Bring on the Rangers!

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Now that Boxing day is over.

[vicarinatutugal]

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/underthekilt/images/pics/p16a.jpg

[Buzzetta]

Now that Boxing day is over.

?
Hockey or Baseball?
http://www.hockeygoalies.org/bio/images/lundqvist.jpg
http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1610814dt.jpg

Or did you mean WALKER!?! The Legend of Chuck N?

http://www.freewebs.com/bizzoony/Chuck%20Norris.jpg

[Jukebox Jury]

Queens Park Rangers?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

[snapyou]

Queens Park Rangers?:confused:

Jukebox Jury

I would think so.Can't think of any other Rangers :p

[Skinner]

?
Hockey or Baseball?
http://www.hockeygoalies.org/bio/images/lundqvist.jpg
http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1610814dt.jpg

Or did you mean WALKER!?! The Legend of Chuck N?

http://www.freewebs.com/bizzoony/Chuck%20Norris.jpg

hahahahaha!!!! I was waiting for you to say something about the "Stinking Rangers" as I call them (being a Flyers fan!). But I did not expect Walker Texas Ranger. LOL!!!!

[Buzzetta]

hahahahaha!!!! I was waiting for you to say something about the "Stinking Rangers" as I call them (being a Flyers fan!). But I did not expect Walker Texas Ranger. LOL!!!!

Reminds me... I have to get to another game. The last one I went to was November 19th and the Rangers lost to the Islanders... Ridiculous.

Go Blue

[Kilt Uncle]

It is actually a wee while since Celtic have beaten Rangers, not since uncle Walter has returned me thinks..:)

Can you be friends with a Rangers supporter?..:)

[Morrissey the 23rd]

It is actually a wee while since Celtic have beaten Rangers, not since uncle Walter has returned me thinks..:)

Can you be friends with a Rangers supporter?..:)

Of course. I'm sure it's not your fault. You can always turn your back on the dark side.

[Kilt Uncle]

I've just been getting Irish history at college and learning about the Easter Rising and it's shocking what these Brits did. But i've been commited to the Blue cause since i was 5, so i can't change now...though if i knew then what i know now...:)

I reckon it'll be a draw anyway.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

I've just been getting Irish history at college and learning about the Easter Rising and it's shocking what these Brits did. But i've been commited to the Blue cause since i was 5, so i can't change now...though if i knew then what i know now...:)

I reckon it'll be a draw anyway.

I have a few friends who have told me similar stories. Just supporting Rangers doesn't make you a bad person. Just as supporting Celtic doesn't make you a good person. Together we can beat bigotry.

[Busy Clippers]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9130/ed330rangersmithjw1.jpg

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Billy Connolly-The Old Firm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6OwycDpfY

Billy Connolly - Football:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lngPw9dbQ

and:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ3IswHCZZw

Billy Connolly - Orangemen, The Sash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6NNxAQ2KA

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Celtic v Rangers game postponed as a mark of respect:

http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_311207125203.aspx

[Kilt Uncle]

Good to see after what's happened.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Chick Young makes sense for once:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7166136.stm

[Kilt Uncle]

He's right!

I thought it was amazing to see the way English football responded to his death. He was well known in Scotland, but wasn't exactly a household name in the UK as a whole, so the response by the English clubs was touching, even more so because it was unexpected.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

[QUOTE=Buzzetta;732843]?
Hockey or Baseball?
QUOTE]

Neither. Anti-football (REF:Lionel Messi).

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Only an Excuse Cadbury Gorilla:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4EJEgylYgM

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Only An Excuse Part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovadmHe_cbA

You can find parts 2 and 3 for yourself if you like part 1.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Clash of titans - BBC 37 min 59 sec - Oct 29, 2006:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5114189680714788190&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en

[lux girl]

Now that Boxing day is over.

What's Boxing Day??

[Kilt Uncle]

@ lux girl. I read somewhere that it originates back to Victorian times in England when after Christmas day, the servants would get the day off after christmas and get boxes from their masters.

Could have dreamt it though..:)

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Coelho jets in today:

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=242118464&p=z4zyy9y7x&t=soccer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=506013&in_page_id=1779

Hinkel arrives tomorrow.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Celtic seal deal for Sevilla ace Hinkel:
http://www.soccer365.com/european_news/story_4108204101.php

[mar2d2]

hahahahaha!!!! I was waiting for you to say something about the "Stinking Rangers" as I call them (being a Flyers fan!). But I did not expect Walker Texas Ranger. LOL!!!!

I'm surpriesed he didn't mention the ONLY AND TRUE RANGERS:
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/heat/450/zeo.jpg

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Especially for The judge:

Ako ne postaneš
novi prvak ti
Celtic boys če plakati
oprosti čemo ti
jer ipak znamo svi
da najbolji si ti
i nikad ti nečemo
okrenut leđa mi

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Dedicated Follower of Celtic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIByQ6MTLp4

Dedicated Follower of Rangers - 2007 Remix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXT1ya4BbPw

[Morrissey the 23rd]

They talk of men like Pele,
and the great Eusebio,
and even Stanley Matthews,
who played so long ago.
He's even aced the Belfast boy,
wee George was second best.
Not Johann Cruyff, not on your life
Wee jinky beats the rest.

I went down to Largs then, by the C L Y D E
Sure it was my intention to learn to water ski
I was up behind a speedboat but what was that I see
But Jinky in a rowing boat and he was passing me

Chorus

Overthere at Ibrox Park, against the Ger's he played,
John Greig and all his cronies, in bed they should have stayed
And then his 'Auld' pal Bertie got on his Knees and prayed
Saying 'Mother Mary you were right, in heavan wee Jinks was made'

Chorus

Away across in Lisbon, as the sun was beating down
Big Jock and all his Lions, they made Ferrera frown
Around the Milanese, wee Jink danced round and round,
until your man Faccheti was corkscrewed in the ground

Chorus

Against the mighty Yugoslavs, the pride of old Belgrade
Big Jock he praised wee Jinky, cos what a game he played
They couldnae get him on the plane, it was a fine to-do
Jink says 'I'll take my rowing boat if it's all the same to you'

Chorus

So come on raise your voices and everybody sing
of little Jimmy Johnstone, a wizard on the wing
He brought us Joy and magic, in the Celtics white and green
No doubt he was the finest theat the world has ever seen.

Chorus

A tribute to Celtic FC's Greatest ever player Jimmy Johnstone, as voted by the club's fans in 2002:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWdP75sChPc

Jimmy ' Jinky' Johnstone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mBY9Bz4uFA:

Jinky Tells A Wee Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gUgm2B7-aw

Celtic win the League Championship in 1967 against Rangers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL2YQxQhMRo

[Jukebox Jury]

Queens Park Rangers?

Jukebox Jury

I would think so.Can't think of any other Rangers

Stafford Rangers v Stalybridge Celtic??:confused::confused::confused::D

Jukebox Jury

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Stafford Rangers v Stalybridge Celtic??:confused::confused::confused::D

Jukebox Jury

tribalfooball.com - December 23, 2007:
Manchester City boss Sven Goran Eriksson is ready to bid for Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc.
The People says City will test Celtic's resolve next summer by offering keepers Joe Hart and Kasper Schmeichel to try and get Artur Boruc.

Test is over. Man city? Arsenal? AC Milan? Are you having a laugh?

Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc has ended speculation about his future by signing a contract extension that commits him to the club until 2011:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7173523.stm

[Jukebox Jury]

tribalfooball.com - December 23, 2007:
Manchester City boss Sven Goran Eriksson is ready to bid for Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc.
The People says City will test Celtic's resolve next summer by offering keepers Joe Hart and Kasper Schmeichel to try and get Artur Boruc.

Test is over. Man city? Arsenal? AC Milan? Are you having a laugh?

Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc has ended speculation about his future by signing a contract extension that commits him to the club until 2011:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7173523.stm

Tribal football?? more like Jackanory.com:D

You can have Kasper - our 3rd choice keeper - but very much doubt we will be offering the future England keeper to yourselves, but i dont blame you for dreaming:p

Jukebox Jury

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Tribal football?? more like Jackanory.com:D

You can have Kasper - our 3rd choice keeper - but very much doubt we will be offering the future England keeper to yourselves, but i dont blame you for dreaming:p

Jukebox Jury

That was one source. Here's another:
http://www.sportingo.com/football/arsenal_%C2%A310m_keeper_bid_van/1001,6079

You can offer Joe Hart and Kasper Schmeichel but they aren't needed at Celtic.

I hear Man city are after Afonso Alves too. He would maybe go to Man city and would be a great buy.

[Jukebox Jury]

That was one source. Here's another:
http://www.sportingo.com/football/arsenal_%C2%A310m_keeper_bid_van/1001,6079

You can offer Joe Hart and Kasper Schmeichel but they aren't needed at Celtic.

I hear Man city are after Afonso Alves too. He would maybe go to Man city and would be a great buy.

I dont need sources. I could quote a hundred sources from all kinds of media over the season, all reporting on how this player is wanted by this club and so on. They have pages to fill, so hey, dont let the truth get in the way of a good story - all of them nonsense and about as real as Everton's chances of winning the FA Cup this season:D

Jukebox Jury

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Oh ,Hampden in the Sun
Celtic 7 Rangers 1,
That was the score when it came time up,
The Timalloys had won the cup.
...
I see Tully running down the line,
He slips the ball past Valentine,
It's nodded down by 'Teazy Weazy',
And Sammy Wilson makes it look so easy.
...
Chorus
...
I see Mochan beating Shearer,
The League Cup is coming nearer.
He slams in an impossible shot,
The Rangers team has had their lot.
...
Chorus
...
Over comes a very high ball,
Up goes McPhail above them all,
The ball and Billy's head have met,
A lovely sight the ball is in the net.
...
Chorus
...
Young Sam Wilson has them rocked,
but unluckily his shot was blocked,
Then big Bill with a lovely lob,
Makes it look such an easy job.
...
Chorus
...
Now here is Mochan on the ball,
He runs around poor Ian McColl,
Wee George Niven takes a daring dive,
But Smiler Mochan makes it number five.
...
Chorus
...
Down the middle runs Billy McPhail,
With John Valentine on his tail,
With a shot along the ground,
The cup's at Parkhead safe and sound.
...
Chorus
...
Here comes Fernie, cool and slick,
He ambles up to take the kick,
He hits it hard and low past Niven,
The Tims are in their Seventh Heaven

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Murrays Press Poodles Lap Up Another 'Masterplan'
Written by Tuairim
Sunday, 06 January 2008
Someone wants to have a quiet word with David Murray. I mean really. Has hanging around with 007 really turned the man into Ernst Stavro Blofeld? There's no ugly facial scar and presumably the white cat only gets a stroking in the privacy of his undersea bunker. But if the Rangers chairman hasn't yet auditioned for a role made famous by Donald Pleasance and Tele Savalas, it's perhaps something he should consider. Murray's latest plans for world domination are right out of the plot of You only live Twice - and like the protagonist in that particular cinematic masterpiece - the cunning, ruthless and brilliant plan has been revealed to the world just a short time before it blows up in his face.


