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davidt
on Sunday August 07 2005, @12:00PM
Naomi writes:
Today's Observer (the Sunday edition of The Guardian) carries a story
on Sanctuary's current financial difficulties (full report: Heaven knows British music bastion is miserable now). This much we're already aware of, but the first paragraph of the report is pretty interesting:
There's a big announcement in the offing from Morrissey, according to sources at Sanctuary Group, his record label. But even if the glum rocker's next album sells millions, there are likely to be some long faces in the Sanctuary boardroom. Heaven knows they must be miserable now - and it's got nothing to do with the former Smiths frontman.
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"Big announcement in the offing from Morrissey according to sources at Sanctuary" - The Observer
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Please... (Score:0)
ouch! (Score:0)
Is our hero such a specimen?!!!
and the announcement is... (Score:1)
(User #9259 Info)
You can love me now ... (THIS may be the big news) (Score:3, Interesting)
[url]http://libertalia.us/news.htm[/url]
dneuer
Happenings (Score:0)
poor moz... (Score:0)
Re:poor moz... (Score:2, Insightful)
(User #9259 Info)
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"New Album" (Score:2, Funny)
No, it can't be true! Just wait, in 2 weeks Morrissey will send a 'manifesto' to www.passionsjustlikemine.com stating:
"I have fired Boz Boorer, Alain Whyte, Mikey v Farrell, Deano Butterworth and Gary Day and I am hiring Dr. Demetrius and James Young to take over all musical direction and management. Can you guess who I am? My Sanctuary is Dead."
(User #20 Info)
So, what's the bid news? (Score:0)
thetexasbloke
Heaven Knows Headlines Like This Are Shite Now (Score:2, Funny)
They really sap my will to live.
-Ben G
Re:Heaven Knows Headlines Like This Are Shite Now (Score:2, Insightful)
Also, any reference to This Charming Man should also be outlawed when coming up with headlines for Morrissey interviews.
If, when a new album surfaces, a magazine runs the headline 'Heaven Knows He's A Charming Man Now', we shouid go and arson their offices. God forbid Morrissey should ever get a short hair cut before an interview ('Heaven Knows He's A Charming Suedehead Now') or murder a number of filthy East End prostitutes before meeting the journalist ('Heaven Knows He's A Charming Jack The Ripper Suedehead Now')
Furthermore, it would be a good idea to ban journalists from using the full 'Steven Patrick Morrissey' name within the first two paragraphs of their piece, as if it's some sort of mad exclusive that only they knew about.
(User #9752 Info | http://www.stanleymchale.merseyblogs.co.uk/)
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It doesn't make much sense! (Score:0)
Ok, so Morrissey is making an announcement, Sanctuary are going to be "miserable" (but not because of the announcement). HUH?!
Re:It doesn't make much sense! (Score:2, Informative)
(User #9259 Info)
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I can't be to announce his retirement.... (Score:2, Interesting)
I wonder if this links to the recent news that Moz is collaborating with an 80's band...... but then Sanctuary would only be happy if that was a 'sales-machine' band like U2.
A Moz album on it's own is not going to solve Sanctuaries financial problems.
I wonder what the announcement is..... I can't figure it out.
(User #3416 Info)
Since when.... (Score:0)
With the quality of work he's been putting out these last few efforts, a similar release is to be expected, not hailed.
The news won't be "big" until he's replaced his lineup, preferably with you-know-who.
since always... (Score:2, Funny)
they didnt say an "earth shattering world altering" announcement to suggest something like "Morrissey has cured cancer" or "Morrissey has made contact with extra-terrestrial life". they said a "big" announcement, and from the perspective of the label, Sanctuary, the announcement of an upcoming new studio album release from their biggest star is indeed a "big" announcement.
(User #9259 Info)
Re:ET & close encounters! (Score:2, Interesting)
Besides, that time was marked by a surge of popular interest in the possibility of space visitors which made a strong impression on a lot of people. I also understand that Dan Browne's recent phenomenally successful "The Da Vinci Code" is now being legally challenged for over-zealously borrowing from a book written back then, mentioned here:
"The term 'ancient astronauts' designates the speculative notion that aliens are responsible for the most ancient civilizations on earth. The most notorious proponent of this idea is Erich von Däniken, author of several popular books on the subject. His "Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past" [mid-'70's?], for example, is a sweeping attack on the memories and abilities of ancient peoples. Von Däniken claims that the myths, arts, social organizations, etc., of ancient cultures were introduced by astronauts from another world. He questions not just the capacity for memory, but the capacity for culture and civilization itself, in ancient peoples. Prehistoric humans did not develop their own arts and technologies, but rather were taught art and science by visitors from outer space.
Where is the proof for von Däniken's claims? Some of it was fraudulent. For example, he produced photographs of pottery that he claimed had been found in an archaeological dig. The pottery depicts flying saucers and was said to have been dated from Biblical times. However, investigators from Nova (the fine public-television science program) found the potter who had made the allegedly ancient pots. They confronted von Däniken with evidence of his fraud. His reply was that his deception was justified because some people would only believe if they saw proof ("The Case of the Ancient Astronauts," first aired 3/8/78, done in conjunction with BBC's Horizon and Peter Spry-Leverton)! "
(User #12673 Info)
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Re:since always... (Score:2, Funny)
It's already happened. He opened for Bowie, remember?
