Print Out And Keep Morrissey / Smiths London Guide

Jukebox Jury

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The MozTube Tour​

For those of you in London for the Hyde Park gig and are interested in visiting a few London Morrissey / Smiths related sights, here is your 'Print off And Keep' Guide To Morrissey / The Smiths London that I produced in January.

You will need to purchase an off peak Travel Card (commences after 9.30am Monday - Friday and all weekend) and this is valid all day long on both the underground and buses.

If you wish to visit West Ham Boys Club then you will need a zone 1-4 card. If you do not intend going to the Boys Club (which is a little further out of the centre of London than the other sites) then you will only need zone 1-2 card, which is a little cheaper.
If you do intend going to the Boys Club, then see the ’Optional Extra’ at the end of this guide.

The Tour

Start at Euston Station.
Make your own way from wherever you are staying to Euston Station.
*Please note there is also an underground station called ‘Euston’ at the station and another one a short walk away called ‘Euston Square‘.

This is the British Rail main line station connecting London with north London suburbs, the midlands, the north west of England, North Wales and the west coast of Scotland.
The Smiths song ‘London’ includes the line ‘…train heave on to Euston’

To The Grave Maurice
From Euston station walk the short distance to Euston Square underground station and catch the east bound tube to Whitechapel Station on the Hammersmith & City line.
Exit the station and turn right, the pub is in front of you 30 meters away. The pub has now thankfully been renamed TGM after a brief flirtation under the name ‘Q Bar’. The Grave Maurice sign is still hanging from the wall and further up the name remains in the tiles on the building.
Morrissey posed outside the pub on the front and back cover of the single ‘Sunny’ and also on his ‘Under The Influence’ album.

Vallance Street
Carry on past the Grave Maurice and to the first set of lights and turn right onto Vallance Street. The Kray twins lived here in the late 50’s / early 60’s but the houses have all been demolished and rebuilt since then. Morrissey posed underneath the street sign under the railway bridge a few minutes walk down the street, the sign is at the far end of the bridge on the right hand side.
PLEASE NOTE When I visited in January, the street sign was not on the railway bridge:mad:

Tench Street / Reardon Street
Go back to Whitechapel Station and catch the south bound tube on the East London Line to Wapping.
Exit the station and turn left onto Wapping High Street, crossing over and turning right onto Wapping Lane. Take the third left, Green Bank, and the Turks Head pub is on the corner of Tench Street and Green Bank.
Tench Street
The pub, now a community café, appeared boarded up during the video to ’We hate it when our friends become successful’ and also when open at the beginning of the ’Introducing Morrissey’ video.
Reardon Street
Either cut through the park next to the Turks Head diagonally, or walk around the park on Tench Street, turning right at the end of the park and the first road on the left is Reardon Street. On the junction of Tench & Reardon you will see the leaning post.
This post was used by Morrissey and Boz & Co at the end of the video to ’We hate it when….’ and the street sign is shown covered in Morrissey related graffiti. Also a picture of Morrissey at this spot is on the inside sleeve of the ‘Bona Drag’ album . The street sign appeared briefly towards the end of the 60’s classic film ’To Sir With Love’, starring Sidney Poitier, who gets off a bus on Tench Street and turns into Reardon Street passing the road sign.

Sloane Square
Go back to Wapping Station, catch the north bound East London Line back to Whitechapel station. Change here and catch the West bound District Line to Sloane Square. Exit the station and you are at the square.
Sloane Square is name checked in the song ’Hairdresser On Fire’ and as you leave the station, on the row of buildings on your right there is a real hairdressers salon!

Suedehead house - 32 Chester Square.
If you were exiting the station at Sloane Square, turn left out of the station onto Holbein Place and turning first left onto Whittaker Street. Continue up Whittaker Street which then becomes Chester Row and then Chester Square. No 32 is on the left hand side.
This house was used at the beginning of the ‘Suedehead’ video where Morrissey’s nephew hands him a parcel. You will pass the church before reaching the house, the steeple is featured in the background of the video.

