heheh uh oh, you think we have frightened everyone? :D

sales of condoms will soar!

Seriously. Trojan should get rid of those Trojan Man commercials and replace them with documentary-style footage of women in, uh, stitches. :D

That came out awkwardly, but you know what I mean.

yes it was a typo... but I may as well have spliced it and meant it the way you read what I write. either way it is misunderstood... and being misunderstood by a working class republican is really nothing that I am going to worry about anytime soon.

Hoo, boy... what, one grave wasn't enough for you? Going to dig another?

I'm gonna go make some popcorn, anyone want some? :cool:

Seriously. Trojan should get rid of those Trojan Man commercials and replace them with documentary-style footage of women in, uh, stitches. :D

ha ha yup! no one would be getting any action anytime soon. :p

I'm gonna go make some popcorn, anyone want some? :cool:

I think we're kinda past that point. This is more like it:

http://www.sonicclean.com/photo1.gif

Hoo, boy... what, one grave wasn't enough for you? Going to dig another?

I'm gonna go make some popcorn, anyone want some? :cool:

yes, get your joy and excitement anyway you can pregs...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m204/SuperwormJim/smiley/popcorn.gif

well, NRitH... I never understood working class republicans because they seem to vote for economic policies that benefit the upper class - and oftentimes they are quite bullish in their attack on liberals even though the liberal policies would often benefit them... but instead they vote for policies that benefit people way above their own tax bracket... like being bullishly against themselves. I just never got that... I guess that makes me crazy... which is fine with me.

Liberal economic policies do not assist my long term financial growth.
Liberal immigration policies do not assist my long term financial growth.
Liberal foreign polices do not assist my safety nor financial growth.

Need I go on?

Suparni you are officially batshit crazy to me. It is as if you suddenly stopped taking your meds for a few days or something. There are a few others as well as myself that imagine you sitting on the corner of your bed crying for hours on end over perceived suffering, hardships and unfairness that you have or may have or some group of people have endured.

Your lifevest is on the way. We cannot have you drown in the river of tears you cry yourself. For some reason I assume that you are not on the South Shore of Nassau County... so should I call the 2nd, 3rd or 6th Precinct so they can safeguard your well being before you do something drastic?

Can't we steer this thread back to something that we can all agree on, like moderator-bashing?

Sorry, Karin. :D

Can't we steer this thread back to something that we can all agree on, like moderator-bashing?

Sorry, Karin. :D

I don't know what you mean... I look at a certain mod and all I can think of is unrequited love.

Can't we steer this thread back to something that we can all agree on, like moderator-bashing?

Sorry, Karin. :D
:eek:what age are you? :rolleyes::p


I don't know what you mean... I look at a certain mod and all I can think of is unrequited love.

well of course that would be me!

hey vicar i think the news blows the too many c secs out of proportion. for instance the hospital i work at, no doc wants to cut women open. but some terrible things happen when people attempt a VBAC, and a lot of obstetricians don't want to risk a life unneccessarily. First time c sections are usually because the stuff aint going down the tube right, and a lot of second c sections are women that dont want to risk hemmorhaging.

birth in general is pretty risky. I know some women want us to think of it as natural and earthy, but the sad truth is our newborn mortality rate would be sky high if it werent for hospitals and treating it like a 'problem', so to speak. Hospitals arent perfect but its very soothing to me to think that i can have my baby at the hospital naturally, but if bad stuff happens and shit hits the fan, there's an OR room with my name on it waiting for me to save my baby and myself!

the majority of c sections arent britney spears 'i want my vajayjay intact' scheduled LA fun time, thank goodness.

:eek:what age are you? :rolleyes::p

Old enough to know better, but I'm a goal-oriented person. :D

hey vicar i think the news blows the too many c secs out of proportion. for instance the hospital i work at, no doc wants to cut women open. but some terrible things happen when people attempt a VBAC, and a lot of obstetricians don't want to risk a life unneccessarily. First time c sections are usually because the stuff aint going down the tube right, and a lot of second c sections are women that dont want to risk hemmorhaging.

birth in general is pretty risky. I know some women want us to think of it as natural and earthy, but the sad truth is our newborn mortality rate would be sky high if it werent for hospitals and treating it like a 'problem', so to speak. Hospitals arent perfect but its very soothing to me to think that i can have my baby at the hospital naturally, but if bad stuff happens and shit hits the fan, there's an OR room with my name on it waiting for me to save my baby and myself!

oh don't get me wrong, I am all for it if its needed.

birth in general is pretty risky. I know some women want us to think of it as natural and earthy, but the sad truth is our newborn mortality rate would be sky high if it werent for hospitals and treating it like a 'problem', so to speak. Hospitals arent perfect but its very soothing to me to think that i can have my baby at the hospital naturally, but if bad stuff happens and shit hits the fan, there's an OR room with my name on it waiting for me to save my baby and myself!

When folks refer to "natural childbirth" here, do they mean "vaginal," or "drug-free"?

oh don't get me wrong, I am all for it if its needed.

from what i see at work they dont do it for vagina saving selfishness, hee hee. but i dont work at cedars sinai in LA, who knows what goes on there.

in the docs opinion, naturals best because cutting people open unnecessarily opens a person up to a systemic infection. yuck.