Does the man ever learn? Or more importantly, do the Scottish press? Is the lure of a free lamb dinner and a glass of the finest red really enough to dissolve any remaining shred of journalistic integrity possessed by the print media in this country? It was only a few short months ago that the plans to turn Ibrox into a Las Vegas-style Super casino, complete with hotels, entertainment complexes and a spanking new stadium - not to mention 2000 new jobs - were shelved forever. The grand proposals were launched under a fanfare of hype and publicity but the failure raised little more than an eyebrow when they inevitably bit the dust.

You have to give David Murray credit though. I mean the man can do no wrong. He walks on water. It doesn't matter that he steered Rangers to the brink of insolvency - a move only thwarted by the ridiculous revaluation of Ibrox. It makes no difference that he had to siphon £50m from his own parent company to plug the massive hole in Rangers accounts and ward off the bank. It doesn't matter that he had a seven year start on Fergus McCann, no stadium to build and still allowed Celtic to prosper and grow into the biggest and most successful club in Scotland. Sir David is a business genius and that's the end of it. Well sorry, but I beg to differ.

When the steel magnate purchased Rangers for just £6m in 1988, he acquired a club which – although just emerging from one of the most barren spells in its history – was built on relatively solid foundations and sound economics. But just over a decade later and despite significant outside investment from the likes of Dave King and Joe Lewis, Murray was perched precariously on the summit of £70m worth of final demands, staring blankly into the abyss. In 2004, the Ibrox chairman claimed he would ‘wipe out’ the club’s debt. Yet In 2008, despite the £55m rights issue and the sale of Rangers’ retail department to JJB - which included an initial cash injection of 18m - the clubs liabilities were touching 17m in July last year before any significant business was completed in the transfer market. That’s quite a feat when you think about it.

But it’s also understandable when you consider the nature of the empire which Murray holds the keys to. Rangers are an institution ingrained with a pompous and triumphalist mentality. They draw their strength from a well of anti catholic hatred and the notion that there is an inherent superiority between themselves and their Irish immigrant neighbours. When Glasgow won the rights to host the Commonwealth Games in 2014 - a move which will generate numerous benefits for the east end of Glasgow in particular and Celtic by extension - the Murray propaganda machine was clearly put into full swing.

Putting Timmy in their place has become the driving force behind Sir David’s time at the helm. There is a barely a signing Rangers make who didn't turn down Celtic. In the case of Scott Brown - or so Murray would claim - the Parkhead board were held to ransom and paid way over the odds - something Murray, for the first time in history it seems, refused to do. When Celtic announced a record breaking kit deal with Nike - Murray piped up to tell the Fenian upstarts that his deal with JJB was much, much better. In 1998, when Celtic Park was completed to become the biggest stadium in the UK, David could barely contain his anger before being talked out of a revamp of Ibrox by Dick Advocaat – who needed the money for Gabriel Amato, and Stephane Guiv'arch. When Celtic spent £6m on Chris Sutton to break the Scottish transfer record, Murray claimed he would spend a tenner for every fiver Celtic did. Months later Tore Andre Flo was brought to the club for £12m pounds - much to the hilarity of European football.

One audacious plan after another has been generated from the bowels of Ibrox in the last decade and few if any have done a single thing to move the club to this mythical ‘next level’ talked about by Ken Gallagher in his now infamous piece of pro-Rangers propaganda in March 2000. The investments by Dave King and Joe Lewis - which would make Rangers the great untouchables of Scottish Football as part of ‘Murray’s Blueprint’ - couldn't stop Martin O’Neill from cleaning up domestically and reaching the European final Murray and his momentous ego so desperately craved.

The Ready for the Future scheme, which required fans to stump up hundreds of pounds just to secure their own season tickets - and a fancy china plate - came and went. The link up with Australian club Northern Spirit - a move which would transform Rangers from a parochial Scottish football club to an internationally renowned brand - was barely mentioned after the ticker tape parade of publicity it received upon inception. The aforementioned Casino plans, the moonbeams promised with Paul Le Guen, the plan to sell Rangers youth players back to the club, the 10,000 seater reserve stadium complete with helipad, the conveyor belt of talent at Murray Park....the list is endless.

You could fill an encyclopedia with this type of Murray-esque bluster and nonsense. He's made an art form out of it and fair play to him. But that this latest pipe dream can't be seen for what it is - a sad little game of one-upmanship on the back of the scheme to regenerate the east end of Glasgow for the Commonwealth Games - is a damning indictment on the state of Sports Journalism in this country. The press poodles who hang onto the Rangers chairman's every word ought to be ashamed of themselves. They are a pack of nodding dogs waiting to be thrown a bone from the master's table. Like the Bond villains, the collapse of his latest scheme will do nothing to deter him – rest assured, the next cunning plan is already in the pipeline. But likes Zorin's balloon in a View to a Kill - it will be full of hot air

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Oh Willie Maley was his name,
He brought some great names to the game,
When he was the boss at Celtic Park.

Taught them how to play football,
He made the greatest of them all,
Gallagher and Quinn have left their mark.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way.

In '38 there was a show,
And Glasgow was the place to go,
A model of the Tower was football's prize.

England sent four of the best,
They didn't meet with much success,
Because the trophy ended up in Paradise.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way.

Well Coronation time was here,
Fifty three, that was the year,
Another four from England met their doom.

They said we'll have to try again,
But like before it was in vain,
Because the Cup is in the Parkhead trophy room.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way.

Well fourteen years had gone and so,
To Portugal we had to go,
To play the team that Italy adored.

Celtic went out to attack,
They won the Big Cup and they brought it back,
The first time it had been on British shores.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way.

Now 21 years to that day,
With pride, it's our Centenary,
And we're among the honours once again.

Six million pounds the huns did spend,
But Souness found it was in vain,
Because the Celtic are the Champions again.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way.

And now in 1995,
It feels good to be alive,
And we're about to celebrate again.

The fans all cry out for Pierre,
He rises up into the air,
And brings the Scottish Cup to Paradise.

And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay,
And most of the football greats,
Have passed through Parkhead's gates,
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way

[Morrissey the 23rd]

This Land is Your Land

This land is your land, this land is my land
From the northern highlands to the western islands
From the hills of Kerry to the streets of Free Derry
This land was made for you and me

(Chorus)

As I was walking by the Shannon water
Hand in hand with my little daughter
The church bells ringing, and the children singing
This land was made for you and me

(Chorus)

So I walked her home by the old church steeple
Proud of my country, proud of my people
Of the men who tried there, of the men who died there singing
This land is made for you and me

(Chorus)

Then I climbed a mountain, saw the crystal fountain
And heard a great roar from the rocky sea shore
Her eyes were gleaming, she cried oho Daddy
This land was made for you and me

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Short video of the Goals from the 19th of October 1957 Scottish Cup final when Celtic defeated Rangers by 7 goals to 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n7CxDwkaSo

[Grim O'Grady]

Short video of the Goals from the 19th of October 1957 Scottish Cup final when Celtic defeated Rangers by 7 goals to 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n7CxDwkaSo

eff me that 'Gers goal was a belter tho' eh?

love

Grim

[Morrissey the 23rd]

With a four leaf clover on my breast,
And the green and white upon my chest,
It’s such a joy for us to see,
For they play football the Celtic way.

VERSE

It’s been ten years, long time indeed,
We stood with pride and we took defeat,
Our beloved team, our ancient ground,
Has been rebuilt, a club reborn.

CHORUS

McCann he rode the winds of change,
And the things he brought will long remain,
A phoenix rising, a house of steel,
And 60,000 Celtic dreams.

CHORUS

The work is done and the stage is set,
The Celtic dream can now be met,
In a sea of dreams, we’re here today,
Lets sit and watch the Champions play.

[gasmeter]

Celtic or as they are known in these parts 'The lesser Greens '

Hibernian F.C 1st to wear the green

Celtic - taking Hibs rejects since 1888.

P.S can we have Riordan back ? You can keep Caldwell :D

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Celtic or as they are known in these parts 'The lesser Greens '

Hibernian F.C 1st to wear the green

Celtic - taking Hibs rejects since 1888.

P.S can we have Riordan back ? You can keep Caldwell :D

Cadwell is always played out of position and I think criticised too much.

Did you see the Derek Riordan sketch on 'Only an excuse' on Hogmanay? If not. I have posted links to the programme earlier in this thread. It's pretty funny. I think it answers your question too.

Hibs did well at Celtic park. Well done! I was right beside your fans at this game and it was nice to experience banter that wasn't vile.

December was a bad month for us. Hope it doesn't cost us the SPL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7155380.stm

[Morrissey the 23rd]

WHAT IN BLUE HEAVENS:
http://www.etims.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2077&Itemid=29

[gasmeter]

Cadwell is always played out of position and I think criticised too much.

Did you see the Derek Riordan sketch on 'Only an excuse' on Hogmanay? If not. I have posted links to the programme earlier in this thread. It's pretty funny. I think it answers your question too.

Hibs did well at Celtic park. Well done! I was right beside your fans at this game and it was nice to experience banter that wasn't vile.

December was a bad month for us. Hope it doesn't cost us the SPL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7155380.stm



I agree Caldwell does sometimes cop some unfair criticism , he did at Hibs too. What fans forget is he is playing in a very young back 4 and maybe he takes on too much responsibility.

Yeah I saw Only an excuse , the Riordan sketch was one of very few funny moments along with Maccas 'wild beaver ' and the Larkhall big drum banging gorilla :D

It's time they called it a day I reckon it's been piss poor for years .

Cheers , Peter.

P. s Any spare Sunderland tckts . I'm getting desperate .

[girlunafraid]

what a class quote Fight the media’s fiction with the truth.



Things are not what they’d like us to believe, fellow Troops in the Hoops. We must do what the press has failed to do in this case, and expose the lies for what they are. Based on the facts we have at hand. Judging by those, Morning in Govan it certainly is not.