Oscar Wilde’s House - 34 Tite Street, Chelsea
Make your way back to Sloane Square and from the station catch the No 11 or 22 bus from the bus stop in front of you, (with the square on your right) travelling down Kings Road. The journey is only a few minutes long, ask the driver to drop you off at the Chelsea cinema which will be on the right. Once off the bus, remain on the same side of the road and go back a little way to the traffic lights at Flood Street and turn right onto Flood Street and take the second left, Redburn Street and first right, Tite Street. Continue along Tite Street on the right hand side, crossing over Royal Hospital Road and continuing along Tite Street until you reach No 34. There should be a plaque commemorating Wilde living there unless someone has pinched it!

Geales Fish Restaurant, 2 Farmer Street
Make your way back to the bus stop on Kings Road, heading back towards Sloane Square. Catch the west bound tube to Notting Hill Gate on either the Circle or District lines, but only the District line heading for Edgware Road.
Exit Notting Hill Gate tube station using the ‘South Side’ direction and ‘Exit A’. Go up the stairs and continue along the footpath in a forward direction. A very short distance away is the Gate Cinema on your left and just before the cinema is the narrow Farmer Street. Go down there and you will see the restaurant on your right as the road opens up.
This is the venue described by Andy Rourke as ‘the place where The Smiths broke up’. The story goes that during a group meeting here, Johnny Marr was seeking a break from band activities though this was interpreted by the others as the end of the road. Morrissey managed to persuade him to carry on and the band recorded a couple of B-sides, before Marr travelled to LA where the break up of the band unfolded in the music press.

Piccadilly Circus
Go back to Notting Hill Gate station and catch the east bound tube to Oxford Circus on the Central Line and then change onto the south bound Bakerloo line for one stop to Piccadilly Circus. Exit the station and the statue of Eros is in front of you as well as the famous big neon sign.
Does the song Piccadilly Palare ring any bells?

The Rock Garden, Covent Garden
Go back to the Piccadilly Circus station and catch the tube to Covent Garden two stops away on the north bound Piccadilly line. Exit the station which is on the corner of Long Acre and James Street. Go down James Street to the end and as you reach The Piazza, The Rock Garden restaurant is on your immediate right on the corner.
The venue for The Smiths first ever London gig. The band played on the floor in the basement as the main acts’ equipment took up the whole stage! If you ask politely, you may be given a brief tour down to the basement - it probably depends on how many people have got there before you that day!

End of the tour!

Optional Extra

West Ham Boys Club - The Black Lion pub, 59 - 61 High Street, Plaistow.
This is a little further out, if you wish to go there and have the extra time. From Euston, follow directions as if going to Whitechapel station for The Grave Maurice, but stay on the tube until you reach Plaistow Station. Exit the station onto Plaistow Road turning right and cross over to the other side of the road. Plaistow Road becomes High Street. Continue along High Street for a few minutes and the pub appears in front of you at the junction of Richmond Street. The club is in the courtyard of the pub situated to the left of the pub and opening times are 6 - 8pm on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday and 10am to noon on Sundays.
Morrissey wore West Ham Boys Club T-shirts during the Oye Esteban tour of 1999.

To pick up the rest of the tour, make your way back to Plaistow station and catch the west bound tube to Whitechapel station on either the District or Hammersmith & City lines and follow directions as described for The Grave Maurice pub from Whitechapel station.

If you do undertake the tour and there are any corrections to be made (as you can see, street signs disappear and pubs change names frequently!) please let me know.
Thanks

Phill Gatenby

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Thanks Phill!! Lori and I are coming down and intend 'doing' the London Moz tour on either the Saturday or the Sunday. This will save us having to carry your precious book with us :p;):)
 
I shall deffo print this out and use. Thanks so much for that. x

Thanks Phill!! Lori and I are coming down and intend 'doing' the London Moz tour on either the Saturday or the Sunday. This will save us having to carry your precious book with us :p;):)

No problem, please post pictures on this thread afterwards!:)

Jukebox Jury
 
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hey jukebox hope you dont mind if i supply some further moz-related intersting areas who are also worth checking out

a bit more on the kray twins AND on further morrissey locartion video shots,lp cover shots

