Does being vegetarian mean you are a better Morrissey fan

[naranjito]

I'd like to know because I am vegetarian.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I'd like to know because I am vegetarian.

No, it makes you a better person, because you've chosen to avoid needless killing of animals on your behalf. *ducking and hiding, debate is sure to follow*

Oh, and you likely smell better. :D

[selfvalidation]

Does being Jewish make you a better Woody Allen fan?
No.
I think the same applies here.

[naranjito]

Oh, and you likely smell better. :D

I smell better than most of my friends and acquaintances

[pandora_cocteau]

yes. it means you're a better person in general too.

[selfvalidation]

I smell better than most of my friends and acquaintances

thats ridiculous

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I smell better than most of my friends and acquaintances

Citrusy fresh?

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

I smell better than most of my friends and acquaintances

terrific! how are the cracked heels? better?

[Kilt Uncle]

I think it does in the sense that you are closer to something that obviously means something very fundamental to Moz. It probably makes you a more aware person too.

But i'm not sure it makes you a better person.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

thats ridiculous

No, actually it isn't. I've found that not only does meat stink like something dead, my family members who eat meat smell more strongly than they seemed to before.

terrific! how are the cracked heels? better?

I'm glad you asked, I was afraid to.

[naranjito]

terrific! how are the cracked heels? better?

Hello, thanks for the feedback. My heels are much better thankyou for asking. I have an Electric Foot Callous Remover that I am using.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

Hello, thanks for the feedback. My heels are much better thankyou for asking. I have an Electric Foot Callous Remover that I am using.

Good. Is the machine painful to use?

[naranjito]

I don't eat my friends.

[naranjito]

Good. Is the machine painful to use?

Not really, but it creates a lot of dust everywhere.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I don't eat my friends.

What do you do to your enemies?

[naranjito]

People who eat meat have big stomachs.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

Not really, but it creates a lot of dust everywhere.

You would think that they could have designed a machine with a vacuum to collect all that dust huh?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

People who eat meat have big stomachs.

How long have you been a vegetarian? Are you also vegan?

[naranjito]

How long have you been a vegetarian? Are you also vegan?

Not very long. I became vegetarian after seeing a film about bad treatment of animals on google video. I am not a vegan because I eat a lot of cereal and I like to pour milk on my cereals.

[naranjito]

You would think that they could have designed a machine with a vacuum to collect all that dust huh?

Yes that is a good idea.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Not very long. I became vegetarian after seeing a film about bad treatment of animals on google video. I am not a vegan because I eat a lot of cereal and I like to pour milk on my cereals.

Me either, that's another big adjustment to make and my family still eats meat, so it's enough of a struggle keeping it out of the house as much as possible. I can't stand the smell at all.

[dizzywhore_1804]

I think it does in the sense that you are closer to something that obviously means something very fundamental to Moz. It probably makes you a more aware person too.

But i'm not sure it makes you a better person.

I tried being a vegetarian after the New Year, so in January - my conclusion: veggie food is gross.
And bare in mind I'm saying that as someone who WANTED to like it.

I was born and raised eating meat and frankly I think it's delicious. Try as I might, I just can't square it morally.
Unfortunately, much as I'd like to say that I'm going to be a strong moral person and NOT eat meat I can't.
I like my food too much, and meat is delicious.

I'm practically perfect in every other way though! ;)


As for it making you a better fan: much like the Bible, Morrissey says a lot of sensible things but a lot of very dumb things too (nothing quite as awful as the Bible, mind).
If you're a veggie just 'coz Morrissey says so, that's quite odd.

[naranjito]

I tried being a vegetarian after the New Year, so in January - my conclusion: veggie food is gross.
And bare in mind I'm saying that as someone who WANTED to like it.

I was born and raised eating meat and frankly I think it's delicious. Try as I might, I just can't square it morally.
Unfortunately, much as I'd like to say that I'm going to be a strong moral person and NOT eat meat I can't.
I like my food too much, and meat is delicious.

I'm practically perfect in every other way though! ;)


As for it making you a better fan: much like the Bible, Morrissey says a lot of sensible things but a lot of very dumb things too (nothing quite as awful as the Bible, mind).
If you're a veggie just 'coz Morrissey says so, that's quite odd.


:angry:

[Jukebox Jury]

it makes you a better person, because you've chosen to avoid needless killing of animals on your behalf.

yes. it means you're a better person in general too.

Wasn't Adolf Hitler a vegetarian?

Jukebox Jury

[dizzywhore_1804]

:angry:

Care to explain?

[naranjito]

I think Morrissey does not like people like you.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I think Morrissey does not like people like you.

Fine, but it shouldn't matter. One should choose one's behavior based on one's own morals and ethics, not on what Morrissey might prefer. You might make the same choices he does, that's fine.

[dizzywhore_1804]

I think Morrissey does not like people like you.

I don't think Morrissey would either. But I get the impression, other than my deep and true connection to his MUSIC (for let's not forget he's a singer, not a Saint) we wouldn't get along in any way.

But, for the fun of it, why not?

[naranjito]

Fine, but it shouldn't matter. One should choose one's behavior based on one's own morals and ethics, not on what Morrissey might prefer. You might make the same choices he does, that's fine.

She is a lazy whore1804 because it doesn't take much to stop eating meat.

[vicarinatutugal]

People who eat meat have big stomachs.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/stephk817/P1000265.jpg :eek: :eek:

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

thanks karin.:D

[naranjito]

That doesn't look big to me. His belt is very tight.

[dizzywhore_1804]

She is a lazy whore1804 because it doesn't take much to stop eating meat.

No, you're right, it didn't.
I tried it for a month and while I felt very smug about it I soon realised that I was just back to eating chocolate and crisps because salads (which aren't cheap in this part of London) and veggie-alternative foods just don't taste nice to me.
And that is a lot to give up: enjoying meals forever more.

And also: she?

[naranjito]

I heard that if you don't eat meat, you will live until you are 100 years old.

[vicarinatutugal]

thanks karin.:D

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n255/four_of_five/salute.gif

[stephk817]

That doesn't look big to me. His belt is very tight.

That's not a belt but his skivvies. ;)

[dizzywhore_1804]

That doesn't look big to me. His belt is very tight.

And without meaning to sound like I'm trying to cause fights: Morrissey is a slightly bigger chap nowadays (still sexy in his own way, I suppose), it's perfectly natural.

[naranjito]

No, you're right, it didn't.
I tried it for a month and while I felt very smug about it I soon realised that I was just back to eating chocolate and crisps because salads (which aren't cheap in this part of London) and veggie-alternative foods just don't taste nice to me.
And that is a lot to give up: enjoying meals forever more.

And also: she?

I don't eat special vegetarian food. I just don't eat meat. I don't find it very hard.

[naranjito]

That's not a belt but his skivvies. ;)

I thought it was a white belt at first.

[dizzywhore_1804]

I don't eat special vegetarian food. I just don't eat meat. I don't find it very hard.

Well, I'm sorry but Veg and Potato's every night is not something I'd look forward too.