NRiTH i mean naturally through the vag not drug free

When folks refer to "natural childbirth" here, do they mean "vaginal," or "drug-free"?

Drug-free childbirth?...what the f**K is that?! ;)

Love Alma xxx

When folks refer to "natural childbirth" here, do they mean "vaginal," or "drug-free"?

here (uk) I would say vaginal, I had pethadine a couple of hours before Dylan was born and Gas and air towards the end, then the last hour nothing, just a big bossy midwife telling me to get on with it. (she was fantastic)

Drug-free childbirth?...what the f**K is that?! ;)

Love Alma xxx

here (uk) I would say vaginal, I had pethadine a couple of hours before Dylan was born and Gas and air towards the end, then the last hour nothing, just a big bossy midwife telling me to get on with it. (she was fantastic)

as the person who made this thread i am issuing a cease and desist (sp?) on drugs and childbirth! I do not want new debates thank you!

as the person who made this thread i am issuing a cease and desist (sp?) on drugs and childbirth! I do not want new debates thank you!

I wasn't trying to start a new debate; I was just curious.

Suparni you are officially batshit crazy to me. It is as if you suddenly stopped taking your meds for a few days or something. There are a few others as well as myself that imagine you sitting on the corner of your bed crying for hours on end over perceived suffering, hardships and unfairness that you have or may have or some group of people have endured.

Your lifevest is on the way. We cannot have you drown in the river of tears you cry yourself. For some reason I assume that you are not on the South Shore of Nassau County... so should I call the 2nd, 3rd or 6th Precinct so they can safeguard your well being before you do something drastic?

First of all "suddenly stopped taking your meds?" - You have always been an asshole to me so what is the sudden bit... I don't like you or find you amusing and I am tired of your nasty input and attitude toward me so yes, I tell you how I feel about you flat out... finally - and no, I don't care how it looks to you.

Secondly, if you really think I am batshit crazy and imagine me crying on the edge of my bed all day, then why would you continue to be nasty calling me a nut... it doesn't seem very compassionate behavior towards a person whom you genuinely consider unbalanced.

Third, I wouldn't worry about me being locked up crying on the edge of the bed or anything of the sort, you will be happy to know that is not at all the case for me.

i haven't been around here quite as much lately, in fact this is the most I have contributed in a while... seems it's better for most people that way - including myself... So I trust the negativity coming from without and admittedly from myself - seems I don't much like or want to be around here - and i doubt any of you will object. okay? happy? voila.

I wasn't trying to start a new debate; I was just curious.

i should have said 'vaginal' childbirth, my bad!

When folks refer to "natural childbirth" here, do they mean "vaginal," or "drug-free"?

In mixed company, I use it to refer to vaginal birth. When speaking with women, I use it to refer to a pain-meds-free birth. I just don't like saying "vagina" to men. Unless... well, not even then. It's too intimate and yet, too clinical, depending on the nature of the, uh, discussion.

Suparni, just let it go. There are no hard feelings here, truly. Just move on, we all have. :)

First of all "suddenly stopped taking your meds?" - You have always been an asshole to me so what is the sudden bit... I don't like you or find you amusing and I am tired of your nasty input and attitude toward me so yes, I tell you how I feel about you flat out... finally - and no, I don't care how it looks to you.

Secondly, if you really think I am batshit crazy and imagine me crying on the edge of my bed all day, then why would you continue to be nasty calling me a nut... it doesn't seem very compassionate behavior towards a person whom you genuinely consider unbalanced.

Third, I wouldn't worry about me being locked up crying on the edge of the bed or anything of the sort, you will be happy to know that is not at all the case for me.

i haven't been around here quite as much lately, in fact this is the most I have contributed in a while... seems it's better for most people that way - including myself... So I trust the negativity coming from without and admittedly from myself - seems I don't much like or want to be around here - and i doubt any of you will object. okay? happy? voila.


Wah.... wah wah wah

In mixed company, I use it to refer to vaginal birth. When speaking with women, I use it to refer to a pain-meds-free birth. I just don't like saying "vagina" to men. Unless... well, not even then. It's too intimate and yet, too clinical, depending on the nature of the, uh, discussion.

I said else where that Vagina is a word that my son hates, I mentioned earlier that someone called it a vajayjay here and he went why the hell would I want to know that!
(cheeky) :p

Wah.... wah wah wah

i need to find a cool quote to put in my siggy!

karin he's so cute being grossed out by vajayjays. they call it bojangles on "scrubs" hahah

as the person who made this thread i am issuing a cease and desist (sp?) on drugs and childbirth! I do not want new debates thank you!

your not the boss of this thread!

oh wait, you are.

well the thing is you can't really stop things rambling off, I know I have tried before.

ok lets get it back on track.

Jesus what is with these wimmin who do not want bairns?

feminists or lesbians something like that probably. *



ok, that was a joke!!!*

your not the boss of this thread!

oh wait, you are.

well the thing is you can't really stop things rambling off, I know I have tried before.

ok lets get it back on track.

