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posted by
davidt
on Monday April 11 2005, @09:00AM
earnest writes:
On the german website laut.de there is an interview with New Order and they were questioned about the "Manchester-legend Morrissey". They talked about meeting him in 2002 on an airport and Morrissey endlessly moaning about having no record deal. They further consider the actual album a great thing and love the title of the DVD. For that, one should send him some cocaine - if he didn't have already something for that occasion, they further explain. They also describe him as a "bastard" and mention that everybody in Manchester hates him. Here is the link for our German speaking fans: "Man sollte Morrissey dringend Koks schicken!" - laut.de
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oh please... (Score:1)
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Re:oh please... (Score:2, Informative)
Eine andere Manchester-Legende, die gerade wieder immensen Erfolg genießt, ist Morrissey.
[Q: another legend of Manchester, who has again an immense success, is Morrissey]
Hook: Well, er war aber nie wirklich weg, oder?
[well, he hasn`t been away all the time, hasn`t he?]
Morris: Wir trafen Morrissey mal am Flughafen in Dublin, nachdem wir diesen Gig mit den Chili Peppers gespielt hatten (im Sommer 2002, Anm. d. Red.). Wir warteten gerade auf den Flug nach Manchester und Gillian unterhielt sich aufgeregt mit ihm, schließlich ist sie ja ein großer Morrissey-Fan. Naja, und er jammerte ihr die ganze Zeit vor, dass er keinen Plattenvertrag bekäme, dass ihn niemand leiden könne usw.
[We met Morrissey once at the airport in Dublin, after playing with Red Hot Chilis (summer 2002). We have been waiting for the flight to Manchester and Gillian was talking nervous with him, as she is a great Morrissey-fan. Well, he moant all the time about having no record deal and that nobody loves him and so on]
Hook: Sagte sie ihm, dass dies daran liege, dass er ein Trottel ist? (lacht)
[Did she say to him, that this is due to the fact that he is a twat? (laughing)]
Morris: Wer weiß ... er stand jedenfalls da wie ein begossener Pudel. Armer Morrissey, niemand will dir einen Plattenvertrag geben. (lacht) Na jedenfalls war ich nicht zuletzt aufgrund dieser Geschichte schon ein klein wenig überrascht, als uns Morrissey dann kürzlich wieder erschien, um den ihm zustehenden Platz als König des Universums einzunehmen.
[Who knows.... he stood there like a wet poodle. Poor Morrissey, nobody wants to give you a record deal (laughing). Anyway I was a bit surprised, as M. apeared again, in order to take again his position as King of the Universe]
Hook: Sein Album ist wirklich gut und die Single ist großartig. Was er aber wirklich drauf hat, ist die unverschämte Art und Weise, mit der er es den Leuten in Manchester immer wieder reindrückt. Denn jeder einzelne Mensch in Manchester hasst Morrissey nunmal wie die Pest. Niemand hat dort ein gutes Wort für ihn übrig, denn jeder hatte eben schonmal irgendwie mit ihm zu tun, und Morrissey ist halt einfach ein ziemlicher Bastard. Aber ich liebe den Titel seiner neuen DVD ...
[His album is really good and the single is excellent. What he really knows, is the insolent manner how he deals with people from Manchester. See, everybody in Manchester hates his guts, because everybody already had to do with him in the past. Nobody talks good about him and M. simply is a kind of bastard. But I love the title of his new DVD]
Morris: Oh ja!
Hook: Der Titel ist "Who Put The 'M' in Manchester"! Was für ein verdammter Drecksack! Wenn er da nicht schon Koks intus hatte, sollte man ihm für diese Aktion dringend etwas vorbei schicken. Fuckin' great! Er musste sich eine Zeit lang ja wirklich buchstäblich von jedem Einwohner fernhalten. Immer wenn er in Manchester oder irgendwo in der Gegend auftritt, checkt er höchstpersönlich die Gästeliste, um sicher zu gehen, dass ja niemandem Eintritt gewährt wird, er ihm dumm kommen könnte.
[the title...what a louse, (dirtbag or whatever)! If he didn't have any cocaine by that occassion (finding the title) one should send him urgently some. fuckin great! He did have to avoid being in M. Always when he is in M., he always checks the guest lists, to be sure that nobody is there who bothers him]
Klingt wichtig.