Doesn't make me any worse of a person.

[naranjito]

And without meaning to sound like I'm trying to cause fights: Morrissey is a slightly bigger chap nowadays (still sexy in his own way, I suppose), it's perfectly natural.

Morrissey doesn't go to the gym I don't think.

I like to go walking.

[naranjito]

Well, I'm sorry but Veg and Potato's every night is not something I'd look forward too.

Doesn't make me any worse of a person.


Yes it does.

[Dave]

I'd like to know because I am vegetarian.

No :)

[stephk817]

And without meaning to sound like I'm trying to cause fights: Morrissey is a slightly bigger chap nowadays (still sexy in his own way, I suppose), it's perfectly natural.

Hell yeah he's sexy. There's more to love! :p

[naranjito]

No :)

I think Morrissey would not agree with you.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I don't eat special vegetarian food. I just don't eat meat. I don't find it very hard.

Well, I'm sorry but Veg and Potato's every night is not something I'd look forward too.

Doesn't make me any worse of a person.

It's not hard at all. The hard part is when I eat at restaurants, that can be a real challenge.

[Dave]

Morrissey doesn't go to the gym I don't think.

He does, but not to work out. :D

edit: well, depends on what you mean by work out, I guess. :p

[naranjito]

It's not hard at all. The hard part is when I eat at restaurants, that can be a real challenge.

Once I was stuck in a restaurant and I had to eat a prawn.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Once I was stuck in a restaurant and I had to eat a prawn.

Did they shove it down your throat? They didn't have any crackers? I have learned, too late, that a soup was made with chicken stock when I'd been told it hadn't.:mad:

[dizzywhore_1804]

Yes it does.

Haha, where as you are a brilliant person for going around judging people on nothing more than what they have on their dinner plate?

I think there are slightly more important things to worry about in this world, don't you? Though this is neither the time or place to discuss them.

I think Morrissey is a wonderful lyricist and singer (the best), a kind and compassionate soul, an extremely intelligent man.
That doesn't mean I have to live my life by, or even agree with, everything he's ever said.

[naranjito]

Did they shove it down your throat? They didn't have any crackers? I have learned, too late, that a soup was made with chicken stock when I'd been told it hadn't.:mad:

I chewed on the tail a bit, and then put the rest in my pocket.

[stressford_poet]

yep i think it goes without saying. if you're a carnivore then morrissey, if he knew you, would never have any respect for you as a person.

oh and you're a better person so anyone would like you better.

[naranjito]

I think there are slightly more important things to worry about in this world, don't you?



Like what?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I chewed on the tail a bit, and then put the rest in my pocket.

Who are you, Mr Bean? :p My kids love him.

Really, I'd like to know how this came about, this sounds like a good story.

[naranjito]

Who are you, Mr Bean? :p My kids love him.

Really, I'd like to know how this came about, this sounds like a good story.

I thought it was ok to eat prawns, but then I remembered that it's not good.

[dom]

Haha, where as you are a brilliant person for going around judging people on nothing more than what they have on their dinner plate?

I think there are slightly more important things to worry about in this world, don't you? Though this is neither the time or place to discuss them.

I think Morrissey is a wonderful lyricist and singer (the best), a kind and compassionate soul, an extremely intelligent man.
That doesn't mean I have to live my life by, or even agree with, everything he's ever said.

I agree whole-heartedly. We shouldn't be judged a 'bad person' for eating meat! What the heck it that about! It's more cruel to let a lump of steak be thrown away in the bin to rot amongst condoms and bog roll on a land fill site. Thus, vegetarians should eat all the left-over meat to stop it from rotting a horrible death :-D

And yea, maybe it does make us closer to Morrissey if we were vegetarian, but certainly not a BETTER fan

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I thought it was ok to eat prawns, but then I remembered that it's not good.

Prawns are creatures too... where do you draw the line? Clearly, yeast are ok to eat... would you eat a bug?

[naranjito]

This is what Morrissey has to say on the matter:

Its not natural, normal or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of murder

[Jukebox Jury]

I think Morrissey would not agree with you.

This is about the fourth time you have told us what Morrissey would think.
Do you have inside information?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

[dizzywhore_1804]

Like what?

If you think carnivores are the most evil thing in the world then there is obviously no reasoning with you.

I have stated my case:

- a veggie lifestyle is not for me, and while it left me morally quite smug (which is an area you seem comfortable inhabiting;)) it also left me starving hungry and miserable.
- I did not try to become a veggie for Moz. I stand by that being odd.

[naranjito]

Prawns are creatures too... where do you draw the line? Clearly, yeast are ok to eat... would you eat a bug?

I used to kill wasps with my newspaper. I don't anymore.

[vicarinatutugal]

This is about the fourth time you have told us what Morrissey would think.
Do you have inside information?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

If you think carnivores are the most evil thing in the world then there is obviously no reasoning with you.

I have stated my case:

- a veggie lifestyle is not for me, and while it left me morally quite smug (which is an area you seem comfortable inhabiting;)) it also left me starving hungry and miserable.
- I did not try to become a veggie for Moz. I stand by that being odd.


have a smiley guys, http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j173/E_HILLMAN/troll.gif

[naranjito]

If you think carnivores are the most evil thing in the world then there is obviously no reasoning with you.

I have stated my case:

- a veggie lifestyle is not for me, and while it left me morally quite smug (which is an area you seem comfortable inhabiting;)) it also left me starving hungry and miserable.
- I did not try to become a veggie for Moz. I stand by that being odd.

I don't think carnivores are evil, but I think that killing animals is very bad. And you are contributing to it.

[dom]

This is what Morrissey has to say on the matter:

Its not natural, normal or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of murder

Meat is not murder.

[stephk817]

yep i think it goes without saying. if you're a carnivore then morrissey, if he knew you, would never have any respect for you as a person.

oh and you're a better person so anyone would like you better.

This isn't about knowing Morrissey but being a fan. Fans buy his albums and go to his concerts. People should not be basing important life decisions on the opinions of a celebrity, even Morrissey. Use your brain to gather information and make an informed decision that is right for you.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Meat is not murder.

What is murder is the commodification of creatures' lives, and the complete lack of respect for their feelings- and even their dignity. Factory farming is a low in human civilization.

[naranjito]

This isn't about knowing Morrissey but being a fan. Fans buy his albums and go to his concerts. People should not be basing important life decisions on the opinions of a celebrity, even Morrissey. Use your brain to gather information and make an informed decision that is right for you.

The best decision for everyone is to stop eating meat.

[Kilt Uncle]

Can't we have a debate without people threatening that you could live to over 100 years old. What would be the point?

I've been veggie for nearly 15 years but i was nearly reaching for the bacon after reading that..:)

And as a Veggie i can say that i'm not a very nice person at all!

[naranjito]

I have a dog and a tortoise and a canary as pets.

[dom]

What is murder is the commodification of creatures' lives, and the complete lack of respect for their feelings- and even their dignity. Factory farming is a low in human civilization.

That's 'poor treatment' of animals. Murder in my book is only when a human kills another human on purpose.