Jesus what is with these wimmin who do not want bairns?

feminists or lesbians something like that probably. *



ok, that was a joke!!!*
i know, haha!

then why do some lesbian couples want children? Discuss!

i need to find a cool quote to put in my siggy!

karin he's so cute being grossed out by vajayjays. they call it bojangles on "scrubs" hahah

he has a book all about bodies in it, and his dad was flicking through it and he went oh look Dylan a Vagina and he went running through his room, he still occasionally asks If I have "balls" I don't know how many times I have said no, and also said you really should not call them that. :p

Hey lottie I hope you are okay...
I use this....
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z221/McBored/126570.jpg
hope it helps ;);)

rofl, whatcha do, squirt it at the children?
;);)

I can tolerate children sometimes, but i am always very glad when they go away again. life is restrictive enough without having to be tied to things like the school run... *shudders*

i know, haha!

then why do some lesbian couples want children? Discuss!

oh god! *panics*

em well.. biological clocks and

hehe well I have lesbian friends and they have a family, however they did it the more conventional way as they both had husbands before they had a relationship with each other.

oh god! *panics*

em well.. biological clocks and

hehe well I have lesbian friends and they have a family, however they did it the more conventional way as they both had husbands before they had a relationship with each other.

Did both couples know each other? Like was it as if everyone was friends and then suddenly the girls became a bit more friendly than usual?

he has a book all about bodies in it, and his dad was flicking through it and he went oh look Dylan a Vagina and he went running through his room, he still occasionally asks If I have "balls" I don't know how many times I have said no, and also said you really should not call them that. :p
haha you should say yes i have brass ballz
oh god! *panics*

em well.. biological clocks and

hehe well I have lesbian friends and they have a family, however they did it the more conventional way as they both had husbands before they had a relationship with each other.

ooh, frinky lol

hehe well I have lesbian friends and they have a family, however they did it the more conventional way as they both had husbands before they had a relationship with each other.

That's interesting. I've always wondered whether a husband whose wife cheats with a woman would consider that to be on par with cheating with a man. I don't, so does that make me a bigot? :D

oh is this the new thing, nicking comments for sigs? I do not think I like it.
*is party pooper*

oh is this the new thing, nicking comments for sigs? I do not think I like it.
*is party pooper*

its not REALLY new since codreanu's been saying "I love you" forever in someones sig.
if alma hates it or NRiTH i will immediately remove it, of course. but those are wonderful quotes. they make me smile.

That's interesting. I've always wondered whether a husband whose wife cheats with a woman would consider that to be on par with cheating with a man. I don't, so does that make me a bigot? :D

I think both would be kind of crappy, altho the whole men kissing thing is ok... (the shbf would throw up at this point)

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oh is this the new thing, nicking comments for sigs? I do not think I like it.
*is party pooper*

If signatures allow QUOTE tags, then what's wrong with using them? As long as the quotes aren't from a moderator, of course. :rolleyes:

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/images/2885.jpg

its not REALLY new since codreanu's been saying "I love you" forever in someones sig.

Yeah, but he & Busy Clippers took screen shots of each other's posts; I used the QUOTE tags. Hey, maybe I wouldn't have been censored if I'd used screenshots! Hmm....

if alma hates it or NRiTH i will immediately remove it, of course. but those are wonderful quotes. they make me smile.

No objections from me. I don't usually see sigs, anyway.

Yeah, but he & Busy Clippers took screen shots of each other's posts; I used the QUOTE tags. Hey, maybe I wouldn't have been censored if I'd used screenshots! Hmm....



No objections from me. I don't usually see sigs, anyway.

its the good one about how dads dont die during childbirth. real winner! love it!:cool:

its the good one about how dads dont die during childbirth. real winner! love it!:cool:

yes I thought that was very funny as well.

If signatures allow QUOTE tags, then what's wrong with using them? As long as the quotes aren't from a moderator, of course. :rolleyes:

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/images/2885.jpg

oh stop it, you big baby. :p

oh stop it, you big baby. :p

http://intellectualize.org/images/help_oppressed.gif

oh stop it, you big baby. :p

yeah NRiTH you should be used to our partially fascist regime here by now.
:p

I am liking my new signature... it covers all bases.

http://intellectualize.org/images/help_oppressed.gif

http://www.usablemarkets.com/images/pie_pacman_chart.png

http://www.usablemarkets.com/images/pie_pacman_chart.png

Hahahahahahahaha!

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v196/205/48/15212914/n15212914_32059056_3026.jpg

this is a chart posting thread now, right? venn diagrams rock!

oh is this the new thing, nicking comments for sigs? I do not think I like it.
*is party pooper*

Why? It's kind of fun. :D:p

Why? It's kind of fun. :D:p

*tee, hee*

Oh, and I stand corrected: while Codreanu's sig is a screenshot of a Busy Clippers post, BC's really uses the QUOTE tags. And did she get in trouble for it?

Why? It's kind of fun. :D:p

pregs you have to make your sig a quote! we need to know its from karin!:p

I like being a part of somebody's signature...I feel really SPECIAL! :)

Love Alma xxx

I like being a part of somebody's signature...I feel really SPECIAL! :)

Love Alma xxx

you ARE Special. hey are those your boobs in your picture?

*tee, hee*

pregs you have to make your sig a quote! we need to know its from karin!:p

Damn! Pregs beat me to it! Serves me right for having sigs turned off. :mad:

you ARE Special. hey are those your boobs in your picture?

Yes they are...and I breast feed two babies with 'em too! (although not at the same time!) ;)

Love Alma xxx

Maybe you could draw a tenuous parallel to gay marriage. Gay couples are told by society that their unions are not valid, not important, not worth a simple legal consideration.