(just kidding, I love Bowie)
(User #11848 Info)
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Quarry was his "Swan song" - Like it or Lump it! (Score:0)
Quarry NOT Morrissey's swansong (Score:0)
Morrissey has already said there WILL be a new record. He told Stuart Maconie. Now, he might have been referring to 'Earl's Court', but we know he wasn't, and for several reasons:
Firstly, because AFTER the release of Earl's Court, Morrissey made his anti-Sanctuary statement saying that, in terms of the NEW ALBUM, he was not "under pressure" and that everything was "at hand".
Secondly, Deano said he's been offered the opportunity to co-write.
Thirdly, Boz said tracks were ready for Morrissey when he required them.
Fourthly, Alain Whyte has postponed the Red Lightning tour to work on the next record - see above.
What more evidence do you need?
That said, I REALLY hope this isn't just going to be Quarry redux. Quarry was a mediocre effort, and I agree with the poster who said that it's probably gonna be the same old same old given that the line up hasn't changed. Since he evidently won't call Johnny Marr, or even consider new collaborators, the least we can hope for is a)a new producer and b)Boz and Alain to return to the standards of the ever-wonderful Vauxhall. Boz needs to write a new 'Jack The Ripper' and Alain needs to write a new 'Why Don't You Find Out?' or 'Seasick'. Otherwise this new record will be another letdown, I fear, for me anyway.
J Marr (Score:0)
"When they've all said their piece/
It's still you I love"
"Big announcement" (Score:0)
This will turn out to be - new signing with Sanctuary - new album. Boz Boorer/Alain Whyte co-write. Jerry Finn produces. Very little progression. I'll lay money on it.
The Cure? (Score:1)
Can anyone please explain the 'rights issue' in this context? I think indirectly the article hints at Sanctuary's main failings and what they need to do to get their act together.
Matthew Knowles, acting kinda 'crazy right now', has to be gently led away to a smaller office and budget.
PR has to be restored with the rock-writers by drawing up clear detailed contracts and, most importantly, a active commitment demonstrated by Sanctuary that they know what words like honesty, respect and integrity mean. (Many spew these out without checking their dictionaries).
And, where their big stars like Morrissey are concerned, they need to recognise their own double-standard portrayel of reaching out the redemptive hand while at the same time exploiting the renown, image and reputation of trusting genuine artists, and building minimum opaque non-communicative working relationships, to keep themselves afloat. Morrissey's imminent announcement is, as far as I can gather, an irrelevant but attention-grabbing hook for the article; he's on to their tricks and will make his announcements independently.
Their lazy professional attitude must be overhauled if they are to achieve an attractive sustainable market niche with mature tried-and-tested artists, and they've no time to waste.
(User #12673 Info)
It's boxing of course! (Score:0)
Jake (Score:0)
For The Life Of Me (Score:4, Insightful)
One last thing, I have been coming here for quite a few years since the time that all of us knew each other by our real names and I am glad David has kept this site alive for the fans, but you must please remember we are here because we are fans...no matter when you started listening,how old you are, how many records/cd's/bootlegs you have, or even how many shows you have been to. Remember the only thing that is truly important is that after all this man has given us we support him and wish him the best in whatever he does...
(User #14525 Info)
Maybe (Score:1)
(User #8448 Info)
He has (Score:0)
this September.
it's an extension (Score:0)
Ban on pointless Johnny Marr rumours (Score:1)
I don't think it will ever happen but there is a very tiny bit of hope but all of these messages with Johnny Marr rumours are never believable.
It's been said so many times that it has now become the equivalent of spam.
Until Morrissey, Johnny Marr or someone with legitimate access to such knowledge makes a statement, please stop turning your personal wishes into rumours.
(User #8415 Info)
but the point of the article... (Score:0)
Oh, and Beyonce sucks.
Re:Marr is back (Score:0)
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Re:Marr is back (Score:0)
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Re:Marr is back (Score:0)
IF ONLY!!!!!!!!
Hardly configures with the more believable announcement that Alain Whyte has been called to Rome to begin work on the follow up to YATQ.
I wish it was true that Marr was back - but it won't be!
It did occur to me that Johnny could, theoretically, contribute a track or two to the next record, but since the J Marr tracks would obviously be the runaway standouts of the record, I can't see the point!
No, I fear we have some more 'America' and 'You Know I Couldn't Last's waiting for us. And that is not a good thing.
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Re:Marr is back (Score:0)
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Re:Marr is back (Score:1)
Haven't you people got it already?
Morrissey won't co-write with Marr again.
(User #12253 Info)
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Re:Open message to Boz and Alain (Score:1)
If you anonymouses who appear to be only one individual going on about the same thing or a couple of persons that hate his recent material so much, please spare us of the pain of reading your comments again and again and again.
Go listen to J. Marr if he's such a god and leave Morrissey for those who can truly appreciate his Art, from Viva Hate to You Are the Quarry.
There is nothing mediocre or banal in Morrissey's music, absolutely nought.
(User #12253 Info)
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Re:I keep telling you and have been since 04 (Score:0)
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Re:I keep telling you and have been since 04 (Score:0)
I predict Morrissey will release another single!
there you go, how's that for a prediction?!
Lionel
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