In truth, it’s closer to midnight.



Keep the Faith.


The Future’s Bright. It’s Still Green & White.


love

Grim

[Morrissey the 23rd]

I agree Caldwell does sometimes cop some unfair criticism , he did at Hibs too. What fans forget is he is playing in a very young back 4 and maybe he takes on too much responsibility.

Yeah I saw Only an excuse , the Riordan sketch was one of very few funny moments along with Maccas 'wild beaver ' and the Larkhall big drum banging gorilla :D

It's time they called it a day I reckon it's been piss poor for years .

Cheers , Peter.

P. s Any spare Sunderland tckts . I'm getting desperate .

I'm not going to Sunderland but I'll let you know if I know of anybody with a spare.

[gasmeter]

That would be great , cheers .

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Celtic leapfrog Rangers in list of world's richest clubs:
http://sport.scotsman.com/celticfc/Celtic-leapfrog-Rangers-in-list.3776113.jp

Celtic are the only club amongst the world's top 20 for the 2006-7 season to come from outside the 'Big Five' leagues in England, Italy, Spain, Germany and France.

TOP 20 SOCCER TEAMS BY REVENUE, SEASON 2006-07


1. Real Madrid 351.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 1
2. Manchester United 315.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 4
3. Barcelona 290.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 2
4. Chelsea 283.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 6
5. Arsenal 263.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 9
6. AC Milan 227.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 5
7. Bayern Munich 223.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 8
8. Liverpool 198.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 10
9. Inter Milan 195.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 7
10. Roma 157.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 12
11. Tottenham 153.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 15
12. Juventus 145.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 3
13. Lyon 140.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 11
14. Newcastle 129.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 13
15. Hamburg 120.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 16
16. Schalke 114.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 14
17. Celtic 111.8 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
18. Valencia 107.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
19. Marseille 99.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
20. Werder Bremen 97.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a

[lovemorrissey]

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/luvmorrissey/untitled1.jpg

[Jukebox Jury]

Hugh,
You will be £10 poorer when Glasgow Rangers win the SPL this season. You can pay me now if you like, Morrissey's Greatest Hits is £9.77 in Asda so that would be good timing.;)

Jukebox Jury

[Morrissey the 23rd]

It is great to see the currant buns coming out of the woodwork. Doesn't happen much because they don't often get the chance. I'll love it even more when they crawl back in.

They have still to play us three times. The only time league position will matter is when every club has played 38 matches.

Did you see the mighty Rangers last night.:D 4-5-1 at home? Funnier still, it was McCulloch up front.

You seem confident. Want to double or treble the bet?

[Jukebox Jury]

Did you see the mighty Rangers last night.:D 4-5-1 at home? Funnier still, it was McCulloch up front.

You seem confident. Want to double or treble the bet?

Did they play last night? No idea, such is the irrelevance.....
Hugh, the SPL is usually over well before the end of 38 games - sometimes before Easter!

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[ThisCharmingGirl]

Celtic leapfrog Rangers in list of world's richest clubs:
http://sport.scotsman.com/celticfc/Celtic-leapfrog-Rangers-in-list.3776113.jp

Celtic are the only club amongst the world's top 20 for the 2006-7 season to come from outside the 'Big Five' leagues in England, Italy, Spain, Germany and France.

TOP 20 SOCCER TEAMS BY REVENUE, SEASON 2006-07


1. Real Madrid 351.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 1
2. Manchester United 315.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 4
3. Barcelona 290.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 2
4. Chelsea 283.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 6
5. Arsenal 263.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 9
6. AC Milan 227.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 5
7. Bayern Munich 223.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 8
8. Liverpool 198.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 10
9. Inter Milan 195.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 7
10. Roma 157.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 12
11. Tottenham 153.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 15
12. Juventus 145.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 3
13. Lyon 140.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 11
14. Newcastle 129.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 13
15. Hamburg 120.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 16
16. Schalke 114.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 14
17. Celtic 111.8 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
18. Valencia 107.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
19. Marseille 99.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
20. Werder Bremen 97.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a

Thanks for this! I didn't imagine Barça was in so high position :eek: :p

[Ready With Ready-Wit]

http://soccerpatch.com/MEXICO/P_ClubAmericaMex.jpg

:cool:

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Did they play last night? No idea, such is the irrelevance.....
Hugh, the SPL is usually over well before the end of 38 games - sometimes before Easter!

Jukebox Jury

Does that mean you want to double, treble the bet or are you not confident about your claims? It gives me great pleasure to take money from someone so parochial. Your insular views of the world is my gain of your English pound coins. What do you say we make it a £50 bet?;)

Remember when Man City were doing well at the start of the EPL campaign, I offered to bet you any amount you liked that they wouldn't win it. Now, you declined that because even you knew it was silly to think Man City had any chance of winning the EPL.

Rangers are four points ahead of Celtic (and still to play them three times) and you think they're the dog's bollocks. Just because we haven't bagged it by Hallowean again this year, doesn't mean it isn't in the bag.

PS It isn't Easter yet but everybody knows Man City wont win the EPL. It's a two horse race yet again.

I know you are still on a high from beating Manure. I'll take this opportunity to tell you that I have since seen highlights and neither of City’s goals were very impressive. They came more from good luck and poor defending.

You are going to need a lot more luck for Rangers to win the league.

So what's the bet? £10, £20, £30 or £50?

[Please]

Celtic leapfrog Rangers in list of world's richest clubs:
http://sport.scotsman.com/celticfc/Celtic-leapfrog-Rangers-in-list.3776113.jp

Celtic are the only club amongst the world's top 20 for the 2006-7 season to come from outside the 'Big Five' leagues in England, Italy, Spain, Germany and France.

TOP 20 SOCCER TEAMS BY REVENUE, SEASON 2006-07


1. Real Madrid 351.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 1
2. Manchester United 315.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 4
3. Barcelona 290.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 2
4. Chelsea 283.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 6
5. Arsenal 263.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 9
6. AC Milan 227.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 5
7. Bayern Munich 223.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 8
8. Liverpool 198.9 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 10
9. Inter Milan 195.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 7
10. Roma 157.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 12
11. Tottenham 153.1 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 15
12. Juventus 145.2 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 3
13. Lyon 140.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 11
14. Newcastle 129.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 13
15. Hamburg 120.4 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 16
16. Schalke 114.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK 14
17. Celtic 111.8 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
18. Valencia 107.6 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
19. Marseille 99.0 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a
20. Werder Bremen 97.3 ( Sales 2005-06 - EU MILLIONS) RANK n/a

Yet several places below Spurs :guitar:

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Yet several places below Spurs :guitar:

That is because of TV money. This may be the last year you see a Scottish club in the Top 20.

At least until the TV broadcasters form a Super league.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3372308.ece

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Real Celts don't buy The Record

http://www.dailyhun.co.uk/

[Jukebox Jury]

Does that mean you want to double, treble the bet or are you not confident about your claims? It gives me great pleasure to take money from someone so parochial. Your insular views of the world is my gain of your English pound coins. What do you say we make it a £50 bet?;)

Remember when Man City were doing well at the start of the EPL campaign, I offered to bet you any amount you liked that they wouldn't win it. Now, you declined that because even you knew it was silly to think Man City had any chance of winning the EPL.

Rangers are four points ahead of Celtic (and still to play them three times) and you think they're the dog's bollocks. Just because we haven't bagged it by Hallowean again this year, doesn't mean it isn't in the bag.

PS It isn't Easter yet but everybody knows Man City wont win the EPL. It's a two horse race yet again.

I know you are still on a high from beating Manure. I'll take this opportunity to tell you that I have since seen highlights and neither of City’s goals were very impressive. They came more from good luck and poor defending.

You are going to need a lot more luck for Rangers to win the league.

So what's the bet? £10, £20, £30 or £50?

Hugh
I dont think Glasgow Rangers are the dogs bollocks. I dont have an opinion on them in any way, shape or form as I have not seen them play this season (or for many a season!)
As for the bet, to be honest, for me it is not about the money, if I win I wouldn't even accept it, it'll be worth it just to see your silent face:D
I'm happy to pay out though should Glasgow Celtic win the SPL.

As for City, I apologise that the goals scored were not very impressive by your standards, I didn't realise for a goal to 'count' it had to be spectacular. I look forward to watching the BBC News tonight, before MOTD when they show the obligatory 6 seconds worth of highlights from the SPL. I do hope for your sake that Glasgow Celtic score spectacular goals and that it wont be poor defending that enables Glasgow Celtic to score.

Jukebox Jury

[Kilt Uncle]

@ Morrissey the 23rd. I'm surprised that Celtic have such big profits! That must mean that the poor catholic families aren't quite getting the charity they received in the past. Nice to see that the club is still sticking to its traditions, which were admirable, though a long-long time ago it seems..:)

Just as greedy as these vile protestants they're always complaining about.

And you're STILL 4 points behind..:)

[Jukebox Jury]

Hugh
I watched the BBC1 news before MOTD and sure enough, during the obligatory SPL 6 second slot, they showed Glasgow Celtic scoring a goal. Very unspectacular too. Ball came across and some bloke sticks his leg out ala Peter Crouch and the ball deflects into the back of the net. Woopie doo.
I'm going to write to the BBC and ask why they dont show any coverage on the news from that other equally irrelevant celtic (that's pronounced Keltic) Premier League, in Wales.:confused:

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[Morrissey the 23rd]

Hugh
I dont think Glasgow Rangers are the dogs bollocks. I dont have an opinion on them in any way, shape or form as I have not seen them play this season (or for many a season!)
As for the bet, to be honest, for me it is not about the money, if I win I wouldn't even accept it, it'll be worth it just to see your silent face:D
I'm happy to pay out though should Glasgow Celtic win the SPL.

As for City, I apologise that the goals scored were not very impressive by your standards, I didn't realise for a goal to 'count' it had to be spectacular. I look forward to watching the BBC News tonight, before MOTD when they show the obligatory 6 seconds worth of highlights from the SPL. I do hope for your sake that Glasgow Celtic score spectacular goals and that it wont be poor defending that enables Glasgow Celtic to score.

Jukebox Jury

The graffiti on the wall says, 'We're magic! We're magic!'

Beautifull Celtic goal after 26 passes against Hearts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOSo12u5Y8

Highlights from the game this weekend from world famous Celtic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ-xSnlcWkk

PS I'll take your money too Kilt Uncle and I'll give my winnings to kickoutbigotry.

http://www.kickoutbigotry.org/

[Jukebox Jury]

The graffiti on the wall says, 'We're magic! We're magic!'