[dizzywhore_1804]

Can't we have a debate without people threatening that you could live to over 100 years old. What would be the point?

I've been veggie for nearly 15 years but i was nearly reaching for the bacon after reading that..:)

And as a Veggie i can say that i'm not a very nice person at all!

This is actually the best post in this entire thread :p

LOVE it!

[naranjito]

I'd like to live to be 100 years old. It means you get a letter from the queen.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I have a dog and a tortoise and a canary as pets.

Then I will argue with you on that point. I don't believe that any animals aside from dogs and cats are suitable for pets. I hate to think of all those tortoises and lizards in little glass boxes, eating the same old crickets over and over again.

[naranjito]

That's 'poor treatment' of animals. Murder in my book is only when a human kills another human on purpose.

Murder is taking another living beings life. So you are wrong.

[dom]

The best decision for everyone is to stop eating meat.

How can you say that? I am a practasing Christian. I'm sure you woudl be well pissed off if i said to you 'The best decision for everyone is to start believing in Jesus' You would feel totally patronised. Yes, Christians say this, and they shouldn't. Neither should vegetarians say what you've just said!

[naranjito]

Then I will argue with you on that point. I don't believe that any animals aside from dogs and cats are suitable for pets. I hate to think of all those tortoises and lizards in little glass boxes, eating the same old crickets over and over again.

My tortoise walks about free in my garden and then sleeps for most of the year.

[naranjito]

How can you say that? I am a practasing Christian. I'm sure you woudl be well pissed off if i said to you 'The best decision for everyone is to start believing in Jesus' You would feel totally patronised. Yes, Christians say this, and they shouldn't. Neither should vegetarians say what you've just said!

Religious people are not very nice.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

I'd like to live to be 100 years old. It means you get a letter from the queen.

Dear Steven,


(sorry Karin)

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

My tortoise walks about free in my garden and then sleeps for most of the year.

That's good to hear. And your canary?

[justme]

I'd like to live to be 100 years old. It means you get a letter from the queen.

LOL!! :D Moz...is that you?? :P:D:D

[dom]

Murder is taking another living beings life. So you are wrong.

I dont believe killing an animal is murder, becuase, again, as a Christian, i believe God put animals on the earth to feed and clothe us. They are there to give us part of our diet and nutrition. There are vegetarian alternatives for a human diet, but NOTHING in vegetarian food gives us what meat gives us, i can't remmber the vitamin or chemical, but there is one element of it that is really important for us as humans to have.

[Danny_]

Anyone who tries to argue that Morrissey wouldn't like or respect you just because you eat meat is an idiot.

Not only is it a pathetic argument to use in favour of vegetarianism, it is also inaccurate.

He seems to have a hell of a lot of respect for Boz and Nancy Sinatra. Maybe he's not as tunnel visioned as you.

[naranjito]

That's good to hear. And your canary?

My other canary used to be hand tamed so he would be out of his cage for most of the day. Sometimes he would sit on my shoulder like a parrot. But he died. My new canary isn't hand tamed yet so he is a bit frightened of coming out the cage. But I think he will soon.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

LOL!! :D Moz...is that you?? :P:D:D

You know what? Shut up. What if it is him? You want to ruin it for him? Let the guy have some fun.

For the record, I don't believe it's him.

[dom]

Religious people are not very nice.

Thanks for that!

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

My other canary used to be hand tamed so he would be out of his cage for most of the day. Sometimes he would sit on my shoulder like a parrot. But he died. My new canary isn't hand tamed yet so he is a bit frightened of coming out the cage. But I think he will soon.

Ok- most pets don't get out of their cages much. I'm glad to hear you are good with yours.

Oh, and sorry to hear about your former Canary.

[justme]

You know what? Shut up. What if it is him? You want to ruin it for him? Let the guy have some fun.

For the record, I don't believe it's him.

Christ! I was Joking!! :eek::eek:

[dizzywhore_1804]

This is what Morrissey has to say on the matter:

Its not natural, normal or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of murder

Well, until someone has bought me the head of Elton John, or decapitated Margaret Thatcher then you can never be a true fan.
After all, he said it.

And don't even DARE to go to Canada!

:D

[naranjito]

Thanks for that!

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

[westendgirl]

Christ! I was Joking!! :eek::eek:

:D This thread is a hoot! :D continue....

[dom]

Well, until someone has bought me the head of Elton John, or decapitated Margaret Thatcher then you can never be a true fan.
After all, he said it.

And don't even DARE to go to Canada!

:D

Somebody did de-capitate Marg Thatch, didnt they, that statue with her and her handbag! I wonder if they were a Smiths fan!

[westendgirl]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

what about those that don't believe they will go to heaven or feel the need to impress God? What's their deal then?

[dizzywhore_1804]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

Whereas impressing Morrissey has much more worth!!

(I'm not religious by the way, I see the nonsense in most things)

[Dave]

I thought it was ok to eat prawns, but then I remembered that it's not good.

How could you forget "Sea life yes, sea food no"?

[vicarinatutugal]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

vegetetarians only pretend not to eat animals when no one are around they go to macdonalds and stick bits of ham in their cheese butties, its true! I know a veggie that does that.. and you know if you eat a prawn Morrissey won't let you within a 100 yards of him. :eek:

[Dave]

I dont believe killing an animal is murder, becuase, again, as a Christian, i believe God put animals on the earth to feed and clothe us. They are there to give us part of our diet and nutrition. There are vegetarian alternatives for a human diet, but NOTHING in vegetarian food gives us what meat gives us, i can't remmber the vitamin or chemical, but there is one element of it that is really important for us as humans to have.

I thought God put Mommies on the earth to feed and clothe us.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

You're jumping from controversy to controversy.

I think people are religious, in part, out of fear. Psychologically, it's a way of being taken care of- parented, almost. It's a deep-seated need most people have. I don't.

[stephk817]

The best decision for everyone is to stop eating meat.

Not for me due health reasons. I have tried going veggie and the severe reactive hypoglycemia always comes back with a vengeance. I ate healthy whole foods, not the junk foods by the way. I'm not living with spiking blood sugar, migraine headaches, mood swings, serious depression and a myriad of other problems. Before you go off on me, I have studied nutrition, and worked with two PhD. dietitians while in college. People with severe reactive hypoglycemia, like me, need more protein, very few carbohydrates and a sufficient amount of healthy fats.

Like I said, each person should gather all information available, weed out the propaganda, listen to their own bodies and use that as a means of making an informed decision.

[westendgirl]

vegetetarians only pretend not to eat animals when no one are around they go to macdonalds and stick bits of ham in their cheese butties, its true! I know a veggie that does that.. and you know if you eat a prawn Morrissey won't let you within a 100 yards of him. :eek:

that's gross....Mcdonald's...yuck. Even when I did eat meat, I could stand the fakeness in their food. :sick:

[vicarinatutugal]

^^that's gross! McDonald's....yuck.

I was being facetious westie...