MORE ON KRAY TWINS AREA
if you follow the vallance road down- under the railway bridge you will see on your left
CHESHIRE STREET street
go into that street you will see opposite of the second hand store"beyond retro"(see attachement of chesire street) you will see
the REPTON BOYS CLUB
where linder did take a picture of moz back in 1991 cause the kray twins once worked out there
(the club moved from buxton street to cheshire street a few years ago)

if you follow down the road of CHESHIRE STREET a few meters down further you will see the pub CARPENTERS ARMS which was a businessmeeting place for the krays - they bought this pub in 67.

THE PUB: LION in TAPP STREET was another frequent meeting place (in february 66 there was a shot up with the richardon gang there
you will find it if you follow down cheshire steet and dunbidge street and on the right side you will find tapp street...
google map can help;-)

the shoot out between george orwell (member of the richardson gang) and ronnie kray on march 9th 1966 took place in BLIND BEGGAR PUB which is in 337 WHITECHAPEL Rd,
( London, E1 1BU, UK) near the royal central hospital

what jukebox said i second that:
that the street sign was indeed removed and the place where the krays themself lived on 178 vallance road (but as far as i know) has been demolished/
i couldnt find it..
more on the kray twins on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kray_brothers
ttp://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/kray/up_2.html

SCANDRETT STREET was used for the "FRIENDS SUCESSFUL" video
in WAPPING STREET there is a PUB called the TOWN OF RAMSGATE -this area was part of the film location too
see attachement on the right you can see this little corner PASSAGE which was used as part of a filmscene i AM talking about
you reach scandrett if you are following down the TENCH street
pass the orwell gym
and there you are you see the church on the corner (which ca you can see in the video too)
turn right
And you see the ramsgate pub
if you are going into the passage tight to t the ramsgate there is a little corner which goes straight to the thames and was a part of the video too
next to the turks head pub mentioned by jukebox Town of ramsgate ^might be of interest

morrissey s picture at hoxton market (certian people sleeve) is near the old street tube station

the PLAYBOYS video took place in bermondsey street: nearest tube: London Bridge brunswick court was used for the part of the boy running through the tunnnel
moz lives there with firends according to some biographers and pays tribute by showing some parts of it in the video


clapham common north side as mentioned in mute witness
info on clapham> on wikipedia type in clapham common
also info avaiable
on vauxhall

maybe battersea station is also of interest(bonda drag lp sleeve) but i wasnt there maybe its totally changed now (refurbishment)

also futher places check out the lp covers

and the promo BOXERS lp single(usa single) of boxers took place under the battersea training unit where moz posed and jake shot...

some info on that i found a m moz fanzine but some I searched for myselF

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/2605.aspx[
 
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The MozTube Tour​

For those of you in London for the Hyde Park gig and are interested in visiting a few London Morrissey / Smiths related sights, here is your 'Print off And Keep' Guide To Morrissey / The Smiths London that I produced in January.

You will need to purchase an off peak Travel Card (commences after 9.30am Monday - Friday and all weekend) and this is valid all day long on both the underground and buses.

If you wish to visit West Ham Boys Club then you will need a zone 1-4 card. If you do not intend going to the Boys Club (which is a little further out of the centre of London than the other sites) then you will only need zone 1-2 card, which is a little cheaper.
If you do intend going to the Boys Club, then see the ’Optional Extra’ at the end of this guide.

The Tour

Start at Euston Station.
Make your own way from wherever you are staying to Euston Station.
*Please note there is also an underground station called ‘Euston’ at the station and another one a short walk away called ‘Euston Square‘.

This is the British Rail main line station connecting London with north London suburbs, the midlands, the north west of England, North Wales and the west coast of Scotland.
The Smiths song ‘London’ includes the line ‘…train heave on to Euston’

To The Grave Maurice
From Euston station walk the short distance to Euston Square underground station and catch the east bound tube to Whitechapel Station on the Hammersmith & City line.
Exit the station and turn right, the pub is in front of you 30 meters away. The pub has now thankfully been renamed TGM after a brief flirtation under the name ‘Q Bar’. The Grave Maurice sign is still hanging from the wall and further up the name remains in the tiles on the building.
Morrissey posed outside the pub on the front and back cover of the single ‘Sunny’ and also on his ‘Under The Influence’ album.