Beautifull Celtic goal after 26 passes against Hearts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaOSo12u5Y8

Highlights from the game this weekend from world famous Celtic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ-xSnlcWkk

PS I'll take your money too Kilt Uncle and I'll give my winnings to kickoutbigotry.

http://www.kickoutbigotry.org/

Can you send us the youtube links to the SPL leaders, Glasgow Rangers, victory against Kilmarnock?

Jukebox Jury

[Pervomartovtsi]

there is a FC in Chile , Talca Rangers

http://www.primerab.cl/sitio/images/stories/estadisticas/2007_rangers_matriz_3.jpg

they are awful

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Rest is for losers:

Days ahead of the most important league fixture of the season, Stephen McManus, Gary Caldwell, Artur Boruc, Paul Hartley, Scott Brown and Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink all represented their countries.

On Saturday they play Rangers, who due to mass call-offs were represented in international football only by 15 minutes of Kris Boyd (and they complain about having too many games). Barry Ferguson, Christian Dailly, Lee McCulloch and Allan McGregor all fained injury.

Gers players must have extremely serious, dead bad, really, really sore injuries to withdraw from the Scotland squad:
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/display.var.2147619.0.only_an_excuse_scotlands_fun niest_football_column_with_jonathan_watson_philip_ differ.php

Ally McCoist, the Rangers assistant manager, last night revealed that the four Rangers players who pulled out of the Scotland squad for last night's friendly against Croatia should all be fit for Saturday's Old Firm match at Ibrox. What a surprise! Will the Scottish Football Association invoke the Fifa rule that would allow them to prevent these players taking part at Ibrox? Of course not! That wouldn't help Rangers win the league. An SFA objective.

Scotland is a messed up country.

Lyon visited Ibrox in December after Rangers engineered an unprecidented break for their players and proved that rests are for losers. After opening their Champions League group with two wins, Rangers convinced many they were hot favourites to qualify for the tournament’s knock out stage, but planning to rest became planning to lose as they tumbled out of the tournament.

Rangers fixture problem echoes Celtic’s from ‘70s; no league extension was ruled:

In 1971 when Celtic were neck-and-neck with Aberdeen, the Scottish Football League took the decision not to extend the league (correctly, we were told by all at the time), as this would be the league making a legislative change in favour of Celtic.

With five days of the league season left, Celtic were forced to play three games: against St Mirren on Tuesday, 27 April, Ayr United on Thursday, 29 April and Clyde on Saturday, 1 May; winning the league by two points before dismissing Rangers in the Scottish Cup final for good measure.

The league cannot introduce a legislative change which would affect the competitive chances of one club over another. If Rangers are good enough, they will win the league; without any outside help. As always, we can only ask that Rangers are dealt with in the same manner Celtic were in the past.

Here is a link to Peter Lawwell’s robust comments opposing the SPL potentially extending the season to provide Rangers with recovery time between their games: http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_210308151302.aspx

As well as the fixture congestion from 1971, Celtic also suffered in 1974 when they were forced them to play and incredible three games in four days.

After returning home from a European Cup semi final in Madrid on Thursday 25 April, Celtic played league games against Falkirk on Saturday 27 April, Aberdeen on Monday, 29 April and Morton the next day, Tuesday 30 April. They won the league, their ninth in succession, by four points from Hibernian.

Celtic finished that week at Hampden, with another Scottish Cup win.

Is it only Celtic who can be asked to play three games in four days on the back of a European semi final? Rangers must accept whatever fixture burden their success thrusts upon them and the SPL must show no partiality (which could determine the destination of the league) in arranging fixtures.

The FA Premier League had four full league programmes in the week between Monday 26 December 2005 and Monday 2 January 2006.

The experience was not fatal. On 3 January 2006, the sun rose in the east and set in the west; Chelsea played games on all four dates and went on to win the league.

Rangers could be allowed nine days, Saturday to the following Sunday to play four games; extending the league to help their players prepare for the rigours of competition would be preposterous; it would be akin to administering THG by committee.

To get away with extending the season would be cheating.

Bearing in mind one SPL club owner claims to have 80% of the Scottish media in his pocket, it will be interesting to see how the media report and try to influence the SPL board’s decision on fixture arrangements.

The FA Premier League had four full league programmes in the nine days from Sunday 26 December 2004 to Monday 3 January 2005.

The country lived through the experience. On 4 January 2005, people returned to work, some socialised as though nothing had happened. Chelsea played games on all four dates and went on to win the league.

Rangers could be allowed the same period, Saturday to the following Sunday, to play four games; extending the league to help Rangers get ready for important games would be cheating.


Celtic planning Japan tour:
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=84883

Celtic clarify Japanese tour story:
http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_260308152325.aspx

Mizuno sees bright Celtic future after belated first appearance:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/mizuno-sees-bright-celtic-future-after-belated-first-appearance-801105.html


Dougal, scourge of SFA appeals board, to referee Ibrox game:

The SPL have appointed Stuart Dougal to referee Saturday’s enormously important league game at Ibrox.

In November an embittered Dougal launched an attack on the integrity of the SFA appeals board, chaired by Lord McLean, after it halved a touchline band handed out to Gordon Strachan.

After the hearing, Dougal said, “When you start having lawyers and lords against a humble referee, we can’t compete.

"In simple terms, there was sufficient doubt put into the minds of Lord McLean and his colleagues on the appeals board by Celtic's solicitor.”

Dougal is the only SFA referee ever to suggest the appeals board chairman was acting against him and after his November outburst I expected Dougal’s career to drift towards obscurity.

We can only hope no residue of resentment exists towards the Celtic manager and conspiracy theorists are proven wrong when "things even themselves out" on Saturday, as I am sure they will.


Much was made of Strachan exchange with the Aberdeen steward. The SFA swiftly handed him a 4 match ban. What do they deal out to Walter for his assault? A 2 match ban. No wonder he isn't appealing. It's also no wonder to me why little has been said about this. Bigotry and bias is something you learn when you live in Scotland. For this reason, Smith's long history of aggression and violence can continue, as long as he's the manager of Scotland's most loved club (From within Scotland).


The daily rectum, michief making as always:

The Scottish rag reported Arthur Boruc wants away from Celtic and Bayern Munich are preparing a '£10M swoop' to buy him as Oliver Kahn's replacement. They reported that goalkeeping coach Sepp Maier had watched Boruc.

Bayern have denied it. "There is absolutely nothing in the story." Hoeness stressed. "It's a strange story. Sepp Maier wasn't there (in Scotland). From beginning to end, there is no truth in it.". Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge described the story as "complete nonsense", and said: "It's grotesque to think Sepp Maier is looking for a goalkeeper for Jurgen Klinsmann (who becomes Bayern boss next season). We certainly won't be spending £13m on another keeper."



The chairman always gets his man. Aye right!:
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g63Axfh7nwcEo7l-cvlGr8Zh7u1Q


This is a MUST read

A paranoid Celt?:
http://www.keep-the-faith.net/20080321/story6.html



Humour or too close to the truth to be funny:

I can now confirm plans by the SPL to let Rangers play at least 5 of their league games from this season in 2009.

In a statement to be released tomorrow David Murray stated "This is the right move. I think it would have been unfair if Rangers had to play under the same league rules as everyone else. It's something we're not used to. It should never happen."

Echoing this comment an SPL spokesperson said: "Hopefully the great teddy-bears can now win it all. After all they were here first and we are the people. Bob Malcolm was right"

Asked about fairness Lex Gold said, "Well, life isn't fair is it?", adding, "Good luck to The Rangers."


THE BBC has apologised after a Radio Scotland presenter read out an email on the channel's Newsdrive programme last week saying Ibrox is home to "half-human, half-animal hybrids".
At the end of a debate on human embryos, presenters Ruth Davidson and Abeer Macintyre read out listeners' emails. One of the comments stated: "Half-human, half-animal hybrids are not new – Ibrox has been their home for over a century."

The comment went unchallenged prompting a deluge of complaints from livid Rangers supporters. A BBC Scotland spokesman said: "We agree it wasn't a very constructive contribution to the debate and apologise for any offence caused."

It's not the first time the BBC has been in hot water with Rangers fans.

Two years ago, BBC weather girl and Kilmarnock fan Kirsty McCabe advised viewers to "wrap up warm if they are heading for Castle Greyskull" in a dig at Ibrox.

[Jukebox Jury]

Hugh,
That money you owe me for the o2 ticket, do you want to add the tenner from the bet onto the cheque? Saves you posting me another one in a few weeks time;)

Jukebox Jury

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Hugh,
That money you owe me for the o2 ticket, do you want to add the tenner from the bet onto the cheque? Saves you posting me another one in a few weeks time;)

Jukebox Jury

I say I pay the ticket in full and you give my winnings to the SLC.



Needless to say, the Scottish media, dedicated professionals to a man and all committed to accuracy, honesty, impariallity and truth, did not ask too many difficult, potentially embarrassing questions to Ally 'the card' McCoist last night.

His patriotism without peer cannot be questioned. Well, apart from abandoning his country in the midst of a campaign to reach a major tournament but you'd be silly to expect to see any talk of that! Have there been any other international managers who have done that?

George Burley said he expected "quite a number" of the Rangers sick list to be sidelined on Saturday.

Well, it seems cheating FC's international commitment dodgers have all recovered overnight.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Fit Celtic player declared unfit by SFA. Anything to do with 'Old firm' bias?

It's hard to support Scotland. Such a divided, bitter country.

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/SFA-stand-by--.3925949.jp

http://www.celtic.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=104596

McCoist said BEFORE the Scotland game he expected all four Rankers players to be fit for Saturday The Daily Rangers have never been keen on facts. Still.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2008/03/28/celtic-want-answers-after-robson-sent-home-by-scotland-86908-20365466/

http://www.sportingo.com/football/a7875_there-celticrangers-game-coming-up-by-any-chance

[Kilt Uncle]

Fit Celtic player declared unfit by SFA. Anything to do with 'Old firm' bias?

It's hard to support Scotland. Such a divided, bitter country.

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/SFA-stand-by--.3925949.jp

http://www.celtic.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=104596

McCoist said BEFORE the Scotland game he expected all four Rankers players to be fit for Saturday The Daily Rangers have never been keen on facts. Still.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/2008/03/28/celtic-want-answers-after-robson-sent-home-by-scotland-86908-20365466/

http://www.sportingo.com/football/a7875_there-celticrangers-game-coming-up-by-any-chance

Just some friendly advice. There are more important things in life to get worked up about?