[naranjito]

vegetetarians only pretend not to eat animals when no one are around they go to macdonalds and stick bits of ham in their cheese butties, its true! I know a veggie that does that.. and you know if you eat a prawn Morrissey won't let you within a 100 yards of him. :eek:

I didn't eat the prawn I just chewed a bit on its tail.

[dom]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

Cool. More general swooping statements from you. I'm not sure if i can respect where you are coming from anymore on this vegetarian angle. You have just generalised an entire group of people, including myself. You havent even bothered to ask ME how i believe in God or about being nice. Well, even though you're not interested in what i have to say about my own faith i'll tell you anyway.

I do not PRETEND to be nice, i try and be as nice as everybody else. I make mistakes like everybody else. I love and hurt like everybody else. I try and ask forvigeness form someone when i hurt them...I am selfish like everyboy else, i also just HAPPEN to beleive in God. That does not make me any less of a caring person than anyone else, and certainly does not mean that i PRETEND to be nice. Equally, many vegetarians try and be nice, and Meat eaters also try and be nice.

[vicarinatutugal]

that's gross....Mcdonald's...yuck. Even when I did eat meat, I could stand the fakeness in their food. :sick:

I replied to your other comment... I actually thought it was clear I was taking the piss.

[Dave]

that's gross....Mcdonald's...yuck. Even when I did eat meat, I could stand the fakeness in their food. :sick:

I was going to tell you that fakeness isn't a word, but I googled it first.

[westendgirl]

I replied to your other comment... I actually thought it was clear I was taking the piss.

sorry didn't see it. :p Ignore the comment then

[vicarinatutugal]

I didn't eat the prawn I just chewed a bit on its tail.

thats still disgusting, evil in fact, that poor prawn died and you chewed its tail. :tears:

[naranjito]

Not for me due health reasons. I have tried going veggie and the severe reactive hypoglycemia always comes back with a vengeance. I ate healthy whole foods, not the junk foods by the way. I'm not living with spiking blood sugar, migraine headaches, mood swings, serious depression and a myriad of other problems. Before you go off on me, I have studied nutrition, and worked with two PhD. dietitians while in college. People with severe reactive hypoglycemia, like me, need more protein, very few carbohydrates and a sufficient amount of healthy fats.

Like I said, each person should gather all information available, weed out the propaganda, listen to their own bodies and use that as a means of making an informed decision.

Yes but most people can stop eating meat. They just don't because they are selfish.

[westendgirl]

I was going to tell you that fakeness isn't a word, but I googled it first.

then please gimme an alternative...cuz I don't feel like using my brain atm. :D


let me say then - "It has a taste of being fake" better? :p

[vicarinatutugal]

sorry didn't see it. :p Ignore the comment then

lol I try to avoid these veggie/meat eating discussions at the best of times but when its trolling I really do, could not help it this time. Anyway all enjoy your arguing or whatever, see you later.

[Kilt Uncle]

@ dizzywhore_1804 - Thank you.

Meat is Murder came out in 1985 and i didn't give up until 1993 and i think it's important to take on board what others say but it's more important not to be a follower and decide what to do after you've thought it through. Independence of mind is very important these days.

I'll keep the bacon roll for my death bed along with Two sisters, (not MY sisters) a shemale, a dead budgie that died from natural causes and a concoction of drugs that would make Pete Docherty faint at the mere suggestion!

Meat is Manslaughter.

[naranjito]

Cool. More general swooping statements from you. I'm not sure if i can respect where you are coming from anymore on this vegetarian angle. You have just generalised an entire group of people, including myself. You havent even bothered to ask ME how i believe in God or about being nice. Well, even though you're not interested in what i have to say about my own faith i'll tell you anyway.

I do not PRETEND to be nice, i try and be as nice as everybody else. I make mistakes like everybody else. I love and hurt like everybody else. I try and ask forvigeness form someone when i hurt them...I also, just HAPPEN to beleive in God. That does not make me any less of a caring person than anyone else, and certainly does not mean that i PRETEND to be nice. Equally, many vegetarians try and be nice, and Meat eaters also try and be nice.

Not eating meat is more of a worthwhile cause than going to church and reading a book.

[westendgirl]

thats still disgusting, evil in fact, that poor prawn died and you chewed its tail. :tears:

I agree. Even if I were really hungry I wouldn't do it. Don't like seafood/life anyways.

[vicarinatutugal]

then please gimme an alternative...cuz I don't feel like using my brain atm. :D


let me say then - "It has a taste of being fake" better? :p

hmm processed? synthetic, whatever about MacDs they do the best milk shakes and apple pies. :p

[Amy]

Religious people only pretend to be nice so that they will be rewarded in heaven. They only do it to impress god.

You are either pitifully ignorant, or trolling. Also - why should you being a vegetarian make you a better fan? Just because he is? Your statements are unsupported, uneducated and biased and you are making yourself sound like a fool.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

hmm processed? synthetic, whatever about MacDs they do the best milk shakes and apple pies. :p

their shakes do rule. good point.

[vicarinatutugal]

You are either pitifully ignorant, or trolling. Also - why should you being a vegetarian make you a better fan? Just because he is? Your statements are unsupported, uneducated and biased and you are making yourself sound like a fool.

well said Amy.

[Amy]

Not eating meat is more of a worthwhile cause than going to church and reading a book.

That's only your opinion, mastermind :rolleyes:. To someone who has faith, that faith is far more important than their diet could ever be.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

their shakes do rule. good point.

They are frozen coffee creamer... ick. But whatever.

Burger King sells a veggie burger that's yummy.

[naranjito]

You are either pitifully ignorant, or trolling. Also - why should you being a vegetarian make you a better fan? Just because he is? Your statements are unsupported, uneducated and biased and you are making yourself sound like a fool.


:angry:

[westendgirl]

hmm processed? synthetic, whatever about MacDs they do the best milk shakes and apple pies. :p

yeah good words. :)

Oh that I DO agree with you on. the shakes are yummy. wish I liked apple pie. :(

[westendgirl]

They are frozen coffee creamer... ick. But whatever.

Burger King sells a veggie burger that's yummy.

Do they really...? I should go to Burger King and try it...

[Dave]

I like cheese. I didn't realize that male calves were killed so I could have a quesadilla.

But the other day I was out of cheese, and I grilled a tortilla and put avacado instead of cheese, and it was great. I also put some sprouts and salsa.

Since I switched from coffee to tea I don't use much milk, because I don't like tea with milk. But I don't know what to put on my cheerios. One day I was out of milk and I just ate cheerios dry with my tea, but they were a little rough going down.

I've never tried soy milk. But then I read that they are clearing the rainforest to grow soy. Where does it stop?

I put honey in my tea and I wonder if bees are exploited. It seems like it would be hard to exploit a bee, but I don't know.

[naranjito]

They are frozen coffee creamer... ick. But whatever.

Burger King sells a veggie burger that's yummy.

I had a bean burger at McDonalds once.

[dom]

Not eating meat is more of a worthwhile cause than going to church and reading a book.

Huh? That wasn't my point :confused: My Point was you generalising me as a Christian, which probably explains why you generalise meat eaters in the way you do. You're way of discussion leads me to believe you're quite young, or just plain thick, cos you're arguments suck, and give no way of a conversation either way. It's just narrow minded stereotype.