[q:sounds important]
Hook: Und ob! Aber so ist das eben. Morrissey ist kein netter Zeitgenosse. Er ist einfach kein netter Mensch. Daran besteht nun wirklich kein Zweifel.
in deed! But that's the way it is. M. is not a nice fellow. He simply is not a nice person. There is absolutely no doubt about that]
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Funny Interview (Score:0)
I think I've heard this one before...
New Order ???? (Score:0)
Signed,
Someone Who Cares
Bastard Moz? (Score:0)
well i didn't like new order before, so what.
zweikiesel
If "everyone" in Manchester hates him.. (Score:0)
Or do they mean all the "important" people in Manchester hate him? Probably a good thing.
Eh? (Score:1)
I know that this Site is often desperate for some Sensible material, but this is well beyond a joke.
I'm telling you, the Press will get somebody Murdered one of these days.
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Like fucking New Order... (Score:0, Redundant)
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several things (Score:1)
2. when in was younger, i thought about getting the design from new order's "movement" cover tattooed on my arm. i'm now very glad that i got some sense back and got my morrissey tattoo instead.
3. i now feel better about not having bought those nyc new order tickets for $60 a piece, even though they have always been dear to me. i figure i can put that money towards seeing the "ever hated" morrissey next time he comes around, god willing.
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New Order are the Best Band in History (Score:0)
Well, guess who (Score:0)
No, not Charles and Camilla. Try again.
Of course, why do I bother, no one on this site will be interested, as usual...
(Barney's not Chloe, is he little Morrissey fans?) *snigger*
So . . . (Score:1)
They seem somewhat worse to me.
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Bastard, eh? (Score:1)
term of endearment, especially
if your south of the Mason/Dixon line?
No, I guess not.
Poor Morrissey. No prophet is
accepted in his hometown, is he?
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The Truth by Strawberry (Score:0)
I provided information on this German Internet publication, for all users here, on the message board on April 7th under the title 'Germany Calling - Translators Required for New Order Interview. Some Morrissey' And for anyone interested in that, Tingle then came back with some excellent translations which were very much appreciated ! Anyhow, back to the story
"They also describe him as a "bastard" and mention that everybody in Manchester hates him. "
I have to put this on record that this is complete rubbish. Even on Hooky's dark days (and there have been many) he wouldn't come out with comments like these in the press or in private. No longer under the influence of drink, Hooky has always been New Orders most outspoken member but he couples this with a great soul, rythym and consistantly fantastic guitar performances.
In response to the rumours posted afterwards:
JP5.22 " 1. what's with this coccaine business? someone i know told me they were convinced morrissey was bumping coke in the men's room of the cat and the fiddle when they saw him there a few months back, now there's an allusion to the same in this interview. granted we've all done our share of partying, but for some reason i just can't picture moz being into it. i wonder how true this is, but would hope the rumor mills don't start up. the man deserves more privacy than we allow him, especially in that regard."
The answer is that these comments are completely untrue. At the above pub, at any pub, anywhere, at any time. This is completely wrong, totally unfair and absolutely untrue.
Q: mick ransommich
"'Cocaine'?....'Bastard'?... 'Everybody in Manchester hates him'? I know that this Site is often desperate for some Sensible material, but this is well beyond a joke. I'm telling you, the Press will get somebody Murdered one of these days. "
- Despite not being everyone's cup of tea, both Morrissey and New Order continue to be the inspiration for a whole host of UK bands. The music world would be in a very sorry state without them and this is not a battle between New Order and Morrissey.
I urge all Morrissey fans to click away and not to get involved in this post. There are better things to write about here - the latest DVD and the live DVD - or at MorrisseyMusic.
Strawberry
That's Moz (Score:2, Insightful)
Let's face it, people (celebrities) who are used to getting things their way, can't stand it when they don't. I'm not saying Moz isn't the same way, but these stories we hear tend to sound bogus. They met Morrissey at an airport and he moaned about not having a record deal and nobody loving him? Either these guys are making this stuff up, or Moz just didn't feel like making small talk. That's what alot of these musicians want from each other, just like people in our everyday lives. You clones know how it goes: at work, at the market; bored people make some kind of generic comment, then you comment back even though you may just want to be left alone, you don't want to be rude.