It is more natural to want children than not to want them.

That's how I feel about homosexuality, and people call me a homophobe! :mad: Please... it doesn't take much to understand the difference between natural and unnatural! We allow for many unnatural things in our society, homosexuality being one of them... Why is it bad to call a spade a spade?!

have we already discussed how bad it is that they are becoming routine though now? Let people give it a go naturally I say, I took a minor panic just before my son was due thinking oh god I will just have a c sec, but after seeing the woman opposite me who had to have an emergencey C hobbling about for days I thought yea I am glad I just did it the "usual" way.

I asked Musley to start a thread... She didn't :tears:

Yes they are...and I breast feed two babies with 'em too! (although not at the same time!) ;)

Love Alma xxx

Well your boobies are gorgeous. I wish mine looked that good in that kind of shirt!

Well your boobies are gorgeous. I wish mine looked that good in that kind of shirt!

Thanks!...just goes to show that having kids doesn't (necessarily) wreck your figure! ;)

Love Alma xxx

Thanks!...just goes to show that having kids doesn't (necessarily) wreck your figure! ;)

Love Alma xxx

sadly my boobies are already hangy. i can only imagine what the breastfeeding will do. i wish I had Bs.

sadly my boobies are already hangy. i can only imagine what the breastfeeding will do. i wish I had Bs.

Breast feeding actually improved mine!...I was a tiny "A" pre-kids...now I am a small but perky "B"! Also I was way too skinny before I had my children...I am more curvy now (which I like)

I feed them both myself for an entire year (often in public too...which is a whole other debate I guess!)...never once gave them a bottle...or a dummy...hard work but worth it I think.

Love Alma xxx

Breast feeding actually improved mine!...I was a tiny "A" pre-kids...now I am a small but perky "B"! Also I was way too skinny before I had my children...I am more curvy now (which I like)

I feed them both myself for an entire year (often in public too...which is a whole other debate I guess!)...never once gave them a bottle...or a dummy...hard work but worth it I think.

Love Alma xxx

i dont think mine will get smaller :( i wish
dont start new debates (im for public BFing)

I like being a part of somebody's signature...I feel really SPECIAL! :)

Love Alma xxx

I am sure that is how a certain someone whom I quote feels right now.

I made a conscious decision to stop breast feeding on my daughters first birthday....I put her to bed that night after her last feed...went downstairs and screamed excitedly to Mr Reallymatters "Yeah....I've FINALLY got my body back!"....the next morning I felt a bit queasy...and yes you've guessed it...I was pregnant again! So I actually had my body back for less than 24 hours! :rolleyes:

Love Alma xxx

I made a conscious decision to stop breast feeding on my daughters first birthday....I put her to bed that night after her last feed...went downstairs and screamed excitedly to Mr Reallymatters "Yeah....I've FINALLY got my body back!"....the next morning I felt a bit queasy...and yes you've guessed it...I was pregnant again! So I actually had my body back for less than 24 hours! :rolleyes:

Love Alma xxx

that is a really funny story, omg, thats funny!

that is a really funny story, omg, thats funny!

Yeah...f**king hilarious! ;)

Love Alma xxx

Yes they are...and I breast feed two babies with 'em too! (although not at the same time!) ;)


I breast fed my twin daughters for over a year....it was sooo much easier than preparing all those bottles!

....the next morning I felt a bit queasy...and yes you've guessed it...I was pregnant again! So I actually had my body back for less than 24 hours! :rolleyes:



I woke up queasy one morning, and soon found out I was pregnant with twins....and I was still breast feeding my 7 month old son :eek:....
Those years were a blur....

I breast fed my twin daughters for over a year....it was sooo much easier than preparing all those bottles!




I woke up queasy one morning, and soon found out I was pregnant with twins....and I was still breast feeding my 7 month old son :eek:....
Those years were a blur....

:eek: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o155/alfredcastel/Emos/-swoon.gif

I woke up queasy one morning, and soon found out I was pregnant with twins....and I was still breast feeding my 7 month old son :eek:....
Those years were a blur....

I knew they were spaced closely, but not that closely! Holy shit! Ours are nearly 3 years apart, and that has been hellishly close enough.

I knew they were spaced closely, but not that closely! Holy shit! Ours are nearly 3 years apart, and that has been hellishly close enough.

Yep they're spaced closely! One thing that made it easier though, was that my son was not even 16 months when they were born....so he wasn't tearing through the house yet!

I just woke up...wow, convo still on? "What are you thinking at this moment" has nothing on this thread... ;) :rolleyes: p.s. I nursed for a year and my boobies are not what they used to be :(

I just woke up...wow, convo still on? "What are you thinking at this moment" has nothing on this thread... ;) :rolleyes: p.s. I nursed for a year and my boobies are not what they used to be :(

Oh now Corrissey, you've posted several frinky and perky pics! ;)

Oh now Corrissey, you've posted several frinky and perky pics! ;)

Behold the miracle bra :)

Behold the miracle bra :)

:D:D:D:guitar:

We could create a new frink thread.....
or...Are Mommies who breast fed better Morrissey fans?

(I would have thrown "and had C-Sections" in there, but I didn't want to start anything again......oops)

We could create a new frink thread.....
or...Are Mommies who breast fed better Morrissey fans?