And you will be humped tomorrow!

[Albion]

Just some friendly advice. There are more important things in life to get worked up about?

And you will be humped tomorrow!

What he said.

Soon enough the postponed games will be irrelevant.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

There must be zero tolerance of corruption in football, our national football association is not a billy-boys club.

Secret video explains Robson medical mystery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBmj7rGVgQ

[Jukebox Jury]

Half time
This is Hugh - :tears::tears::tears:

This is Jukebox Jury full in the knowledge that a tenner is coming his way:cool::cool::guitar::guitar:

Jukebox Jury

[HIM]

His patriotism without peer cannot be questioned. Well, apart from abandoning his country [...]

http://smokebelch.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/celtic.jpg

scottish patriotism at parkhead.

novel.

[Jukebox Jury]

[CENTER]

scottish patriotism at parkhead.

novel.

....and not a patch of tartan or St Andrews cross / Union Flag insight:confused:

Jukebox Jury

[Kilt Uncle]

Just some friendly advice. There are more important things in life to get worked up about?

And you will be humped tomorrow!

Man, my predicting skills are getting better.

1-0 to the Gers, not so much a humping, more like a slow, boring intense shag and we came and Celtic didn't.

Bring on the excuses!

1.Protestant Conspiracy.
2.Masonic Conspiracy.
3.Combined Protestant/Masonic conspiracy.
4.The weak dollar/Turmoil in the money markets.
5.They started before we were ready.

League Cup winners, 6 points clear in the league with a game in hand, still in the UEFA cup and still in the Scottish cup. And man we are a boring team to watch!

Football is fun..:)

[Jukebox Jury]

6 points clear in the league with a game in hand


The easiest tenner I have ever earned.....:D

Kilt Uncle, like you, I await the excuses and the links to how Celtic fans behaved better than Rangers fans in Barcelona, as if somehow that gets them extra points in the SPL or further in Europe:rolleyes:
By the way, you missed off 'Rangers players pulling out of international friendly games' as an excuse too;)

Jukebox Jury

[Kilt Uncle]

The easiest tenner I have ever earned.....:D

Kilt Uncle, like you, I await the excuses and the links to how Celtic fans behaved better than Rangers fans in Barcelona, as if somehow that gets them extra points in the SPL or further in Europe:rolleyes:

Jukebox Jury

Well, there was a story during the week about Celtic fans singing sectarian songs while in Barcelona and that UEFA may be investigating it. Probably a rogue Rangers supporter plying the Celtic angels with buckfast and threatening them with instant death unless they sang something which may cause offence..:) Probably Ian Paisley dressed as a French Maid promising 'extras' if they help the protestant cause..:)

I don't know, people take this stuff very seriously but it's obvious to me that all clubs have their idiotic elements who spoil it for the majority.

Today was great though. Very orgasmic..:)

[HIM]

....and not a patch of tartan or St Andrews cross / Union Flag insight:confused:

Jukebox Jury

it's lucky you were here to welly that one well & truly into the back of the net.

Man, my predicting skills are getting better.

1-0 to the Gers, not so much a humping, more like a slow, boring intense shag and we came and Celtic didn't.

Bring on the excuses!

1.Protestant Conspiracy.
2.Masonic Conspiracy.
3.Combined Protestant/Masonic conspiracy.
4.The weak dollar/Turmoil in the money markets.
5.They started before we were ready.

i think the n.m.e. may also be implicated.

[Albion]

Well, there was a story during the week about Celtic fans singing sectarian songs while in Barcelona and that UEFA may be investigating it. Probably a rogue Rangers supporter plying the Celtic angels with buckfast and threatening them with instant death unless they sang something which may cause offence..:) Probably Ian Paisley dressed as a French Maid promising 'extras' if they help the protestant cause..


It was the infamous Juan Ghuy.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Todays result means a poor Cheating FC side will probably win the SPL.

Failing to score is costing us dearly. As did man of the match - Stuart McDougal.

In the 21st minute, Whittaker fouled Scott Brown in the box. The ball was then carried over the goal-line by the fully fit McGergor. Result - Celtic stonewall penalty denied, no red card for Whittaker, Rangers awarded goal kick and Vennegoor booked.

Injury time of 3 minutes was played. This was made up of five 2nd half subs (5 x 30secs) plus 3mins 38 secs stopage time for treatment of cheat Kevin Thompson, for his self-inflicted injury. This cheat was already on a yellow card when he dived. Why was he not given a red for cheating? Just as Darcheville wasn't punished for diving. We all already know. We can carry on pretending that bigotry in Scotland is a conspiricy and that things even themselves out.

Just because laptop loyalist Alan Carson from The Hun says Celtic fans are about to be punished by UEFA does not make it true.

Carry on. Don't let facts get in the way.

[Kilt Uncle]

Todays result means a poor Cheating FC side will probably win the SPL.

Failing to score is costing us dearly. As did man of the match - Stuart McDougal.

In the 21st minute, Whittaker fouled Scott Brown in the box. The ball was then carried over the goal-line by the fully fit McGergor. Result - Celtic stonewall penalty denied, no red card for Whittaker, Rangers awarded goal kick and Vennegoor booked.

Injury time of 3 minutes was played. This was made up of five 2nd half subs (5 x 30secs) plus 3mins 38 secs stopage time for treatment of cheat Kevin Thompson, for his self-inflicted injury. This cheat was already on a yellow card when he dived. Why was he not given a red for cheating? Just as Darchevialle wasn't punished for diving. We all already know. We can carry on pretending that bigotry in Scotland is a conspiricy and that things even themselves out.

Just because laptop loyalist Alan Carson from The Hun says Celtic fans are about to be punished by UEFA does not make it true.

Carry on. Don't let facts get in the way.

You see the scary thing is, i think you actually believe all that stuff. You see Bigotry in Scotland manifests and manifested itself in the fact that poor catholic families were treated like crap, given the worst jobs, the worst housing conditions, paid peanuts, they weren't given jobs because they didn't go to the 'correct' schools and they were treated like second class citizens. THAT, my friend is the manifestation of bigotry where it really matters, i don't think that a multi-million pound football club suffered quite the same, do you?

The way that you take the real problems of bigotry and apply them to your football team is pathetic.

If there is a masonic conspiracy against your club why do you even bother competing? Why are Celtic spending millions on players when they already know that they won't win the league? More money wasted that could be going to those poor catholic families. And this conspiracy you speak of isn't very successful is it? Celtic have won just about the same amount of trophies as Rangers, how can that possibly happen if all the referees and officials are against you? If i was you i'd get on the phone to the chairman, Mr Ried - the guy who trouped into the lobbies at Westminster and voted for the illegal, immoral war, and tell him that you shouldn't bother putting out any money because there's not a hope in hell of the team winning anything while this public, masonic conspiracy to deprive the team of trophies, continues to exist.

I think you're the man for the job.

And Scotland isn't a bitter, divided country. It only is to people who don't realise it's not the 1970's any more and things have changed and they are constantly changing. And the sooner we get rid of Organised Religion and the bullshit it perpetuates, the better. And that includes the bullshit perpetuated by Old Firm fans and the so-called conspiraces that seems to deprive Rangers and Celtic of success, even though they've just about won EVERY trophy in the history of Scottish football between them since the dawn of time. Yes, we have paranoid tossers at Rangers too.

It's time to evolve.

[gasmeter]

You see the scary thing is, i think you actually believe all that stuff. You see Bigotry in Scotland manifests and manifested itself in the fact that poor catholic families were treated like crap, given the worst jobs, the worst housing conditions, paid peanuts, they weren't given jobs because they didn't go to the 'correct' schools and they were treated like second class citizens. THAT, my friend is the manifestation of bigotry where it really matters, i don't think that a multi-million pound football club suffered quite the same, do you?

The way that you take the real problems of bigotry and apply them to your football team is pathetic.

If there is a masonic conspiracy against your club why do you even bother competing? Why are Celtic spending millions on players when they already know that they won't win the league? More money wasted that could be going to those poor catholic families. And this conspiracy you speak of isn't very successful is it? Celtic have won just about the same amount of trophies as Rangers, how can that possibly happen if all the referees and officials are against you? If i was you i'd get on the phone to the chairman, Mr Ried - the guy who trouped into the lobbies at Westminster and voted for the illegal, immoral war, and tell him that you shouldn't bother putting out any money because there's not a hope in hell of the team winning anything while this public, masonic conspiracy to deprive the team of trophies, continues to exist.

I think you're the man for the job.

And Scotland isn't a bitter, divided country. It only is to people who don't realise it's not the 1970's any more and things have changed and they are constantly changing. And the sooner we get rid of Organised Religion and the bullshit it perpetuates, the better. And that includes the bullshit perpetuated by Old Firm fans and the so-called conspiraces that seems to deprive Rangers and Celtic of success, even though they've just about won EVERY trophy in the history of Scottish football between them since the dawn of time. Yes, we have paranoid tossers at Rangers too.

It's time to evolve.





Err , Any chance you two could let us win just one measly Scottish cup ?

:D

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Err , Any chance you two could let us win just one measly Scottish cup ?

:D

Hibs won the Scottish cup in 1887 and 1902. Isn't that enough?

[Albion]

Todays result means a poor Cheating FC side will probably win the SPL.

Failing to score is costing us dearly. As did man of the match - Stuart McDougal.

In the 21st minute, Whittaker fouled Scott Brown in the box. The ball was then carried over the goal-line by the fully fit McGergor. Result - Celtic stonewall penalty denied, no red card for Whittaker, Rangers awarded goal kick and Vennegoor booked.

Injury time of 3 minutes was played. This was made up of five 2nd half subs (5 x 30secs) plus 3mins 38 secs stopage time for treatment of cheat Kevin Thompson, for his self-inflicted injury. This cheat was already on a yellow card when he dived. Why was he not given a red for cheating? Just as Darcheville wasn't punished for diving. We all already know. We can carry on pretending that bigotry in Scotland is a conspiricy and that things even themselves out.

Just because laptop loyalist Alan Carson from The Hun says Celtic fans are about to be punished by UEFA does not make it true.

Carry on. Don't let facts get in the way.


Ignoring the fact that two of Celtic's players should have been sent off, but weren't.

