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on Sunday December 28 2008, @09:00PM
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Years Of Refusal Review :The Scotsman Johnny'd be good After hearing Morrissey's latest album, David Smyth prays that 'talks' with his old guitarist will result in a Smiths reunion
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Johnny'd ain't on it! (Score:0)
Judge the LP on it's own terms, not on music created with Marr 20 years ago.
Terence Stomp
My Dearest Love (Score:0)
Although also not really 'really' good or original, it has definitly a more emotional touch to it and stays far away from the boring rock songs that mister Tobias has given us the last 3 albums... which i'm getting sick of..
That's how people grow up is horrible song.... All you need is me mediocre... Squeezing funny but like many before that on ROTT...I love Mozzer to death, but God... he needs to pair up with some creative writers/guitar players quick!!!
ROTT was the worst album ever... i pray YoR won't be as bad as that!
New collaborators needed (Score:0)
Nevertheless, it is true that Morrissey seems to have lost it, at least temporarily. Since Southpaw each album has been no more than average at best, and the fact is that Boz, Jesse and, to a lesser degree, Alain (although Alain's tracks tend to be the best ones overall)have offered Morrissey little of interest musically for a long, long time. "Paris" is pleasant but no more, "Grow up" just truly dire. I read a review from 2004 that said that Morrissey's band "dip his grandest endeavours in lead" and I think this is true. There are sparks of a good melody in "Paris", but it never really takes off or goes anywhere. And Jesse just writes Southpaw album filler tracks.
The frustrating thing is that Morrissey could be so much more than he is - he sings beautifully and still is the only person to write lyrics in the style he does. He should collaborate with people like Bernard Butler, Richard Hawley, Maurice Deebank from Felt, Luke Haines, anybody who will shift him from this comfort zone. He should explore new musical styles - he is capable of grand torch songs or simple acoustic laments (a la "Changed my plea" or "i know very well") - hew has overdone the radio rock, it is boring now.
I still think "Vauxhall and I" might well be one of the best albums ever made, but he has regressed since that outstanding moment - and very badly. He is damaging his artistic legacy by refusing to move forward or to change in any way. But, more than anything, he needs co-writers (not Marr) who can deliver the great melodies and memorable tunes he deserves. He should be able to knock the competition out of the window - EASILY - but he is stopping himself from doing so.
No. Nope. Never. Nada. (Score:2, Funny)
Number Two - I will not read/listen to anybody who talks about a Smiths' reunion.
Fini.
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Re:No. Nope. Never. Nada. (Score:2, Insightful)
What I meant by my comments was this....
I'll judge 'Years of Refusal' for myself. I need not listen/read anything to make up my mind. I would much rather make my own mind up.
As for The Smiths reunion. I would much rather put myself in the position of the musicians on this matter. Let's look at the book with a heart, it would be uncomfortable for them.
There is also a matter of age. I don't think I'd like to see Morrissey and Marr perform now they've aged and now the ''special'' moment has gone.
Let old flames remain. Don't blow them out a relight the candle.
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this isn't really an 'early review' (Score:0)
the first proper review has yet to appear...
Coming back? (Score:2, Insightful)
I loved The Smiths to bits, they were great and they made me believe in music. I still love them as I love Morrissey, but I'm also against a reunion. It wouldn't be the same, because two of them wouldn't be in the band. Also, it would be pathetic to fall into another 80s revival band. They were wonderful, don't destroy our loving memory of what they were. If Morrissey and Marr want to play/collaborate together again, that's up to them, but they should come back with a different name, because it would be a different band.
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Re:Coming back? (Score:3, Interesting)
As much as I continue to love the music of The Smiths and older Morrissey songs, I realize that as a person and a singer/songwriter he has evolved and you either take it or leave it. No point in dwelling in the past. He continues to be the only lyricist out there who truly touches or strikes a chord within me. I think ROTT is actually a good album, simply more mature and I think it's a reflection of where he is a man and songwriter.In some mays his lyrics are more insightful than they were before.
it's interesting to me that so many criticize Moz by saying he needs Johnny.In my own little opinion, it seems Johnny would benefit from a collaboration with Moz more than the other way around. It's not anything against Johnny per se, but frankly, I think the best thing Johnny has done post-Smiths was getting together with The The and being a part of Mind Bomb, which is a phenomenal album. Morrissey, think what you may, has done a pretty good job of keeping himself relevant and producing some very good songs throughout the last 20+ years.
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All these problems would be solved (Score:0)
You know you'd all like to hear those melancholic chords rolling behind Morrissey's lovely croon again.
i haven't heard the album... (Score:0)
morrissey isn't as good as he was with the smiths.
another old grumpy man (Score:1, Troll)
well, after all said by morrissey about the smiths reunion (about eat his own balls too
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Why Does It Have To Be A SMITH's Reunion? (Score:1, Interesting)
In no way does it have to be a Smith's thing.
It would be preferable to a Smith's reunion and probably would come out sounding pretty good (can't be worse that Moz working with Tobias and even the present abilities of Boorer).
I'd actually think Moz would be redeeming himself after a lack luster 4 or 5 years since Quarry.
Pining for the past (Score:1, Insightful)
Bad... (Score:1)
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Happy new YOR !!! (Score:1)
or Years Of Refusal
or year
as you want !!
xxx
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Re:Fist! (Score:0)
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"All You Need Is Me"? (Score:0)
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Re:"All You Need Is Me"? (Score:2, Funny)
You may now congratulate me on my good taste.
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Re:"All You Need Is Me"? (Score:2, Interesting)
songs live, Kill Uncle was the first album he
toured the world, it was energetic,the songs
from kill unclearea bit to clean, with a bit power, like he did it live, it would've sound
better, but it had as all rock-a-billy touch,
cause of the , than new recruted, bandmembers
and till today, those 4, + Mike Farrel is the best combinnation, I bet not too many have seen
Spencer live, damnit he was a drum maniac, giving
it all, same as Alain, Boz and Gary bit behind though Boz had his spotlight moments
1991 kill uncle tour, the best till now
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Re:"God bless israel " yet another stupid quote (Score:1)
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Re:Years of Prozac (Score:0, Flamebait)
How Dramatic: "What has happened to Morrissey?" and "This bad review comes as no surprise".
Eric comes across like a fickle school girl with no real opinions.
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Re:Years of Prozac (Score:0, Troll)
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