(I would have thrown "and had C-Sections" in there, but I didn't want to start anything again......oops)

It's funny, usually c-section is mentioned as a contributing factor in breastfeeding failure (don't anybody get your Hanes in a knot, that means trying to nurse and not being able to), but I made friends with a group of women who had csections and successfully nursed their babies for at least a year. 7 of us.

It's funny, usually c-section is mentioned as a contributing factor in breastfeeding failure (don't anybody get your Hanes in a knot, that means trying to nurse and not being able to), but I made friends with a group of women who had csections and successfully nursed their babies for at least a year. 7 of us.

#8 :)

I've never heard of a correlation between c-sections and nursing. Wow, the things you can learn on Morrissey-solo ;)

I never breastfed as my normally 36"DD went up to 36"G's and frankly the idea of the babies getting caught short in Asda and me subjecting the hoi poloi to such a terrifying enslaught on their eyes was the clincher.:p:(

I never breastfed as my normally 36"DD went up to 36"G's and frankly the idea of the babies getting caught short in Asda and me subjecting the hoi poloi to such a terrifying enslaught on their eyes was the clincher.:p:(

They have fetish Web sites for that kind of thing now. You could have made millions!

A woman aged 57 is to give birth to her first baby next week, after doctors initially feared she had ovarian cancer.

Susan Tollefsen, from Romford, east London, was sent to hospital for emergency tests on her swelling belly eight weeks ago, but was instead congratulated by the sonographer who told her she was almost 30 weeks pregnant.

She will become one of Britain's oldest mothers when she gives birth to a baby girl, who she has already named Freya, by caesarean section next week.

She said: "We're very excited about it. It's our miracle baby."

The pregnancy follows several years of attempts by Ms Tollefsen, a special needs teacher, and her partner, Nick Mayer, 46, a warehouse manager, to have a baby by IVF treatment in foreign clinics, they told the Daily Mail.

Ms Tollefsen said she was referred to hospital after an examination by a private GP revealed a "hard abdominal mass".

She had just undergone an examination at the private Nuffield Hospital in Brentwood, Essex, when the sonographer turned to her and said 'congratulations', she said.

The couple thought their hopes of having a baby through IVF were over when Ms Tollefsen suffered an apparent miscarriage within four weeks of two fertilised embryos being implanted at a Russian fertility clinic.

She said her GP told her she had miscarried and a blood test and home pregnancy test appeared to confirm this by showing negative. She now believes she miscarried one of the twins and the other survived.

All the scans had shown the baby was developing normally, Ms Tollefsen said.

Love Alma xxx

A woman aged 57 is to give birth to her first baby next week, after doctors initially feared she had ovarian cancer....All the scans had shown the baby was developing normally, Ms Tollefsen said.

Love Alma xxx

That is really weird. I'm happy she didnt have cancer! just a parasite, BWAHAHAHA
alma secretly wants this thread to keep popping up, don't you darlin!

That is really weird. I'm happy she didnt have cancer! just a parasite, BWAHAHAHA
alma secretly wants this thread to keep popping up, don't you darlin!

I just thought it was very interesting...a woman welcoming motherhood at 57...she is very brave...I'm hopeing to have my feet up by then...nappies and sleepless nights and stuff just a distant memory!

Love Alma xxx

Hey look!...my 2000th post!

*TAKES A BOW*

I just thought it was very interesting...a woman welcoming motherhood at 57...she is very brave...I'm hopeing to have my feet up by then...nappies and sleepless nights and stuff just a distant memory!

Love Alma xxx

maybe she has grown up nieces and nephews to come over and lend a hand. i know her 10 yr younger hubby's gonna have to chip in, heehee!

:eek: 57 years old with a newborn... good luck with that. :p

Would you like to see my episiotomy scar photo?....just kidding! :D

Love Alma xxx

much luv to Alma.. I'll show you mine, if you show me yours! but no one should really see that.. do you remember the pressure of it? God, terrible. But since you are such a lovely woman, i envision you like the episode of ABSFAB when she was having what's her name on a bed of rose pedals, and well you should know the rest.. great episode.

ahhhahaha Alma with her gorgeous kids and still manages to see some moz shows..

Oh, my, the thread that caused one SoLow regular to leave (and was started by another who has) has been bumped! :eek:

Oh, my, the thread that caused one SoLow regular to leave (and was started by another who has) has been bumped! :eek:

who left because of this threa.... oh wait i remember now oh well. and was started by another who has? what? left? Im still here :)

Oh, my, the thread that caused one SoLow regular to leave (and was started by another who has) has been bumped! :eek:

no no, boggy started it! but...i know the two people you are referring to

no no, boggy started it! but...i know the two people you are referring to

i know the first but i dont know who the second

who left because of this threa.... oh wait i remember now oh well. and was started by another who has? what? left? Im still here :)

no no, boggy started it! but...i know the two people you are referring to

i know the first but i dont know who the second

Oh, shit, you're right--my bad! But I can't tell you who it is without cornelius accusing me of "shit stirring" again. :rolleyes:

Oh, shit, you're right--my bad! But I can't tell you who it is without cornelius accusing me of "shit stirring" again. :rolleyes:

I hereby give you permission to tell me either via AIM :p

http://www.cemphotos.com/tx/tx-hawley/BUMP_Mary_Alice.jpg

This was a fun thread. Lots of drama went down. Let's bring it back to life.