Have Celtic ever lost a game fair and square? At least you can always fall back on your moral victories. :D

The Car Park Awaits

You see the scary thing is, i think you actually believe all that stuff. You see Bigotry in Scotland manifests and manifested itself in the fact that poor catholic families were treated like crap, given the worst jobs, the worst housing conditions, paid peanuts, they weren't given jobs because they didn't go to the 'correct' schools and they were treated like second class citizens. THAT, my friend is the manifestation of bigotry where it really matters, i don't think that a multi-million pound football club suffered quite the same, do you?

The way that you take the real problems of bigotry and apply them to your football team is pathetic.

If there is a masonic conspiracy against your club why do you even bother competing? Why are Celtic spending millions on players when they already know that they won't win the league? More money wasted that could be going to those poor catholic families. And this conspiracy you speak of isn't very successful is it? Celtic have won just about the same amount of trophies as Rangers, how can that possibly happen if all the referees and officials are against you? If i was you i'd get on the phone to the chairman, Mr Ried - the guy who trouped into the lobbies at Westminster and voted for the illegal, immoral war, and tell him that you shouldn't bother putting out any money because there's not a hope in hell of the team winning anything while this public, masonic conspiracy to deprive the team of trophies, continues to exist.

I think you're the man for the job.

And Scotland isn't a bitter, divided country. It only is to people who don't realise it's not the 1970's any more and things have changed and they are constantly changing. And the sooner we get rid of Organised Religion and the bullshit it perpetuates, the better. And that includes the bullshit perpetuated by Old Firm fans and the so-called conspiraces that seems to deprive Rangers and Celtic of success, even though they've just about won EVERY trophy in the history of Scottish football between them since the dawn of time. Yes, we have paranoid tossers at Rangers too.

It's time to evolve.

Please don't bring sense into this thread. He's evidently unable to comprehend it.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

You see the scary thing is, i think you actually believe all that stuff. You see Bigotry in Scotland manifests and manifested itself in the fact that poor catholic families were treated like crap, given the worst jobs, the worst housing conditions, paid peanuts, they weren't given jobs because they didn't go to the 'correct' schools and they were treated like second class citizens. THAT, my friend is the manifestation of bigotry where it really matters, i don't think that a multi-million pound football club suffered quite the same, do you?

The way that you take the real problems of bigotry and apply them to your football team is pathetic.

If there is a masonic conspiracy against your club why do you even bother competing? Why are Celtic spending millions on players when they already know that they won't win the league? More money wasted that could be going to those poor catholic families. And this conspiracy you speak of isn't very successful is it? Celtic have won just about the same amount of trophies as Rangers, how can that possibly happen if all the referees and officials are against you? If i was you i'd get on the phone to the chairman, Mr Ried - the guy who trouped into the lobbies at Westminster and voted for the illegal, immoral war, and tell him that you shouldn't bother putting out any money because there's not a hope in hell of the team winning anything while this public, masonic conspiracy to deprive the team of trophies, continues to exist.

I think you're the man for the job.

And Scotland isn't a bitter, divided country. It only is to people who don't realise it's not the 1970's any more and things have changed and they are constantly changing. And the sooner we get rid of Organised Religion and the bullshit it perpetuates, the better. And that includes the bullshit perpetuated by Old Firm fans and the so-called conspiraces that seems to deprive Rangers and Celtic of success, even though they've just about won EVERY trophy in the history of Scottish football between them since the dawn of time. Yes, we have paranoid tossers at Rangers too.

It's time to evolve.

The tosser comment and subsequently yourself should have been ignored for writing that towards me.

You pretend bigotry doesn't exist or at least have a blinkered view that it is ok at certain levels. The flute bands didn't stop marching in the '70's and bigotry is alive and kicking today. Only yesterday somebody had their throat slit for wearing a Celtic top.

We can both wish religion did not play a part in Scottish football or society but it does.

I hate how Celtic and Rangers are lumped together under the collective term 'Old firm'. They are two separate entities. It's laughable to talk of a anti-Rangers conspiracy. You could expand on that if you wish. It shouldn't take long. Celtic fans generally avoid the term 'old firm' to distance themselves from Rangers. The term is often used against Celtic by lumping us togther with problems concerning them. This article from 'Scotland on Sunday' today demonstrates that a little:

Tom English: Robson: The intriguing riddle of Scotland's fifth man

'ONE BARRY Robson, there's only one Barry Robson". Actually, there are two. There must be. How else can we explain the comments of Gordon Strachan and George Burley last week? This character they both spoke of; crocked in the Cameron House hotel one minute and galloping around Celtic's training ground at Lennoxtown like a man possessed the next. Can't have been the same person, can it?

Strachan says Robson was good to go for Wednesday night's friendly against Croatia; Burley says he wasn't. Burley talked about a knee injury that Robson picked up playing against Gretna last weekend, a blow diagnosed by his medical team, Professor Stewart Hillis and Dr John MacLean, and deemed sufficiently severe to have him sent home to nurse his wound. No 'we'll monitor it over the next 24 hours' and no 'we'll give him every chance to prove his fitness'. No, it was cut and dried. Robson hadn't a prayer of making a recovery in time.

Strachan said he knew nothing about any wound, any injury. His player was "100% fit" he said. The Celtic manager was confused. He scrunched up his face in that way of his and seemed to be wondering, "Robbo? A knee? When? And if he's injured, who's that guy out there sprinting around like a lunatic? Barry, is that really you?"

In the mid-1960s, Muhammad Ali hit Sonny Liston with a punch that nobody saw. Knocked the Big Ugly Bear clean out. He called it the Phantom Punch. Everybody believed that Liston took a dive but Ali fought that talk with everything he had. "I hit so fast I switch off the light and I'm in bed before it's dark," he said. "Wanna see how fast the Phantom Punch is? (Ali stands still and doesn't move a muscle for five seconds) Wanna see it again?"

When did Robson's phantom blow land? Right under Strachan's nose apparently. Right there while he was looking on at Almondvale last Sunday afternoon. Happened after about 10 minutes apparently. Strachan missed it. Fancy that. He'd only 11 men to keep an eye on and he couldn't spot that one of them was struggling with a dodgy knee. This problem was contagious, clearly. The medical staff alongside Strachan in the dugout also didn't see anything untoward about Robson's movement. Neither, it has to be said, did Robson himself. How extraordinary it must have been for him to turn up at the Scotland camp only to be told that not only was he not fit but that he wouldn't be fit in three days' time either.

"What's the problem, doc?"

"It's your knee, son. Look at the state of it."

"Feels okay to me."

"It's like a balloon, man. You cannae play with that."

"Er, really?"


This is a curious business. We read about the controversy of the Old Firm Five last week but, really, there were only four of them. The cases of Barry Ferguson, Lee McCulloch, Christian Dailly and Allan McGregor were altogether different to Robson's. This is surely one of the first instances in the history of friendly international matches where a club offers the services of a player and the country rejects him on the grounds of an alleged dubious injury. This is so back to front it's hard to fathom.


The theories on this are obvious ones. Scotland sent a Celtic man home so as to dilute the effect of all those Rangers guys withdrawing. Hence, it could be billed as the Old Firm Five pulling out and not the Rangers Four. We don't know if that's true or not but it's a hair-raising take on things and not an unreasonable one. Strachan has done nothing to downplay his suspicions in all of this and the SFA have done nothing to quash those suspicions. They say they're waiting for an official complaint from Celtic on the matter. Then they'll investigate.

The Record broke this story on Friday. They sold it as "Celts fury at Robson SFA Riddle". The Celtic hierarchy were said to be furious and demanding an explanation as to why Robson exited the Scotland squad "against his will". We will see just how furious Celtic are. My guess is that they are angry but that they won't make a huge deal of this. Life's too short and all that. And the season's at too critical a point to be sidetracked by issues such as this.

Maybe they will go to war, but I doubt it. If they don't, that shouldn't be the end of it. The SFA ought to be asking a few discreet questions in the background after this. Burley, for one, may be wondering what the hell is going on. He has his medical staff telling him Robson is unfit and Strachan telling the country the opposite. He has the ludicrous spectacle of a player with much to offer being shunted while supposedly pleading to be left to stay in camp and prove that he is ready to play.

A small point here: if Celtic were happy for Robson to stay and Robson was happy to stay, what harm was there in allowing him to stay? Where was the downside? Wasn't Monday a little premature to be making definite calls on his fitness if Celtic were in no mad rush to have him back?

Scottish football is the subject of more storms and furies and outrages than you can shake a stick at and most of them are overblown pieces of nonsense. This is an intriguing one, though. The conflict in opinion on Robson's state of health needs resolving. Somebody is out of line here. And if Celtic don't take the lead in this matter the SFA shouldn't see that as their cue to bury it.

[HIM]

The tosser comment and subsequently yourself should have been ignored for writing that towards me.

You pretend bigotry doesn't exist or at least have a blinkered view that it is ok at certain levels. The flute bands didn't stop marching in the '70's and bigotry is alive and kicking today. Only yesterday somebody had their throat slit for wearing a Celtic top.

We can both wish religion did not play a part in Scottish football or society but it does.

I hate how Celtic and Rangers are lumped together under the collective term 'Old firm'. They are two separate entities. It's laughable to talk of a anti-Rangers conspiracy. You could expand on that if you wish. It shouldn't take long. Celtic fans generally avoid the term 'old firm' to distance themselves from Rangers. The term is often used against Celtic by lumping us togther with problems concerning them. This article from 'Scotland on Sunday' today demonstrates that a little:

Tom English: Robson: The intriguing riddle of Scotland's fifth man

'ONE BARRY Robson, there's only one Barry Robson". Actually, there are two. There must be. How else can we explain the comments of Gordon Strachan and George Burley last week? This character they both spoke of; crocked in the Cameron House hotel one minute and galloping around Celtic's training ground at Lennoxtown like a man possessed the next. Can't have been the same person, can it?

Strachan says Robson was good to go for Wednesday night's friendly against Croatia; Burley says he wasn't. Burley talked about a knee injury that Robson picked up playing against Gretna last weekend, a blow diagnosed by his medical team, Professor Stewart Hillis and Dr John MacLean, and deemed sufficiently severe to have him sent home to nurse his wound. No 'we'll monitor it over the next 24 hours' and no 'we'll give him every chance to prove his fitness'. No, it was cut and dried. Robson hadn't a prayer of making a recovery in time.

Strachan said he knew nothing about any wound, any injury. His player was "100% fit" he said. The Celtic manager was confused. He scrunched up his face in that way of his and seemed to be wondering, "Robbo? A knee? When? And if he's injured, who's that guy out there sprinting around like a lunatic? Barry, is that really you?"