That's a quality Moz just doesn't have. Fans are different. He'll take the time out to say hello back. But if he doesn't feel like talking to you, he won't. And why the hell should he? He's freaking Morrissey! If you aren't kissing this man's ASS when you meet him, then you probably shouldn't even be talking to him. Even if you do, it's no guarantee that he'll welcome you. Just ask Boy George.
Don't worry about what these clowns from New Order say. Don't get me wrong, I dug Joy Division. But I haven't met anyone who is a hardcore fan of New Order. Most people I know just listen casually....or....will go to their concerts to remind themselves of the 80's. Moz still makes quality music...they don't. If the best insult they have for Moz is 'twat', they have a long way to go. C'mon New Order, you're better than that. Then again, they never were known for their lyrics.
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Re:That's Moz (Score:2, Funny)
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Andy Rourke (Score:0)
Just something to bear in mind if you're wondering how objective he is.
Before anyone judges N.O. too harshly... (Score:0)
Lads Club (Score:0)
He's also said in interviews that Morrissey is jealous of Ian Curtis and wants to commit suicide like him in order to become more of a legend.
Of course some of you will believe every word he says because you want to.
New Order vs. Morrissey? Why choose? (Score:1)
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Snowblind (Score:2, Insightful)
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Bigmouth Johnny Strikes Again... (Score:1)
Which is sad to think.
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Northern Bastard !! (Score:0)
New Order are the most over-rated band (Score:0)
Their most famous song, Blue Mondays, is a horribly dated slice of naff, eighties synth-pop; the indie-equivalent of Aga Doo.
Bernie Summer is without doubt the worst lyricist of all time. Marr wrote some truly inspiraitonal pieces of music for Electric but every one of them was let down by unbelievably dim-witted lyrics and a p*** poor vocal delivery.
Thank the lord their current comeback is falling on its ar*e.
The ‘c(cocaine?)’ word! (Score:1, Funny)
A 7 year old and a 4 year old are upstairs in their bedroom. "You know what?" says the 7 year old, "I think it's about time we start swearing."
The 4 year old nods his head in approval.
"When we go downstairs for breakfast I'm gonna swear first, then you swear after me, ok?"
"Ok" the 4 year old agrees with enthusiasm.
The mother walks into the kitchen and asks the 7 year old what he wants for breakfast.
"Oh, shit mum, I guess I'll have some Coco Pops."
WHACK!! He flew out of his chair, tumbled across the kitchen floor, got up, and ran upstairs crying his eyes out.
She looked at the 4 year old and asked with a stern voice, "And what do YOU want for breakfast, young man?!"
"I don't know," he blubbers, "but you can bet your fuckin' ass it won't be Coco Pops."
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New Order and Morrissey (Score:0)
Firstly, although we're all Morrissey fans, this is far from the first time we've heard that he is somewhat of a primadonna. I like his music as much as the next guy, but I'm guessing there is at least some basis behind all the comments, considering the range of people that share this opinion. Not to mention that the man himself occasionally comes off as somewhat egotistic and childish in his own interviews.
Secondly, this is NEW ORDER. They, along with The Smiths were the biggest band in Manchester in '80s. I'm sure they've crossed paths with Morrissey more times than they care to remember. Bernard has known Johnny since 1982, and I recall reading that all of the Smiths have enjoyed nights and the Hacienda (the club New Order used to own), both partying and performing. I think you can all assume at least this much: they know Morrissey far better than you do.
And lastly, for the people knocking New Order as musicians, why be so petty? Peter Hook paid Morrissey a great compliment about his album (when - let's face it - Morrissey has been nothing but nasty about their work and most would say unjustifiably so) and according to Stephen Morris, Gillian Gilbert (his wife and a former New Order member) is a big fan, just like you.
New Order will ALWAYS be #3 in my book.... (Score:1)
My top three albums of all time...
1. Queen Is Dead - The Smiths
2. Disintegration - The Cure
3. Substance - New Order
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New Order (Hook) also is trashing The Cure (Score:1)
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Talking about Curiosa, New Order ask if The Cure had mentioned them as an inspiration, because "these bastards" [Cure] copied them [N-O] from head to toe as N-O member Hook states.
"I doubt that The Cure had an influence on the Curiosa band selection. I imagine them [Cure] saying [impersonating Robert I guess]
Ohhh yeah? Are they any good? No, haven´t heard of them. New Order? Yes, they are good."
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New order German (Score:0)