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This was a fun thread. Lots of drama went down. Let's bring it back to life.

shit-stirrer!! :mad: :rolleyes: ;)

shit-stirrer!! :mad: :rolleyes: ;)

You knows it.

This is because you read another post of mine?
Hmm hmmm hmmm?

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This is because you read another post of mine?
Hmm hmmm hmmm?

http://www.movies.pop-cult.com/images/caddyshack1.jpg

Yes, it is. Sorry I didn't give you props. :o

My divorce is over. I am giving the kids to Kevin. It isn't free though. It will cost me $20,000 a month.

I said it's a choice, but I think that people who have more than one child are selfish. The world's overpopulated as it is.

I said it's a choice, but I think that people who have more than one child are selfish. The world's overpopulated as it is.

What about couples who have twins then? Ridiculous logic.

What about couples who have twins then? Ridiculous logic.

Obviously that's a different matter! Ridiculous argument!

What about couples who have twins then? Ridiculous logic.

Nah - if you are going to have kids - it is best to have at least two.

Nah - if you are going to have kids - it is best to have at least two.

Why's that?

Why's that?

they entertain each other. plus you dont have to beat them, they beat each other, and no one goes to jail or loses custody ;)

I said it's a choice, but I think that people who have more than one child are selfish. The world's overpopulated as it is.

oh, c'mon now...don't be ridiculous. Are you just saying that to get this thread (& people) going? Do you want children someday? I mean A kid?
You have no idea.

I gotta go to work.

oh, c'mon now...don't be ridiculous. Are you just saying that to get this thread (& people) going? Do you want children someday? I mean A kid?
You have no idea.

I gotta go to work.

maybe she's from China. They seem to have a different moral compass on children... or at least, they're told to have one.
Just like Japan has some sort of 'suicide is virtuous' thing going on :) I knew that Japan had a high suicide rate (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/japan1)but its back in the paper again, the new death du jour is actually killing people (http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/briquettes-are-out-hydrogen-sulfide-in-as-latest-suicide-method) besides the suicidal ones!

they entertain each other. plus you dont have to beat them, they beat each other, and no one goes to jail or loses custody ;)

Although I did laugh at this, I have to disagree. Only children can turn out to be pretty cool. If you have no brothers or sisters to play with it forces you to be more outgoing and make your own friends etc. Also I think it allows you to have a more creative imagination because when you are stuck inside on rainy days etc, you have to make your own fun. Rather than throwing things at your siblings, you use your imagination and do something fun and usually easier for your parents to deal with :)

Although I did laugh at this, I have to disagree. Only children can turn out to be pretty cool. If you have no brothers or sisters to play with it forces you to be more outgoing and make your own friends etc. Also I think it allows you to have a more creative imagination because when you are stuck inside on rainy days etc, you have to make your own fun. Rather than throwing things at your siblings, you use your imagination and do something fun and usually easier for your parents to deal with :)

well, i'll disagree with you, as well! because I have several "only children" friends; some are outgoing, some are introverted and shy and stuttery. To be honest, children turn out certain ways based on their environment and their temperament.

and since you're an only, maybe you dont know that having sisters and brothers doubles the creativity. We had many a fun rainy afternoon on our couch boat, with books on the floor as stepping stones so that we dont get burned by the carpet lava when we're exiting the fishing boat to get some kool aid.

well, i'll disagree with you, as well! because I have several "only children" friends; some are outgoing, some are introverted and shy and stuttery. To be honest, children turn out certain ways based on their environment and their temperament.

and since you're an only, maybe you dont know that having sisters and brothers doubles the creativity. We had many a fun rainy afternoon on our couch boat, with books on the floor as stepping stones so that we dont get burned by the carpet lava when we're exiting the fishing boat to get some kool aid.

*cracks knuckles*

I will agree with you that there are certain onlys that can turn out quite strange. One in particular I know, is a great singer and songwriter, has done some pretty amazing things with his music career etc but on a personal level, he's fucked. He's a nice guy but could really use some therapy. Like me he says he is sorry too often, but in his case I think its almost an OCD thing. He has to say he's sorry for everything, all the time. Other things make me believe he is a bit "not right in the head".

However, I feel I'm pretty well adjusted. I don't know maybe I'm crazy too and people just know that in secret and are too scared to tell me.

As for becoming a product of your environment, I agree. I didn't have siblings to play with so I had imaginary ones, or just played with toys or sang or played sports etc. Just like peeps with bros and sis's. I dunno I guess I just don't think that only children are THAT different. But I guess its a case by case thing.

well i hope you know i wasnt saying all onlys are weird. plenty of kids from big families are weird too... god knows.

laughed at the description of the person whom you are speaking of ;)

I'm an only child. I grew up doing lots of things by myself. playing the piano, drawing, painting. i was big into Barbie and often I didn't have anyone to play with so I would make up soap opera type stories with them. some pretty deep stuff for an 8 year old!! haha.

I think in my case it really helped my creativity. but at the same time I wasnt all socially awkward either, cuz i had lots of cousins who lived near me close to my age that I played with. they were alot like having brothers and sisters cept they always went home eventually.

well i hope you know i wasnt saying all onlys are weird. plenty of kids from big families are weird too... god knows.

laughed at the description of the person whom you are speaking of ;)


Fair enough. I know personally, myself and this other only (the crazy one) are both passive agressive, that's no good and I think it could be related to the fact that we are onlys. Who knows.