In the mid-1960s, Muhammad Ali hit Sonny Liston with a punch that nobody saw. Knocked the Big Ugly Bear clean out. He called it the Phantom Punch. Everybody believed that Liston took a dive but Ali fought that talk with everything he had. "I hit so fast I switch off the light and I'm in bed before it's dark," he said. "Wanna see how fast the Phantom Punch is? (Ali stands still and doesn't move a muscle for five seconds) Wanna see it again?"

When did Robson's phantom blow land? Right under Strachan's nose apparently. Right there while he was looking on at Almondvale last Sunday afternoon. Happened after about 10 minutes apparently. Strachan missed it. Fancy that. He'd only 11 men to keep an eye on and he couldn't spot that one of them was struggling with a dodgy knee. This problem was contagious, clearly. The medical staff alongside Strachan in the dugout also didn't see anything untoward about Robson's movement. Neither, it has to be said, did Robson himself. How extraordinary it must have been for him to turn up at the Scotland camp only to be told that not only was he not fit but that he wouldn't be fit in three days' time either.

"What's the problem, doc?"

"It's your knee, son. Look at the state of it."

"Feels okay to me."

"It's like a balloon, man. You cannae play with that."

"Er, really?"


This is a curious business. We read about the controversy of the Old Firm Five last week but, really, there were only four of them. The cases of Barry Ferguson, Lee McCulloch, Christian Dailly and Allan McGregor were altogether different to Robson's. This is surely one of the first instances in the history of friendly international matches where a club offers the services of a player and the country rejects him on the grounds of an alleged dubious injury. This is so back to front it's hard to fathom.


The theories on this are obvious ones. Scotland sent a Celtic man home so as to dilute the effect of all those Rangers guys withdrawing. Hence, it could be billed as the Old Firm Five pulling out and not the Rangers Four. We don't know if that's true or not but it's a hair-raising take on things and not an unreasonable one. Strachan has done nothing to downplay his suspicions in all of this and the SFA have done nothing to quash those suspicions. They say they're waiting for an official complaint from Celtic on the matter. Then they'll investigate.

The Record broke this story on Friday. They sold it as "Celts fury at Robson SFA Riddle". The Celtic hierarchy were said to be furious and demanding an explanation as to why Robson exited the Scotland squad "against his will". We will see just how furious Celtic are. My guess is that they are angry but that they won't make a huge deal of this. Life's too short and all that. And the season's at too critical a point to be sidetracked by issues such as this.

Maybe they will go to war, but I doubt it. If they don't, that shouldn't be the end of it. The SFA ought to be asking a few discreet questions in the background after this. Burley, for one, may be wondering what the hell is going on. He has his medical staff telling him Robson is unfit and Strachan telling the country the opposite. He has the ludicrous spectacle of a player with much to offer being shunted while supposedly pleading to be left to stay in camp and prove that he is ready to play.

A small point here: if Celtic were happy for Robson to stay and Robson was happy to stay, what harm was there in allowing him to stay? Where was the downside? Wasn't Monday a little premature to be making definite calls on his fitness if Celtic were in no mad rush to have him back?

Scottish football is the subject of more storms and furies and outrages than you can shake a stick at and most of them are overblown pieces of nonsense. This is an intriguing one, though. The conflict in opinion on Robson's state of health needs resolving. Somebody is out of line here. And if Celtic don't take the lead in this matter the SFA shouldn't see that as their cue to bury it.

perhaps you're taking it all too seriously and elevating it, in your mind, to a level of importance that it doesn't warrant.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Ignoring the fact that two of Celtic's players should have been sent off, but weren't.

Have Celtic ever lost a game fair and square? At least you can always fall back on your moral victories. :D

The Car Park Awaits

Please don't bring sense into this thread. He's evidently unable to comprehend it.

I normally do an excellent job in ignoring your existence. You could ignore me too if you like? I know it's hard. I'm irresistible to follow.

Yeah, Broadfoot should have been sent off too but he plays for Rangers. Naylor was booked for dissent after that hun dived and was awarded a foul. Fair and square?

Oh, you mean Novo for raising his hand? No. Can't be him. He wasn't wearing hoops. Ah! That's why he got away with that! BTW, what does Ferguson have to do to get booked? Fair and square?

Brown is taken out of play deliberately. Ref gives offside, even though it happened after Brown went down. Fair and square?

Thomson dives, Boruc leans over and says something, Novo pushes Boruc. Boruc booked! Thomson (already on a yellow card) is then stretchered off, avoiding further punishment and waste a great deal of time. Anti-football at its best. Rangers are then allowed to make a substitution but not Celtic. Fair and square?

It is a war of attrition. Every little bit to help out Rangers and disadvantage Celtic in every game the teams play, no matter the opposition. It isn't inconsistent or poor referring, as it consistently favours Rangers and consistently disadvantages Celtic. It's plain old cheating and shamefully anti-catholic. Celtic need to be much better than Rangers to be able to win.

European games are so different. I'd love foreign refs to ref Scottish games.

Can you imagine how it must feel to win despite every dirty, corrupt, underhand, sneaky, sleekit trick the establishment could throw our your way?

In all the posts I've made over the years concerning Celtic that is probably the first time I've mentioned Catholic. I would like to see religion erradicated from all areas of all societies. I certainly don't like religion being linked with Celtic EVERY mention. I got bored of that when I was 11. I mentioned this time because it is a fact that the anti-Celtic agenda is based on anti-catholic bigotry.

The whole sorry mess makes me proud to be a Celtic fan. My passion is perhaps fuelled by bigotry experienced by me over 37 years, simply for supporting Celtic. I know we are meant to just bow our heads and say nothing but I also have a passion for equality and fairness. I will never be mastered.

[HIM]

I normally do an excellent job in ignoring your existence. You could ignore me too if you like? I know it's hard. I'm irresistible to follow.

Yeah, Broadfoot should have been sent off too but he plays for Rangers. Naylor was booked for dissent after that hun dived and was awarded a foul. Fair and square?

Oh, you mean Novo for raising his hand? No. Can't be him. He wasn't wearing hoops. Ah! That's why he got away with that! BTW, what does Ferguson have to do to get booked? Fair and square?

Brown is taken out of play deliberately. Ref gives offside, even though it happened after Brown went down. Fair and square?

Thomson dives, Boruc leans over and says something, Novo pushes Boruc. Boruc booked! Thomson (already on a yellow card) is then stretchered off, avoiding further punishment and waste a great deal of time. Anti-football at its best. Rangers are then allowed to make a substitution but not Celtic. Fair and square?

It is a war of attrition. Every little bit to help out Rangers and disadvantage Celtic in every game the teams play, no matter the opposition. It isn't inconsistent or poor referring, as it consistently favours Rangers and consistently disadvantages Celtic. It's plain old cheating and shamefully anti-catholic. Celtic need to be much better than Rangers to be able to win.

European games are so different. I'd love foreign refs to ref Scottish games.

Can you imagine how it must feel to win despite every dirty, corrupt, underhand, sneaky, sleekit trick the establishment could throw our your way?

In all the posts I've made over the years concerning Celtic that is probably the first time I've mentioned Catholic. I would like to see religion erradicated from all areas of all societies. I certainly don't like religion being linked with Celtic EVERY mention. I got bored of that when I was 11. I mentioned this time because it is a fact that the anti-Celtic agenda is based on anti-catholic bigotry.

The whole sorry mess makes me proud to be a Celtic fan. My passion is perhaps fuelled by bigotry experienced by me over 37 years, simply for supporting Celtic. I know we are meant to just bow our heads and say nothing but I also have a passion for equality and fairness. I will never be mastered.

get a grip.

[Kilt Uncle]

The tosser comment and subsequently yourself should have been ignored for writing that towards me.

You pretend bigotry doesn't exist or at least have a blinkered view that it is ok at certain levels. The flute bands didn't stop marching in the '70's and bigotry is alive and kicking today. Only yesterday somebody had their throat slit for wearing a Celtic top.

We can both wish religion did not play a part in Scottish football or society but it does.

I hate how Celtic and Rangers are lumped together under the collective term 'Old firm'. They are two separate entities. It's laughable to talk of a anti-Rangers conspiracy. You could expand on that if you wish. It shouldn't take long. Celtic fans generally avoid the term 'old firm' to distance themselves from Rangers. The term is often used against Celtic by lumping us togther with problems concerning them. This article from 'Scotland on Sunday' today demonstrates that a little:

Tom English: Robson: The intriguing riddle of Scotland's fifth man

'ONE BARRY Robson, there's only one Barry Robson". Actually, there are two. There must be. How else can we explain the comments of Gordon Strachan and George Burley last week? This character they both spoke of; crocked in the Cameron House hotel one minute and galloping around Celtic's training ground at Lennoxtown like a man possessed the next. Can't have been the same person, can it?

Strachan says Robson was good to go for Wednesday night's friendly against Croatia; Burley says he wasn't. Burley talked about a knee injury that Robson picked up playing against Gretna last weekend, a blow diagnosed by his medical team, Professor Stewart Hillis and Dr John MacLean, and deemed sufficiently severe to have him sent home to nurse his wound. No 'we'll monitor it over the next 24 hours' and no 'we'll give him every chance to prove his fitness'. No, it was cut and dried. Robson hadn't a prayer of making a recovery in time.

Strachan said he knew nothing about any wound, any injury. His player was "100% fit" he said. The Celtic manager was confused. He scrunched up his face in that way of his and seemed to be wondering, "Robbo? A knee? When? And if he's injured, who's that guy out there sprinting around like a lunatic? Barry, is that really you?"

In the mid-1960s, Muhammad Ali hit Sonny Liston with a punch that nobody saw. Knocked the Big Ugly Bear clean out. He called it the Phantom Punch. Everybody believed that Liston took a dive but Ali fought that talk with everything he had. "I hit so fast I switch off the light and I'm in bed before it's dark," he said. "Wanna see how fast the Phantom Punch is? (Ali stands still and doesn't move a muscle for five seconds) Wanna see it again?"

When did Robson's phantom blow land? Right under Strachan's nose apparently. Right there while he was looking on at Almondvale last Sunday afternoon. Happened after about 10 minutes apparently. Strachan missed it. Fancy that. He'd only 11 men to keep an eye on and he couldn't spot that one of them was struggling with a dodgy knee. This problem was contagious, clearly. The medical staff alongside Strachan in the dugout also didn't see anything untoward about Robson's movement. Neither, it has to be said, did Robson himself. How extraordinary it must have been for him to turn up at the Scotland camp only to be told that not only was he not fit but that he wouldn't be fit in three days' time either.