Vallance Street
Carry on past the Grave Maurice and to the first set of lights and turn right onto Vallance Street. The Kray twins lived here in the late 50’s / early 60’s but the houses have all been demolished and rebuilt since then. Morrissey posed underneath the street sign under the railway bridge a few minutes walk down the street, the sign is at the far end of the bridge on the right hand side.
PLEASE NOTE When I visited in January, the street sign was not on the railway bridge:mad:

Tench Street / Reardon Street
Go back to Whitechapel Station and catch the south bound tube on the East London Line to Wapping.
Exit the station and turn left onto Wapping High Street, crossing over and turning right onto Wapping Lane. Take the third left, Green Bank, and the Turks Head pub is on the corner of Tench Street and Green Bank.
Tench Street
The pub, now a community café, appeared boarded up during the video to ’We hate it when our friends become successful’ and also when open at the beginning of the ’Introducing Morrissey’ video.
Reardon Street
Either cut through the park next to the Turks Head diagonally, or walk around the park on Tench Street, turning right at the end of the park and the first road on the left is Reardon Street. On the junction of Tench & Reardon you will see the leaning post.
This post was used by Morrissey and Boz & Co at the end of the video to ’We hate it when….’ and the street sign is shown covered in Morrissey related graffiti. Also a picture of Morrissey at this spot is on the inside sleeve of the ‘Bona Drag’ album . The street sign appeared briefly towards the end of the 60’s classic film ’To Sir With Love’, starring Sidney Poitier, who gets off a bus on Tench Street and turns into Reardon Street passing the road sign.

Sloane Square
Go back to Wapping Station, catch the north bound East London Line back to Whitechapel station. Change here and catch the West bound District Line to Sloane Square. Exit the station and you are at the square.
Sloane Square is name checked in the song ’Hairdresser On Fire’ and as you leave the station, on the row of buildings on your right there is a real hairdressers salon!

Suedehead house - 32 Chester Square.
If you were exiting the station at Sloane Square, turn left out of the station onto Holbein Place and turning first left onto Whittaker Street. Continue up Whittaker Street which then becomes Chester Row and then Chester Square. No 32 is on the left hand side.
This house was used at the beginning of the ‘Suedehead’ video where Morrissey’s nephew hands him a parcel. You will pass the church before reaching the house, the steeple is featured in the background of the video.

Oscar Wilde’s House - 34 Tite Street, Chelsea
Make your way back to Sloane Square and from the station catch the No 11 or 22 bus from the bus stop in front of you, (with the square on your right) travelling down Kings Road. The journey is only a few minutes long, ask the driver to drop you off at the Chelsea cinema which will be on the right. Once off the bus, remain on the same side of the road and go back a little way to the traffic lights at Flood Street and turn right onto Flood Street and take the second left, Redburn Street and first right, Tite Street. Continue along Tite Street on the right hand side, crossing over Royal Hospital Road and continuing along Tite Street until you reach No 34. There should be a plaque commemorating Wilde living there unless someone has pinched it!

Geales Fish Restaurant, 2 Farmer Street
Make your way back to the bus stop on Kings Road, heading back towards Sloane Square. Catch the west bound tube to Notting Hill Gate on either the Circle or District lines, but only the District line heading for Edgware Road.
Exit Notting Hill Gate tube station using the ‘South Side’ direction and ‘Exit A’. Go up the stairs and continue along the footpath in a forward direction. A very short distance away is the Gate Cinema on your left and just before the cinema is the narrow Farmer Street. Go down there and you will see the restaurant on your right as the road opens up.
This is the venue described by Andy Rourke as ‘the place where The Smiths broke up’. The story goes that during a group meeting here, Johnny Marr was seeking a break from band activities though this was interpreted by the others as the end of the road. Morrissey managed to persuade him to carry on and the band recorded a couple of B-sides, before Marr travelled to LA where the break up of the band unfolded in the music press.