Again, your answer here has nothing to do with what i just said perviously.

[vicarinatutugal]

:angry:

lol you always use that one! here is one back at you!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t101/Ctb29resonate/Smiley%20Hive/SmileyFinger53.gif http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/2route/smileys/angry-smiley-009.gif

[Amy]

:angry:

What a wonderfully eloquent attempt at justifying yourself.

[naranjito]

Huh? That wasn't my point :confused: My Point was you generalising me as a Christian, which probably explains why you generalise meat eaters in the way you do. You're way of discussion leads me to believe you're quite young, or just plain thick, cos you're arguments suck, and give no way of a conversation either way. It's just narrw minded stereotype.

Again, your answer here has nothing to do with what i just said perviously.

Why are you a christian?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I had a bean burger at McDonalds once.

In which country? Not here. I live 20 miles from McD's corporate headquarters.

[Dave]

Do they really...? I should go to Burger King and try it...

no, it's really not very good. it does fill you up though, because it's a grease bomb. I like veggie burgers but they have to be really crispy brown to be good, and burger king's aren't. soggy and soft.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

who's minding the bridge?

[Amy]

Huh? That wasn't my point :confused: My Point was you generalising me as a Christian, which probably explains why you generalise meat eaters in the way you do. You're way of discussion leads me to believe you're quite young, or just plain thick, cos you're arguments suck, and give no way of a conversation either way. It's just narrow minded stereotype.

Again, your answer here has nothing to do with what i just said perviously.

I agree. I am a Christian too, and the best response I have yet from that poster is an angry smiley.

[naranjito]

What a wonderfully eloquent attempt at justifying yourself.

I don't need to justify myself. Not only is eating meat very bad to animals, it is also not healthy for you. Religion on the other hand is just a bunch of fairytales.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

no, it's really not very good. it does fill you up though, because it's a grease bomb. I like veggie burgers but they have to be really crispy brown to be good, and burger king's aren't. soggy and soft.

The one I had was crispy and good.

[westendgirl]

no, it's really not very good. it does fill you up though, because it's a grease bomb. I like veggie burgers but they have to be really crispy brown to be good, and burger king's aren't. soggy and soft.

awww, nevermind then. They are nasty when soggy. And greasy, no thanks.

[Amy]

Why are you a christian?

What has that to do with anything? Faith is something you either have, or you don't. You can't force it, and you don't 'choose' to have it, as such.

[westendgirl]

The one I had was crispy and good.

Maybe I should go to your McD's then.

[naranjito]

What has that to do with anything? Faith is something you either have, or you don't. You can't force it, and you don't 'choose' to have it, as such.

You're getting confused with skin colour I think.

[Dave]

I don't need to justify myself. Not only is eating meat very bad to animals, it is also not healthy for you. Religion on the other hand is just a bunch of fairytales.

maybe, but it's very important who has the best fairytale

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Maybe I should go to your McD's then. No, BK. :)

maybe, but it's very important who has the best fairytale A lie is a lie is a lie...

[Amy]

I don't need to justify myself. Not only is eating meat very bad to animals, it is also not healthy for you. Religion on the other hand is just a bunch of fairytales.

Again, how eloquent. Have you ever considered, there might be people in this world who have values and beliefs which are different to your own? I cannot explain your lack of faith, anymore than I can explain my strength of faith. It is something within you.

[Dave]

The one I had was crispy and good.

could be the one I go to is just not that great. I used to sometimes eat there because it is next to where I work. I walk a couple of blacks now and get a veggie lasagna that is excellent.

[stephk817]

I agree. I am a Christian too, and the best response I have yet from that poster is an angry smiley.

It's picture. ;)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/stephk817/smilies/troll_2.jpg

[Amy]

You're getting confused with skin colour I think.

No, I'm not.

[westendgirl]

No, BK. :)


Ohh, sorry! :D I was not paying attention to what I was typing. :p

[dom]

Why are you a christian?

I'm a Christian beause on the 24th of August in the year 2000 i was at a retreat that i was kind of half forced to go to. I sang a song called 'show your power' and i sang it so i meant it, to see what God would do. I asked him to show his power. In that second i felt loved so much, and i believed it was God. I still find things tough, and i still make mistakes. I haven't grown a new body or grown wings. I'm just me, and i always TRY an be a nice person. So, you saying that i just PRETEND to be nice is completely insulting. I'm no differnent. And it's equally insulting to tell a meat eater that they are less of good person for not eating meat.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

It's picture. ;)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/stephk817/smilies/troll_2.jpg

seriously, who's minding the bridge?

[Amy]

It's picture. ;)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b167/stephk817/smilies/troll_2.jpg

*lol* :D

[Amy]

I just wasted my 3000th post :(

[naranjito]

I'm a Christian beause on the 24th of August in the year 2000 i was at a retreat that i was kind of half forced to go to. I sang a song called 'show your power' and i sang it so i meant it, to see what God would do. I asked him to show his power. In that second i felt loved so much, and i believed it was God. I still find things tough, and i still make mistakes. I haven't grown a new body or grown wings. I'm just me, and i always TRY an be a nice person. So, you saying that i just PRETEND to be nice is completely insulting. I'm no differnent. And it's equally insulting to tell a meat eater that they are less of good person for not eating meat.

Do you think killing animals is a nice thing?

[Dave]

No, BK. :)

A lie is a lie is a lie...

well, I was just playing about fairytales. I think that religion is a way to understand our place in the universe and it's different for different people. I don't consider it a fairytale though. I think there is a greater truth in a lot of mythology, but that very complex ideas are simplified so that we can grasp them.

I think religion is used to tell lies, but I don't think being religious means believing a lie.

the idea of caring about animals is a religious idea, but that's just my opinion. I think ethics and morality are connected to religion or spiritual beliefs. otherwise, who cares if something or someone else suffers? we care because we are all part of something greater. in my opinion.

[naranjito]

In which country? Not here. I live 20 miles from McD's corporate headquarters.

In England.

[Dave]

I just wasted my 3000th post :(

have a cookie?

[dom]

I just wasted my 3000th post :(

Oh noooo! And on such a narrow minded poster! lol. Thanks for your support. Beliefs in meat eating and fox hunting get people irate, religious beliefs get people LIVID! lol

[naranjito]

I like the film: The Life of Brian.

[Dave]

I like the film: The Life of Brian.

I had a friend named Brian. I wonder what he's doing right now?

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

I had a friend named Brian. I wonder what he's doing right now?

I know a Brian.I wonder if it is the same person?

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I like the film: The Life of Brian.

I had a friend named Brian. I wonder what he's doing right now?

I know a Brian.I wonder if it is the same person?

It could be my brother-in-law. He's from Indiana.

[Dave]

I know a Brian.I wonder if it is the same person?

he used to have long hair and ride a skateboard but now he cut it and teaches school?