To bring it back on topic, at this stage in my life I am aiming for 0-1 kids in my lifetime. I won't be trying for any but if I have 1, I am certainly done. Just my preference.

I once dreamt that I gave birth to a large tooth with a face. It was actually pretty cute and I loved it and everything. I guess if I did one day produce a tooth, that would be ok too.

Fair enough. I know personally, myself and this other only (the crazy one) are both passive agressive, that's no good and I think it could be related to the fact that we are onlys. Who knows.

To bring it back on topic, at this stage in my life I am aiming for 0-1 kids in my lifetime. I won't be trying for any but if I have 1, I am certainly done. Just my preference.

I once dreamt that I gave birth to a large tooth with a face. It was actually pretty cute and I loved it and everything. I guess if I did one day produce a tooth, that would be ok too.

hahaha. i loled!

hahaha. i loled!

God, so did I. and it reminded my of an old video i used to watch. Im going to see if youtube has it.

i'm aiming for 1-2. But that is still a few years off.

and I think passive aggressive is a female trait more than an only trait :D

God, so did I. and it reminded my of an old video i used to watch. Im going to see if youtube has it.

i'm aiming for 1-2. But that is still a few years off.

and I think passive aggressive is a female trait more than an only trait :D


I believe you might be correct. Either females or just really moody men. I happen to be blessed with one as a father and I fear turning into him someday. :eek:

*edit* I just realized my dad is an only too! Eeek!!!

There is nothing wrong with being an only child. If nothing else, I think it makes you a stronger individual in a lot of ways. Any child has the tendency to be maladjusted…nature & nurture…that’s not the ‘argument’…it’s being told you’re selfish for wanting more than one child when there are a lot of reasons why people do. Secondary infertility (having one child and for whatever reason, not being able to have another) is more common than you think, yet not really recognized as a “problem” –it is a serious issue within a very niche group. Don’t ever think we’re ungrateful for the one we already do have -it doesn’t mean we’re not blessed and they are not loved wholeheartedly. The desire for one is just as strong as the desire for another. Some women want more than one because they’ve already made that decision at some point in their lives – what they feel makes their family ‘complete’. The number of children one wants is a personal preference -people make the right decision for themselves–and others should respect that.

There is nothing wrong with being an only child. If nothing else, I think it makes you a stronger individual in a lot of ways. Any child has the tendency to be maladjusted…nature & nurture…that’s not the ‘argument’…it’s being told you’re selfish for wanting more than one child when there are a lot of reasons why people do. Secondary infertility (having one child and for whatever reason, not being able to have another) is more common than you think, yet not really recognized as a “problem” –it is a serious issue within a very niche group. Don’t ever think we’re ungrateful for the one we already do have -it doesn’t mean we’re not blessed and they are not loved wholeheartedly. The desire for one is just as strong as the desire for another. Some women want more than one because they’ve already made that decision at some point in their lives – what they feel makes their family ‘complete’. The number of children one wants is a personal preference -people make the right decision for themselves–and others should respect that.

agreed. as long as every child is taken care of properly, treated equally, and loved, that's all that should matter. :)

There is nothing wrong with being an only child. If nothing else, I think it makes you a stronger individual in a lot of ways. Any child has the tendency to be maladjusted…nature & nurture…that’s not the ‘argument’…it’s being told you’re selfish for wanting more than one child when there are a lot of reasons why people do. Secondary infertility (having one child and for whatever reason, not being able to have another) is more common than you think, yet not really recognized as a “problem” –it is a serious issue within a very niche group. Don’t ever think we’re ungrateful for the one we already do have -it doesn’t mean we’re not blessed and they are not loved wholeheartedly. The desire for one is just as strong as the desire for another. Some women want more than one because they’ve already made that decision at some point in their lives – what they feel makes their family ‘complete’. The number of children one wants is a personal preference -people make the right decision for themselves–and others should respect that.

Right on brain twin. I'm pickin up what you're puttin down. Its not all roses being an only child. That bond you share with a sibling is something I have always wished for and will never know. So if people have siblings and get along with them and have a good relationship with them, how can that be bad? Family is family and good or bad, they are yours. Big or small.

maybe she's from China. They seem to have a different moral compass on children... or at least, they're told to have one.
Just like Japan has some sort of 'suicide is virtuous' thing going on :) I knew that Japan had a high suicide rate (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/19/japan1)but its back in the paper again, the new death du jour is actually killing people (http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/briquettes-are-out-hydrogen-sulfide-in-as-latest-suicide-method) besides the suicidal ones!

He!:D Anyway, I'm not Chinese! They only have a ban on more than one child because China is WAAAAy over-populated!

This thread is still active? That's hot. This is where I got my tag quote.

would you like a childfree school:p

Heh - my friend and I walk around sometimes like Dante and Randall from clerks whenever there is the smell of chaos in the building...

"This job would be great if it weren't for the kids."

"Which ones?"

"All of them"

i love it when this thread continues to be resurrected. SWEET! I think it's in the running for the best thread of the year!

This thread is a thing of beauty.

This thread is a thing of beauty.

I am quite proud of it. I have many to thank though, Buzzetta and Suparni for starters.