Piccadilly Circus
Go back to Notting Hill Gate station and catch the east bound tube to Oxford Circus on the Central Line and then change onto the south bound Bakerloo line for one stop to Piccadilly Circus. Exit the station and the statue of Eros is in front of you as well as the famous big neon sign.
Does the song Piccadilly Palare ring any bells?

The Rock Garden, Covent Garden
Go back to the Piccadilly Circus station and catch the tube to Covent Garden two stops away on the north bound Piccadilly line. Exit the station which is on the corner of Long Acre and James Street. Go down James Street to the end and as you reach The Piazza, The Rock Garden restaurant is on your immediate right on the corner.
The venue for The Smiths first ever London gig. The band played on the floor in the basement as the main acts’ equipment took up the whole stage! If you ask politely, you may be given a brief tour down to the basement - it probably depends on how many people have got there before you that day!

End of the tour!

Optional Extra

West Ham Boys Club - The Black Lion pub, 59 - 61 High Street, Plaistow.
This is a little further out, if you wish to go there and have the extra time. From Euston, follow directions as if going to Whitechapel station for The Grave Maurice, but stay on the tube until you reach Plaistow Station. Exit the station onto Plaistow Road turning right and cross over to the other side of the road. Plaistow Road becomes High Street. Continue along High Street for a few minutes and the pub appears in front of you at the junction of Richmond Street. The club is in the courtyard of the pub situated to the left of the pub and opening times are 6 - 8pm on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday and 10am to noon on Sundays.
Morrissey wore West Ham Boys Club T-shirts during the Oye Esteban tour of 1999.

To pick up the rest of the tour, make your way back to Plaistow station and catch the west bound tube to Whitechapel station on either the District or Hammersmith & City lines and follow directions as described for The Grave Maurice pub from Whitechapel station.

If you do undertake the tour and there are any corrections to be made (as you can see, street signs disappear and pubs change names frequently!) please let me know.
Thanks

Phill Gatenby

__________________

good on you guvnor
 
hey jukebox hope you dont mind if i supply some further moz-related intersting areas who are also worth checking out

a bit more on the kray twins AND on further morrissey locartion video shots,lp cover shots

MORE ON KRAY TWINS AREA
if you follow the vallance road down- under the railway bridge you will see on your left
CHESHIRE STREET street go into that street you will see opposite of the second hand store"beyond retro"(see attachement of chesire street) you will see
the REPTON BOYS CLUB
where linder did take a picture of moz back in 1991 cause the kray twins once worked out there
(the club moved from buxton street to cheshire street a few years ago)

if you follow down the road of CHESHIRE STREET a few meters down further you will see the pub CARPENTERS ARMS which was a businessmeeting place for the krays - they bought this pub in 67.

THE LION in TAPP STREET was another frequent meeting place (in february 66 there was ashhot up with the richardon gang there
you will find it if you follow down cheshire steet and dunbidge street and on the right side you will find tapp street...
google map can help;-)

the shoot out between george orwell (member of the richardson gang) and ronnie kray on march 9th 1966 took place in BLIND BEGGAR PUB which is in 337 WHITECHAPEL Rd,
( London, E1 1BU, UK) near the royal central hospital

what jukebox said i second that the street sign was indeed removed and the place where the krays themself lived on 178 vallance road (but as far as i know) has been demolished/
i couldnt find it..
more on the kray twins on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kray_brothers
ttp://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/kray/up_2.html