[Amy]

Oh noooo! And on such a narrow minded poster! lol. Thanks for your support. Beliefs in meat eating and fox hunting get people irate, religious beliefs get people LIVID! lol

No problem :) I despise people insulting others' faith.

I like the film: The Life of Brian.

Now I know you are a troll.

'The Life of Brian' is quite funny in places, I think. Were you expecting Dom and myself to be up in arms? :p no such luck.


"And what about you? Do you find it.... risible?!" :D

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

It could be my brother-in-law. He's from Indiana.

no, that's not him.

he used to have long hair and ride a skateboard but now he cut it and teaches school?

well,maybe. what color hair?

[naranjito]

I like to save animals more than saving Africans.

[dom]

Do you think killing animals is a nice thing?

Many of them are cetrainly not killed in a nice way, no. Worse still is the Hallal butcherys, where they have to, religiously, slit the cows thorat and let it scamper around in its own blood till it dies.

Maybe people should actually see for themselves. This video did shock me, and whenever i see videos showing horific death of animals it doesn effect me, but it doesnt stop me eating meat, even after watching this video

WANING - VIEWER DISCRETION - MAY SHOCK -WANING - VIEWER DISCRETION - MAY SHOCK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXx_ocntl6o

I think that animals should be killed quicker than this, certainly.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I like to save animals more than saving Africans.

Many of them are cetrainly not killed in a nice way, no. Worse still is the Hallal butcherys, where they have to, religiously, slit the cows thorat and let it scamper around in its own blood till it dies.

Ooh... let me go make some popcorn! This is going to be fun!

[Everyday I Like Sundae]

It is really quite simple.

I am a vegetarian. I don't care if others choose to eat meat. I will not try to persuade them to be vegetarian because I respect their right to choose.

I have made my choice and my non-veggie friends respect that and do not try to persuade me to eat meat.

No problem.

I don't think I'm a particularly good Moz fan anyway. My favourite Moz song is "You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side" and I prefer Nancy Sinitra's version of "Let Me Kiss You".

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

Ooh... let me go make some popcorn! This is going to be fun!

i might go on a beer run. jerky anyone? just kidding.:D

[dom]

i might go on a beer run. jerky anyone? just kidding.:D

HAH HA! You pillock :D I can't stand jerky myself. They should ban it! :D

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

OK, question for the vegetarians...

I keep seeing all these "faux-meat" products. I just bought some non-meat meatballs at Trader Joe's, I figured once they are slathered in marinara, my kids won't know the difference. But I'm a little conflicted about buying products meant to imitate meat. Why would I want to pretend I'm eating meat?

Do you eat these "fakes?" What do you think of them?

[dom]

I like to save animals more than saving Africans.

THAT i can never agree with. A human is worth a MILLION times more than any animal. Yea, we should protect our animals, and if i was asked to nurse a poorly one, i would do so in an instant, but if i were to hear of a dying child at the same time, i'm over to the dying child in a second. Not cos i'm a great person particularly, but cos it's a human, and so am i.

[naranjito]

I think that animals should be killed quicker than this, certainly.

I don't think animals should be killed at all.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

THAT i can never agree with. A human is worth a MILLION times more than any animal. Yea, we should protect our animals, and if i was asked to nurse a poorly one, i would do so in an instant, but if i were to hear of a dying child at the same time, i'm over to the dying child in a second. Not cos i'm a great person particularly, but cos it's a human, and so am i.

Why? Animals aren't destroying the earth and killing each other over nothing but stupid grudges. Animals only kill what they actually need to survive. The earth would be so much better off without us... and the thing is, we should know better. I can't tell you how many people I know who, when I tell them I'm vegetarian, say things like, "I know I shouldn't eat meat, but... I just try not to think about the animals." I thought that way for a long time myself, until I realized that if I had a belief, I needed to stand up for it. People just draw this imaginary, completely arbitrary line between themselves and non-human animals, and call it murder on one side and food on the other.

[naranjito]

A human is worth a MILLION times more than any animal.


Why do you look down on animals as if they are inferior. They are not. I like animals more than humans.

[dom]

OK, question for the vegetarians...

I keep seeing all these "faux-meat" products. I just bought some non-meat meatballs at Trader Joe's, I figured once they are slathered in marinara, my kids won't know the difference. But I'm a little conflicted about buying products meant to imitate meat. Why would I want to pretend I'm eating meat?

Do you eat these "fakes?" What do you think of them?

A friend of mine cant eat meat cos she used to have a form of guillem barrie. She cant digest meat. She likes these products cos she misses meat, but for vegetarians who are vegetarians out of choice, yea, a bit wierd i'd say to PRETEND to be eating meat. Really good point. Hadn't thought of that.

[naranjito]

It is really quite simple.

I am a vegetarian. I don't care if others choose to eat meat. I will not try to persuade them to be vegetarian because I respect their right to choose.

I have made my choice and my non-veggie friends respect that and do not try to persuade me to eat meat.

No problem.

I don't think I'm a particularly good Moz fan anyway. My favourite Moz song is "You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side" and I prefer Nancy Sinitra's version of "Let Me Kiss You".

I think you should try to persuade your friends because you might succeed. You never know.

[Amy]

THAT i can never agree with. A human is worth a MILLION times more than any animal. Yea, we should protect our animals, and if i was asked to nurse a poorly one, i would do so in an instant, but if i were to hear of a dying child at the same time, i'm over to the dying child in a second. Not cos i'm a great person particularly, but cos it's a human, and so am i.

It's a troll, pet.

I like animals more than humans.

Where have we heard that before :rolleyes:

[dom]

I don't think animals should be killed at all.

Obviously you do, cos you are vegetarian! Lol! :p

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

It's a troll, pet.



Where have we heard that before :rolleyes:

steven?

[naranjito]

Obviously you do, cos you are vegetarian! Lol! :p

Do you have pets? I think people who have pets might become vegetarians because they like animals.

[vAndreav]

OK, question for the vegetarians...

I keep seeing all these "faux-meat" products. I just bought some non-meat meatballs at Trader Joe's, I figured once they are slathered in marinara, my kids won't know the difference. But I'm a little conflicted about buying products meant to imitate meat. Why would I want to pretend I'm eating meat?

Do you eat these "fakes?" What do you think of them?

They can be a good substitute for people who may get those old cravings for something with the texture or taste of meat and are good for many people who just became vegetarian/vegan. I have a few vegan restaurants near me which have excellent faux meat products like chicken fingers with ranch dressing, theyre soo tasty! But I've been vegan for a few years now and I've strayed away from those products - too much wheat and soy protein. I'll have it sometimes when I go out to eat. However, many meat eaters who Ive taken to these restaurants are weirded out by the fact that these products are sometimes called meat, even though they may be labelled as "chicken" or "beef" with the apostrophes like that. But i think its ok because it just gives you an idea of what its kind of "supposed" to be you know?

But its kind of funny because Ive taken a few meat eating friends to these places and a few of them didn't know it was an all vegan place and ordered orange chicken and they didnt believe me when i said its not real chicken!

PS: how did the kids react to the "meat balls"? :D

[dom]

Why do you look down on animals as if they are inferior. They are not. I like animals more than humans.