I am quite proud of it. I have many to thank though, Buzzetta and Suparni for starters.

I do not think she likes me anymore.

Wah wah wah

I do not think she likes me anymore.

Wah wah wah

She's either left us or she haunts these threads. either way we will survive.

She's either left us or she haunts these threads. either way we will survive.

I sort of made her "unhappy."

I think I'd like to have children in the future. I'm not sure when and I'm not sure how many, but I think I would. I reckon when I'm in the 25-35 age bracket and no more than 3.

Both my aunts are married and childless, one enjoys having lots of nieces and nephews (there are 7 in all, including me) and I think the other one thought she was too irresponsible to be a mother, which I think is actually a responsible thing to do.

I have a horrible feeling that I am under quite a bit of pressure to reproduce when I fully grow up - I think my sister thinks along the same lines as the aunt who considered herself too irresponsible to have children, and she insists that she is going to become 'cool aunty' to my children. :eek: Oh well, she can't force me to make zee babies. :p

There are a couple of people I see around here that I can only pray that they never reproduce for a multitude of reasons.

i can honestly say at this moment in time ,i would be a terrible parent.i am far too selfish.
but one day maybe.

This thread is a thing of beauty.

I am quite proud of it. I have many to thank though, Buzzetta and Suparni for starters.

oh yeah, this thread is definitely up there for memorable solo moments.

i can honestly say at this moment in time ,i would be a terrible parent.i am far too selfish.
but one day maybe.

That is the sacrifice. I've had many friends, before they became parents, say that and I was glad they could admit, recognize & accept that. Life changes when you have a child...you'll do everything for them...and still, many for yourself ;) That's the balance you find. :)

I just spent the last 4 days with my 7yr old cousin and damn is she annoying. She's well behaved and everything. She's the only child and is used to getting all the attention so she constanly wants some. I ignored her and she became more annoying. I know other onlys who aren't like this at all. I'm glad my house is quiet again.

Though it was fun to have someone to play the Wii with. I want Mario Cart now.

I just spent the last 4 days with my 7yr old cousin and damn is she annoying. She's well behaved and everything. She's the only child and is used to getting all the attention so she constanly wants some. I ignored her and she became more annoying. I know other onlys who aren't like this at all. I'm glad my house is quiet again.

Though it was fun to have someone to play the Wii with. I want Mario Cart now.

get the wario ware game,it is sooo much fun, and you can play darts!

That sounds like fun.

There are a couple of people I see around here that I can only pray that they never reproduce for a multitude of reasons.

Sorry, dude. You should have told me that about 7 years ago.

Not you.

Not you.

Whew! :D

Whew! :D

You happen to invite an old friend of yours?

just a reminder, this thread kicks ass. thanks.

just a reminder, this thread kicks ass. thanks.

I agree.

As it was referenced in another thread: on line cutting and waiting in line over in "The List" over in the "Tour" area, I thought I would save the mods the trouble and allow everyone to see what they were referring to.

You are all welcome.

interesting, i think i understand a little better why certain people stopped posting here now :cool:
its sad when the trolls win :tears:

interesting, i think i understand a little better why certain people stopped posting here now :cool:
its sad when the trolls win :tears:

Define troll please according to your standards.

Wow. I just read this entire thread and I'm truly shocked at how so many people see parents. Having a child hasn't taken away from my freedom at all. When they're babies you aren't as free, but once they turn 3 or so you get most of your freedom back. We travel, we create art, we write, we have hobbies and interests -- What part of life does having a child take away from? I haven't experienced this at all.

I know that there is a certain kind of parent who changes after having kids. These people bother me. I meet them at my daughter's school sometimes. They're frumpy and have whining children hanging on them. They look worn down by it all. I imagine that this is the parent that you're talking about, but we're not all like this. Parenthood doesn't make people that way. It's something that was always within them.

Am I starting this up again? :[

Wow. I just read this entire thread and I'm truly shocked at how so many people see parents. Having a child hasn't taken away from my freedom at all. When they're babies you aren't as free, but once they turn 3 or so you get most of your freedom back. We travel, we create art, we write, we have hobbies and interests -- What part of life does having a child take away from? I haven't experienced this at all.

I know that there is a certain kind of parent who changes after having kids. These people bother me. I meet them at my daughter's school sometimes. They're frumpy and have whining children hanging on them. They look worn down by it all. I imagine that this is the parent that you're talking about, but we're not all like this. Parenthood doesn't make people that way. It's something that was always within them.

Am I starting this up again? :[

Nah not really - however I did learn one thing that had a huge impact on me.
I believe it was Pregnant for the Last Time that said that she is not raising children she is raising "future adults." How did that change things?

Well it made me sit down and consider things and I can say that I will welcome the opportunity and challenge when that day comes.

It's rather meaningless to "judge" people for the mere fact of (not) having children. I think you better ask "why" they want/don't want children - you can judge people's intentions, rather than their actual situation (which could be rather different from their intentions).

I personally don't have any, and I don't think I'll end up having any that are "mine" - unless perhaps I start living with someone who already has children. I've never felt the need to “have" a child of my own. I'm sure having children can be emotionally very enriching, and I'd welcome children into my life. But there's no need, for me, to have a shared bloodline with anyone: I don't feel the need to "create" or "give life" to new human beings.

I sit and watch, as years go by(e)...