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davidt
on Monday June 25 2007, @11:00AM
moho sends the link:
Sgt Pepper must die! - The Guardian Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? It's meant to be a classic album, but all you can hear is a load of boring tripe ... we've all felt that way. And so have the musicians we asked to nominate the supposedly great records they'd gladly never hear again ... The Smiths Meat Is Murder Nominated by Jackie McKeown of 1990s I'm a Smiths fan and I like most of their records, but this is the weakest link in the canon. With the debut and The Queen Is Dead, you could cut up Morrissey's lyrics and they could be pages from the same book. For Meat Is Murder, he seemed to make a list of topics to write about. It was a protest album, which defeats the idea of Morrissey as romantic. The cool-guy cover with Meat Is Murder written on his helmet rams it down your throat. The title track is offensive, not least because of the loud, gated drums and 80s production that you get on Huey Lewis and the News records. Morrissey was obviously suffering from a loss of nerve or lack of faith when he wrote these songs. It took him years to write the first album in his bedroom. By the second album, he started panicking and pointing fingers at teachers at school and thinking up things like, "Oh, meat is murder and, oh, we're going to get attacked by thugs in Rusholme." Barbarism Begins at Home is where the Smiths betray their jazz-funk session-guy roots; it's absolutely treacherous to listen to, even if it was brilliant fun to record. You can just see the rolled-up jacket sleeves. It's everything Morrissey hated. Meat Is Murder is Red Wedge music for sexless students. It's like being stuck in a lift with a Manchester University Socialist Workers' Party convention.
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Jack McKeown says <em>Meat is Murder</em> most overrated album of all time
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What a complete.. (Score:1)
(User #15089 Info)
Back then you were probably listening to (Score:0)
Ha, I kinda agree (Score:1)
But please don't lynch me. Just my opinion.
(User #9454 Info)
Everyone's entitled to their inexplicable opinion (Score:1)
(User #15242 Info)
Am I the only one (Score:1)
Follow a link from wikipedia to their myspace site and then fall asleep....No, I wont be rushing out to the shops to buy Rough Trade's latest next big thing.
No fear that musicians in the 2040's will be slagging his work off because no one will be saying in the 2000's that his work is brilliant or life changing.
Sad though I may be but the Smiths changed my life, forever. Because of The Queen is Dead I went to Salford University and because of Meat is Murder I've not eaten Meat for over 20 years, even today I work in Trafford (borough in South Manchester which includes Stretford) everytime I drive in or out of Old Trafford I deliberately drive down Kings Road singing "Under the Iron Bridge We Kissed...."
(User #18005 Info)
Idiots rejoice, your new king has been crowned (Score:1)
Say what you want about Marr's end of the bargain. Aside from How Soon is Now (which doesn't really count) his best work is found elsewhere. Morrissey on the other hand cements his place as one of the greatest lyricist of our time.
It's unusual enough for a songwriter to say something devastatingly true. It is even more rare for them to say it using rhyming alliterations while periodically switching between rhyming structures... and that's just the opening track. Rusholme Ruffians, I Want The One..., That Joke.., Nowhere Fast. These songs are lyrical gems: double meanings, pithy wit, and the ability to be smart without forcing the listener to reach for a thesaurus. This album has it all.
Almost nobody is as good across their career as Morrissey is on this one album.
(User #238 Info)
what can i say... (Score:0)
Jack don't know Jack! He is overrated! (Score:0)
thetexasbloke
Who? (Score:0)
Now known as Jackie McKeown, he is the frontman of a Scottish indie rock new band named 1990s (with Michael McGaughrin, a former drummer in band V-Twin and Jamie McMorrow, a former bass player with The Yummy Fur) and Bull Bill. They were signed to record label Rough Trade in December 2005.
still haven't a clue who this guy is? but i can't wait for the 1990s new album!
Jack McKeown (Score:1)
Meat is Murder is in my opinion the best Smiths album. Even better than The Queen Is Dead (gasp!).
One big reason for this- Nowhere Fast then Well I Wonder- flawless.