They are inferior, cos they dont have a soul. But here we go again on the whole religious thing. It's my belief, and that's just it. I beleive we have a soul that goes to heaven. i believe animals have a 'spirit' which is what animates them, but not a soul. I believe we were made by God in his image, and animals aren't. Is just my belief.

[westendgirl]

steven?

....:D

how many times will this thread run in circles?? Any bets? :D

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

A friend of mine cant eat meat cos she used to have a form of guillem barrie. She cant digest meat. She likes these products cos she misses meat, but for vegetarians who are vegetarians out of choice, yea, a bit wierd i'd say to PRETEND to be eating meat. Really good point. Hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, it's just really strange to see fake bacon on the store shelves. I don't want to eat bacon, and I don't want to eat fake bacon. Veggie burgers and black bean burgers are good, though. They're actually tastier than beef.

[dom]

Why? Animals aren't destroying the earth and killing each other over nothing but stupid grudges. Animals only kill what they actually need to survive. The earth would be so much better off without us... and the thing is, we should know better. I can't tell you how many people I know who, when I tell them I'm vegetarian, say things like, "I know I shouldn't eat meat, but... I just try not to think about the animals." I thought that way for a long time myself, until I realized that if I had a belief, I needed to stand up for it. People just draw this imaginary, completely arbitrary line between themselves and non-human animals, and call it murder on one side and food on the other.

As far as i know, a child (which was the type of human i was refering to helping) has never destroyed the earth or killed someone. lol ;-) A choice between a sick animal or a sick child is not a hard decision for me to make at all. The child, every time, every second.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

PS: how did the kids react to the "meat balls"? :D

We're not having them tonight, we're having veggie potstickers and veggie fried rice. :D

I hope everyone is still around when I'm done with dinner... this is fun. I'll be back later.

[vAndreav]

Well just because youre vegetarian or vegan doesnt mean you are because you dont like meat. I know many veggies/vegans who love the taste of meat (of course, after its been seasoned and all the good stuff) but dont eat if for sake of the animals and other beliefs. So i think the substitutes are great for those who want them. Plus, it makes it easier when asked "So what do you eat??":confused::confused: :p

[dom]

Yeah, it's just really strange to see fake bacon on the store shelves. I don't want to eat bacon, and I don't want to eat fake bacon. Veggie burgers and black bean burgers are good, though. They're actually tastier than beef.

Yea, it's odd. But i would think its more for people with allergies or digestion problems. however, i know a few vegies very keen on the whole veggie breakfast :)

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

As far as i know, a child (which was the type of human i was refering to helping) has never destroyed the earth or killed someone. lol ;-) A choice between a sick animal or a sick child is not a hard decision for me to make at all. The child, every time, every second.

I agree. I've got a horribly sad true story about this, but I have to go eat. Maybe later.

[dom]

I agree. I've got a horribly sad true story about this, but I have to go eat. Maybe later.

Okie doke, enjoy you vegie meal :D :) I gotta go to bed soon. 1.26 am here. This thing is keeping me up laaaayytte! Still post your story though, would like to hear.

[stephk817]

Do you have pets? I think people who have pets might become vegetarians because they like animals.

My damn yellow lab makes me want to commit murder at least once a day. She's a naughty girl. :p

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

My damn yellow lab makes me want to commit murder at least once a day. She's a naughty girl. :p

how old is she?

[Amy]

steven?

yep...

[naranjito]

I have a maltese dog.

[dom]

[QUOTE=Amy;773338]It's a troll, pet.

lol, just saw that, heh heh :D

[Kilt Uncle]

Does it taste like maltesers?

[naranjito]

Does it taste like maltesers?

He likes yogurt

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

He likes yogurt

frozen yogurt?

[dom]

I like the film: The Life of Brian.

I LOVE the film Life Of Brian :)

[naranjito]

As far as i know, a child (which was the type of human i was refering to helping) has never destroyed the earth or killed someone. lol ;-) A choice between a sick animal or a sick child is not a hard decision for me to make at all. The child, every time, every second.

If it's a choice between my pets and someones elses child, I would take my pets every time.

[stephk817]

how old is she?

She's five, but basically still a puppy in her ways, a hundred pound puppy that is. She's the most lovable thing but STUBBORN.

[naranjito]

They are inferior, cos they dont have a soul. But here we go again on the whole religious thing. It's my belief, and that's just it. I beleive we have a soul that goes to heaven. i believe animals have a 'spirit' which is what animates them, but not a soul. I believe we were made by God in his image, and animals aren't. Is just my belief.

I think that if we die and we are to come back as animals, vegetarians will come back as better animals. People who eat meat will come back as rodents.

[dom]

Do you have pets? I think people who have pets might become vegetarians because they like animals.

I used to have a hampster and am living in a house with a puppy. It doesnt make me want to be a vegie, but i could imagine it inspiring some people, yea :)

[westendgirl]

frozen yogurt?

mmmm with fresh fruit on top!

[Dave]

OK, question for the vegetarians...

I keep seeing all these "faux-meat" products. I just bought some non-meat meatballs at Trader Joe's, I figured once they are slathered in marinara, my kids won't know the difference. But I'm a little conflicted about buying products meant to imitate meat. Why would I want to pretend I'm eating meat?

Do you eat these "fakes?" What do you think of them?

same as you. I do like veggie burgers a lot and they were introduced to me as a "substitute". I don't really pretend I'm having a hamburger when I have one though. It's just a good tasty spicy sandwich.

But products that imitate meat, like those weird crab
legs and things like tofurkey, I think are really strange and I don't eat them. If your kids like it I think it's fine though. It adds flavor and texture to your meal. I just eat spaghetti with different types of veggie sauces, and I eat it quite a bit, and like it, so I know the faux-meatballs aren't necessary but I don't see any harm, especially since it's keeping your kids happy.

[dom]

I think that if we die and we are to come back as animals, vegetarians will come back as better animals. People who eat meat will come back as rodents.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ! :D :D :D Oh my word. Cool! :rolleyes:

[Kilt Uncle]

What's wrong with being a rodent?

Less of the judgement unless you're religious..:)

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

What time is it in Rome?

[naranjito]

I used to have a hampster and am living in a house with a puppy. It doesnt make me want to be a vegie, but i could imagine it inspiring some people, yea :)


How would you like it if I came and slit your puppy's throat and cooked him in my oven?

[dom]

I think that if we die and we are to come back as animals, vegetarians will come back as better animals. People who eat meat will come back as rodents.

I think you'd come back as a worm :p

[stephk817]

What's wrong with being a rodent?

Less of the judgement unless you're religious..:)

There's a temple in India where they have the run of the place, even food preparation. :sick::sick::sick:

[dom]

How would you like it if I came and slit your puppies throat and cooked him in my oven?

I would not like it at all, actually, my housemate wouldn't like it, as the puppy is hers. I would be very upset, but then the next meal i'd eat that day would almost certainly contain meat, so...that scenario changes nothing to me eating meat or not :confused:

[westendgirl]

What time is it in Rome?