SCANDRETT STREET wass used for the "FRIENDS SUCESSFUL" video
in WAPPING STREET there is a PUB called the TOWN OF RAMSGATE -this area was part of thefilm locatian too
see attachement on the right you can see this little corner PASSAGE which was used as part of a filmscene i AM talking about
you reach scandrett if you are following down the TENCH street
pass the orwell gym
and there you are you see the church on the corner (which ca you can see in the video too)
turn right
And you see the ramsgate pub
if you are going into the passage tight to t the ramsgate there is a little corner which goes straight to the thames and was a part of the video too

morrissey s picture at hoxton market (certian peole sleeve) is near the old street tube station

thePLAYBOYSvideo took place in bermondsey street: nearest tube: London Bridge brunswick court was used for the part of the boy running through the tunnnel
moz lives there with firends according to some biographers and pays tribute by showing soem parts of it in the video


clapham common north side as mentioned in mute witness
info on clapham> on wikipedia type in clapham common
also info avaiable
on vauxhall

maybe battersea station is also of interest(bonda drag lp sleeve) but i wasnt there maybe its totally changed now (refurbishment)

also futher places check out the lp covers

and the promo BOXERS lp single(usa single) of boxers took place under the battersea training unit where moz posed and jake shot...

some info on that i found a m moz fanzine but some I searched for myselF

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/2605.aspx

Thanks SS
No problem at all in sharing.:)
There's a few there that are in the book (Clapham Comon / Battersea and Bermondsey Street) and a few I didn't know about such as Repton club and Hoxton Market. I'll include them in the next edition!;)

This tour was planed as a day trip - it took me over 4 days to go round each of the 70 odd London places in total, so felt they were the most likely of places wanting to be visited and were all handily placed to get round in a day.

The good thing is it gives those interested the choice to go where they wish too.:guitar:

Jukebox Jury
 
Thanks SS
No problem at all in sharing.:)
There's a few there that are in the book (Clapham Comon / Battersea and Bermondsey Street) and a few I didn't know about such as Repton club and Hoxton Market. I'll include them in the next edition!;)

This tour was planed as a day trip - it took me over 4 days to go round each of the 70 odd London places in total, so felt they were the most likely of places wanting to be visited and were all handily placed to get round in a day.

The good thing is it gives those interested the choice to go where they wish too.:guitar:

Jukebox Jury

alright then anyway... you did a great job;)
but the scandrett/wapping high stree(WHIWOFBS-video)t is just a walk of like 3 minutes from the Tench street so i thought this one is of interest since its not aloof

also cheshire street with repton boys and the 2 kray pubs IS on the left are just as soon as you cross under the bridge...of vallance road... ON THE LEFT... like 30 SECONDS Walk
hey didnt you produce a fanzine once in the eatrly 90 ties about moz?.
.i know you didnt wrote the manchester book but your name sounds familiar nonetheless
 
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alright then anyway... you did a great job;)
but the scandrett/wapping high stree(WHIWOFBS-video)t is just a walk of 5 minutes from the Tench street so i thought this one is of interest since its not aloof

also cheshire street with repton boys and the 2 kray pubs are just as soon as you cross under the bridge...of vallance road...on the left
hey didnt you produce a fanzine once in the eatrly 90 ties about moz?.
.i know you didnt wrote the manchester book but your name sounds familiar nonetheless

I did write ''Morrissey's Manchester'' too:guitar:
In the early 90's I produced a Manchester City fanzine called ''This Charming Fan'' - Smiths and Morrissey titles used for articles, but that's as far as the music theme went.

Jukebox Jury
 
What about Jack the Ripper sites?

Surely, they're worth a mention although there's probably too many to mention.
 
What about Jack the Ripper sites?
there is a guided jack the ripper tour i saw leaflets of it advertising it in th
hostel I was staying
 
Re: Jack the Ripper walking tour

there is a guided jack the ripper tour i saw leaflets of advertising in the hostel I was staying


I went Jack the Ripper walking tour 13 years ago.
It's quite interesting to walk around Commertial Road / Bethnal Green / Brick Lane.
 
i missed it, but next time i visit london I will attend. it..the great thing is that the tour is taking place in the late evening which adds to the "spookyness " :p of it all
 
I also reallllly reccomend grabbing something to eat at The Rock Garden. Every time I go to London I find it essential to get lunch there. Bit pricey but well worth it.
 
Thanks for this. My husband and I will be in London for two weeks in March, and while he's busy with his research I'll be visiting many of these sites.
 
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