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in my opinion... (Score:0)
Rusholme Ruffians...great
I want The One...ok
What She Said...Great
That Joke....amazing
Nowhere Fast....good
Well I Wonder...amazing
Barbarism...ok
Meat Is Murder...ok
7/10...but by no means shite in my opinion
one word (Score:1)
[whose unable to log in via his webbrowser, which he can got to any website, exept this one,
so i have to use a frikkin proxyserver with 3 pop-up windows by every click i make, to read a comment or whatever...on the forums its even worse...i missed the top 100 poll for a week, and
all news on main page]
well that was 72 words, but only one count
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Idiocy (Score:0)
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Nice Try, Kid (Score:1)
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What!!!! (Score:1)
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Jack McKeown....Aged 29!!! (Score:1)
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what? (Score:1)
To me, it is one of the best smiths songs and the best on Meat is Murder along with "rusholme ruffians".
I've always prefered meat is murder to the queen is dead anyway.
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Jackie McKeown (Score:1)
When your band (let alone your albums) are remembered in 20+ years time, then you can tell Morrissey he betrayed his ideology. To my mind (and ears) Meat Is Murder is EVERYTHING The Smiths were about.
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MIM is the best Smiths album (Score:1)
MIM is thematically the most complete Smiths album, with recurring images of cruelty and violence: by teachers on children, teenagers on each other, parents on children, humans on animals. the album title, besides being braver than 'never mind the bollocks', is more evocative (i think) than just a vegetarian slogan; it hints at the violence implicit in sexual desire, and how such undercurrents lurk in families, schools, romance - wherever humans hold power. the fact that it ends with meat is no mere add-on to the album, it's the conclusion of what's gone before. i also think marr's music on the title song is among his most beautiful.
sorry, i'll shut up. MIM contains "well i wonder" and the line: 'and though i walk home alone, my faith in love is still devout'. that's all i needed to say.
i reckon if MIM was the last thing the Smiths or Morrissey had ever done, we would still be here discussing it.
silly me i rose to the bait of some publicity-seeking fool. oh dear i've forgotten his name - i really have, i'm getting old
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It's a good album (Score:0)
It's a good album and i can't see the point some guy critizizing it now.
(User #14586 Info)
What a cock (Score:0)
What did this bloke want , every album to sound as exactly as the one previously? and with regard to a protest album , the only track i can think of is 'meat' and rightly so.
Thats all the attention this twat is going to get from me.
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Meat is Mashuga (Score:0)
Quinn
Opinion (Score:0)
the harsh truth (Score:0)
not saying its bad, but in a fire it would be the last to be saved
love-
headmasters,rusholme ruffians,that joke isn't
like - what she said
i want the 1 the 1
nowhere fast
are ok,fine,not bad
and pass on the last 2
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Rushholme McKeown (Score:1)
Yeah there's cow meat involved but songs like like Rushholme and Barbarism Begins at Home made you feel like " you were the meat or quarry."
For it's time and considering that the period when it was recorded ( during the 80's) it's still brilliant compare to what other artist was putting out visually and lyrically.
McKeown, I don't think you have any imagination or take things too literally. You just don't get it.
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In my opinion (Score:0)
Not a Morrissey Impersonator (Score:1)
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jack who? (Score:1)
cant believe this made the news page.
if the Sun newspaper appeared here everytime they slagged off Mozz it would be here 3 times a fortnite.
its a bit like me when i slate the beatles. i know im up against it so i just keep schtum! so i guess thats wot this jackshit bloke should do.
sorry bout the dreadful english today, im tired and in pain.
ah sod it, i cant stand paul moancartney....ha said it.
im rambling im off 2 bed..............
(User #1028 Info)
Learn to take a bit of criticism (Score:0)
Even if someone has an opinion I disagree with, I tend to respect their view as everyone is different. In this case, however, I completely agree with the man in question. It's a horribly overrated album. Don't get me wrong, I do think three songs on it are wonderful, but who are you to call this lovely man a cunt? Or say that his opinion isn't valid as you don't know who he is? By your logic, I shouldn't take what you have to say onboard as I don't know who any of you are. Surely, we're all allowed opinions here for which we won't be slated as we're all Smiths fans. If someone who hated the Smiths or someone who'd never actually listened to them before decided to publicly bash them, of course they aren't as entitled to say that as they're obviously saying it for the sake of saying it. In THIS article, it is clearly stated at the start that Mr McKeown is in fact a Smiths fan, therefore, has the right to criticise.
As for these people who refuse to deal with the fact that Mr McKeown has said he doesn't like one album, I'm sure many of you, although perhaps unwilling to admit it, have thought that Morrissey's solo album, Kill Uncle was absolute gash.
Please do me a favour and go outside, it's lovely out there and you might learn how the real world works. Not everything that someone you love does is amazing, but that's the way things go and we have to move on and accept it. It'd be boring if everything was flawless.