2:40 in the morning.

[Kilt Uncle]

And you get a Prime-time slot on GMTV back in the eighties...:)

[naranjito]

I want to get Morrissey's t-shirt that says I DON'T EAT MY FRIENDS on it.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

2:40 in the morning.

He's up late.

[westendgirl]

He's up late.

how do you know he's in Rome?

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

how do you know he's in Rome?

Good point. He does travel a bit.

[Kilt Uncle]

I wouldn't want to eat my friends either, they're smelly drunken Scottish people!

Even the thought...!

[dom]

I want to get Morrissey's t-shirt that says I DON'T EAT MY FRIENDS on it.

I want that one too. The images of eating some of my friends is just too funny. Many a laugh would be had with that in the bar :D

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I want to get Morrissey's t-shirt that says I DON'T EAT MY FRIENDS on it.

It's an old PETA one, isn't it? I think I saw it on their site, in the shop.


So anyway, I've had a child die, and I've had pets die, and if I were faced with Sophie's choice, I'd choose my child. But that's as it should be, and that would never happen anyway. That's it, that's the story. There are more details, but I'm not going into them.

Now, if the choice were my dog versus someone else's kid... :o

[naranjito]

I think you'd come back as a worm :p

I hope to come back as a lion.

[naranjito]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/bigpot6.jpg

:angry:

[naranjito]

I sometimes eat vegetarian food called Quorn, but I don't know if it's available in the USA or Australia

[mell]

I've been in meetings all afternoon and I've missed all of this?? :eek:
I love being vegetarian...whoo! And yes, it makes me a better Morrissey fan. :guitar:

What's the status of the cracked heels, mojito boy? I don't have time to read 11 pages.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I hope to come back as a lion.

Yeah, just in time to be poached and have your flesh wasted and your paws ground up for folk medicine and your skin turned into a rug. Might want to rethink that... unless humans manage to extinct themselves. (Can that properly be used as a verb? I just did.)

[naranjito]

sloganeering is silly, no? :D

You're silly for eating a toucan, a koala and a monkey.

[dom]

i can think of many things worse than coming back as Worm

So can i, i just didn't want to be harsh :)

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

I've been in meetings all afternoon and I've missed all of this?? :eek:
I love being vegetarian...whoo! And yes, it makes me a better Morrissey fan. :guitar:

What's the status of the cracked heels, mojito boy? I don't have time to read 11 pages.

he bought a machine. the one without the vacuum attatchment.

[naranjito]

Yeah, just in time to be poached and have your flesh wasted and your paws ground up for folk medicine and your skin turned into a rug. Might want to rethink that... unless humans manage to extinct themselves. (Can that properly be used as a verb? I just did.)

I think the best animal to come back is a dog because they sleep all day and do nothing. I like to do nothing.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I think the best animal to come back is a dog because they sleep all day and do nothing. I like to do nothing.

I think you might be onto something. My dogs live the life of Riley. Damn, now I've got that damn song in my head. You know that one?

[mell]

he bought a machine. the one without the vacuum attatchment.

Well I saw something earlier about dust from cracked heels....nasty! And then I got sucked into a meeting. Lots of drama at work. I can't believe it's made me miss all this Solo hysteria! Did Mojito boy talk about Morrissey's naked arse yet? :rolleyes:

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

Well I saw something earlier about dust from cracked heels....nasty! And then I got sucked into a meeting. Lots of drama at work. I can't believe it's made me miss all this Solo hysteria! Did Mojito boy talk about Morrissey's naked arse yet? :rolleyes:

not yet. give it time.

[mell]

I think the best animal to come back is a dog because they sleep all day and do nothing. I like to do nothing.

Ohh he's not who I thought he was because that person would have certainly said he'd rather be a cat. Right? Or is that too easy? :(

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Well I saw something earlier about dust from cracked heels....nasty! And then I got sucked into a meeting. Lots of drama at work. I can't believe it's made me miss all this Solo hysteria! Did Mojito boy talk about Morrissey's naked arse yet? :rolleyes:

No, but a friend who knows I like Morrissey just emailed me a link... as if I'd not yet seen it.

that much is self evident I said "onto something," not "ON something." :D

[dom]

is was a compliment, wasnt it?

Lol, wan't really anything, just the first animal i came up with. I have the countryside imprinted on my brain from childhood...and digging for worms etc :D :)

[naranjito]

I think Moby and Morrissey should get together and do a song about not killing animals.

[mell]

not yet. give it time.
:D I still can't believe I missed 11 whole pages of this. I feel like crying.

No, but a friend who knows I like Morrissey just emailed me a link... as if I'd not yet seen it.

HAHA seriously? Well I haven't circulated the picture amongst my friends yet, but I have verbally told all of them I saw Morrissey's naked ass. :D

[Kilt Uncle]

On second thoughts, just get Morrissey to do the song.

[naranjito]

http://www.viva.org.uk/goingveggie/top20.html

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

On second thoughts, just get Morrissey to do the song.

He already did. Haven't you heard it? :p

[naranjito]

Moby has a tea shop in New York which I have visited.

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Moby has a tea shop in New York which I have visited.

Really? Where is it?

[westendgirl]

Ohh he's not who I thought he was because that person would have certainly said he'd rather be a cat. Right? Or is that too easy? :(

it's all in the plot. :D ;)

[Corrissey]

Nope.

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

it's all in the plot. :D ;)

indeed. go ahead Steven.

[Kilt Uncle]

WHAT! Morrissey's a Veggie!!!

[bobalmighty]

I have tried, and failed to go vegetarian. I don't see why this makes me any less of a Moz fan however.

[westendgirl]

indeed. go ahead Steven.

yes, please. The floor is yours again. I've got my munchie's...ready for round four. :D

[dom]

Moby has a tea shop in New York which I have visited.

Heh heh. This thread is getting to the ambling off course stage. Watch out naranjito, or the powers that be will smack this bitch up into the 'off topic' forum! Nothing quite so degrading as having a thread demoted like that :D

Thanks for talking eventually naranjito, is much better when there is a two way thing going :)

Good night all, good afternoon to those in wakey areas of the world. Hate to leave this cos is one of best threads i've been in. I shall asses the remaining carnage when i awake.

I think in summary. Vegetarians are cool and more well built than most peopel who eat meat.

Moz is cool and sings great songs. His vegetarianism makes no difference in his quality of song writing, only in the content.

No, being vegetarian does not make you a better fan of Moz, as much as it does NOT make you better person (Hitler was a vegetarian as mentioned way way ago)

Chiao, Buenas Noches mi amigos!

[mell]

Sorry, this has nothing to do with mojito boy, but I ate at this all veggie take out place today (no meat items at all on their menu) and they had the most delicious kung pao "chicken." It was the best fake meat I've ever tasted. I honestly think I could eat at that restaurant every day.

[naranjito]

Really? Where is it?

Here is the website. https://www.teany.com/

[fridaynightinoutpatients]

yes, please. The floor is yours again. I've got my munchie's...ready for round four. :D

I have plenty of beer, and no life really.