"What's the problem, doc?"

"It's your knee, son. Look at the state of it."

"Feels okay to me."

"It's like a balloon, man. You cannae play with that."

"Er, really?"


This is a curious business. We read about the controversy of the Old Firm Five last week but, really, there were only four of them. The cases of Barry Ferguson, Lee McCulloch, Christian Dailly and Allan McGregor were altogether different to Robson's. This is surely one of the first instances in the history of friendly international matches where a club offers the services of a player and the country rejects him on the grounds of an alleged dubious injury. This is so back to front it's hard to fathom.


The theories on this are obvious ones. Scotland sent a Celtic man home so as to dilute the effect of all those Rangers guys withdrawing. Hence, it could be billed as the Old Firm Five pulling out and not the Rangers Four. We don't know if that's true or not but it's a hair-raising take on things and not an unreasonable one. Strachan has done nothing to downplay his suspicions in all of this and the SFA have done nothing to quash those suspicions. They say they're waiting for an official complaint from Celtic on the matter. Then they'll investigate.

The Record broke this story on Friday. They sold it as "Celts fury at Robson SFA Riddle". The Celtic hierarchy were said to be furious and demanding an explanation as to why Robson exited the Scotland squad "against his will". We will see just how furious Celtic are. My guess is that they are angry but that they won't make a huge deal of this. Life's too short and all that. And the season's at too critical a point to be sidetracked by issues such as this.

Maybe they will go to war, but I doubt it. If they don't, that shouldn't be the end of it. The SFA ought to be asking a few discreet questions in the background after this. Burley, for one, may be wondering what the hell is going on. He has his medical staff telling him Robson is unfit and Strachan telling the country the opposite. He has the ludicrous spectacle of a player with much to offer being shunted while supposedly pleading to be left to stay in camp and prove that he is ready to play.

A small point here: if Celtic were happy for Robson to stay and Robson was happy to stay, what harm was there in allowing him to stay? Where was the downside? Wasn't Monday a little premature to be making definite calls on his fitness if Celtic were in no mad rush to have him back?

Scottish football is the subject of more storms and furies and outrages than you can shake a stick at and most of them are overblown pieces of nonsense. This is an intriguing one, though. The conflict in opinion on Robson's state of health needs resolving. Somebody is out of line here. And if Celtic don't take the lead in this matter the SFA shouldn't see that as their cue to bury it.

The tosser comment wasn't necessarily aimed at you, i merely put the cap on the chair and you decided to wear it. But that mentality is infuriating. If the rules are all against you why are you wasting your time as a club even bothering to compete? And why are you going into so much detail when it's all for nothing. It makes no sense.

I don't ignore the problems of bigotry and i mentioned them in a bit of detail. But things are getting better and they'll get even better when people allow those rediculous traditions and superstitions to fade away.

Rangers withdrew their players from the squad because they have too many important games to play as a club, and it was just a meaningless international friendly after all. If it had been a World Cup qualifier then i would share your fury, believe me. But as Rangers are still in 4 competitions and the club pay their wages then i think that the clubs should treat International friendlies with the importance they really deserve, which isn't much. What would Burley learn about established international players who have played for their countries many times anyway? These games should be an occasion to elevate young players to full international caps and try out new playing systems so that the friendly game itself can actually have some point.

I you want me to back down from the tosser remark then i'm happy to do that.

Victory has a way of making me humble. It was a beautiful goal though, you must admit?

[Kilt Uncle]

Err , Any chance you two could let us win just one measly Scottish cup ?

:D

I think only a complete bastard with a swinging brick for a heart would deny Hibernian the joy of winning the Scottish Cup.

Ignoring the fact that two of Celtic's players should have been sent off, but weren't.

Have Celtic ever lost a game fair and square? At least you can always fall back on your moral victories. :D

The Car Park Awaits

THAT referee will be dealt with by the brotherhood at the next lodge meeting..:)



Please don't bring sense into this thread. He's evidently unable to comprehend it.

[Morrissey the 23rd]

The tosser comment wasn't necessarily aimed at you, i merely put the cap on the chair and you decided to wear it. But that mentality is infuriating. If the rules are all against you why are you wasting your time as a club even bothering to compete? And why are you going into so much detail when it's all for nothing. It makes no sense.

I don't ignore the problems of bigotry and i mentioned them in a bit of detail. But things are getting better and they'll get even better when people allow those rediculous traditions and superstitions to fade away.

Rangers withdrew their players from the squad because they have too many important games to play as a club, and it was just a meaningless international friendly after all. If it had been a World Cup qualifier then i would share your fury, believe me. But as Rangers are still in 4 competitions and the club pay their wages then i think that the clubs should treat International friendlies with the importance they really deserve, which isn't much. What would Burley learn about established international players who have played for their countries many times anyway? These games should be an occasion to elevate young players to full international caps and try out new playing systems so that the friendly game itself can actually have some point.

I you want me to back down from the tosser remark then i'm happy to do that.

Victory has a way of making me humble. It was a beautiful goal though, you must admit?

Good Thompson Rangers v Celtic goal: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9t50dSgsx78

When you wrote in a post directed and in response to me, 'we have paranoid tossers at Rangers too', I find it hard to see who else other than myself it was directed at. I didn't twist your post into making it look like that.

It isn't true to say Rangers (The very sight of the Saltire should embarrass them) withdrew their players from the squad. They pretended they were injured and the SFA were complict. What is the goal of the SFA?

Nor does it make sense to say if we can't stop the cheating, we shouldn't play.

Good goal? No but it was more than we mananged and ultimately the difference that matters. Hartley carelessly put the ball out for a throw in a block tackle.Thomson (You can't be proud of his cheating, are you?) was left in space, in the middle of the Celtic half to collect a throw-in and move forward. By the time Brown noticed he was unmarked, Cheat Thomson was already planning his forward move. Samaras realises too late that nobody has picked up Thomson in the middle and Hartley fails to tackle Thomson. Naylor is daydreaming and Thomson gives him 15 metres and still overtakes him. McManus fails to put in the final vital tackle. Caldwell is AWOL. Boruc normally saves better hit shots.

When Celtic conceded the throw-in inside their own half. Like all teams should, they should immediately mark-up to ensure the opponent is limited to throwing a high ball forward. Sadly, this isn't the first time this season Celtic have been slow to mark at a throw in, but it was the most costly.

Nor can you be proud of the religious intolerance evident at Ibrox?

Do you know if the Police acted on the banner unfurled before Artur Boruc at the start of the second half mocking his religion?

The SFA should raise the matter with Rangers. Lets see if they do.

For those reading this who don't know. The banner belittled an act of Christian worship as “voodoo”. Now it is a view I hold myself but this would be taken as a deeply offensive insult and provoked media outrage if aimed at a believer of any other faith.

If Rangers are genuine about their ‘Pride over Prejudice’ campaign they must apologise to Artur Boruc and ban the offending fans. Tolerating prejudice like this is will only reinforce a reputation they claim they want rid of and will set the wrong example to another genaration of younger fans.

Rangers have a duty to ensure that in 2008 Catholic footballers are no subject to prejudice. Time to evolve.

Artur Boruc starts every half of every game he plays in the same manner, a fact that has seldom featured in the media feeding frenzy that follows each visit to Ibrox. I am sure this incident would have been witnessed by all media representatives at the match; however, on this occasion Boruc’s visit to the Rangers end of the ground went unreported. Why?

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Some stats from last weekend's EPL games:

Reading... 20 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Man City... 14 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Aston Villa... 9 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Newcastle Utd... 9 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Birmingham... 16 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 16 fouls)
Arsenal... 13 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 13 fouls)
Man Utd... 12 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 12 fouls)
Derby County... 10 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 10 fouls)
Bolton... 9 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 9 fouls)
Fulham... 5 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 5 fouls)
Sunderland... 11 fouls conceded, 2 yellow cards (1 per 5.5 fouls)
Middlesbrough... 9 fouls conceded, 2 yellow cards (1 per 4.5 fouls)
Chelsea... 11 fouls conceded, 3 yellow cards (1 per 3.67 fouls)
Liverpool... 12 fouls conceded, 4 yellow cards (1 per 3 fouls)

And in the SPL yesterday...

Rangers... 13 fouls conceded, 3 yellow cards (1 per 4.33 fouls)
Celtic... 13 fouls conceded, 5 yellow cards (1 per 2.6 fouls)

So suddenly the team that has had the best disciplinary record for the last 2 seasons, and the 2nd best this season (notwithstanding the corrupt refereeing in the first game at Ibrox), is now the dirtiest team in England and Scotland?... I don't think so.

But when you get your players booked for being fouled and for failing to concede a penalty, what can you do?!

[Albion]

I normally do an excellent job in ignoring your existence. You could ignore me too if you like? I know it's hard. I'm irresistible to follow.

Yeah, Broadfoot should have been sent off too but he plays for Rangers. Naylor was booked for dissent after that hun dived and was awarded a foul. Fair and square?

Oh, you mean Novo for raising his hand? No. Can't be him. He wasn't wearing hoops. Ah! That's why he got away with that! BTW, what does Ferguson have to do to get booked? Fair and square?

Brown is taken out of play deliberately. Ref gives offside, even though it happened after Brown went down. Fair and square?

Thomson dives, Boruc leans over and says something, Novo pushes Boruc. Boruc booked! Thomson (already on a yellow card) is then stretchered off, avoiding further punishment and waste a great deal of time. Anti-football at its best. Rangers are then allowed to make a substitution but not Celtic. Fair and square?

It is a war of attrition. Every little bit to help out Rangers and disadvantage Celtic in every game the teams play, no matter the opposition. It isn't inconsistent or poor referring, as it consistently favours Rangers and consistently disadvantages Celtic. It's plain old cheating and shamefully anti-catholic. Celtic need to be much better than Rangers to be able to win.

European games are so different. I'd love foreign refs to ref Scottish games.

Can you imagine how it must feel to win despite every dirty, corrupt, underhand, sneaky, sleekit trick the establishment could throw our your way?

In all the posts I've made over the years concerning Celtic that is probably the first time I've mentioned Catholic. I would like to see religion erradicated from all areas of all societies. I certainly don't like religion being linked with Celtic EVERY mention. I got bored of that when I was 11. I mentioned this time because it is a fact that the anti-Celtic agenda is based on anti-catholic bigotry.

The whole sorry mess makes me proud to be a Celtic fan. My passion is perhaps fuelled by bigotry experienced by me over 37 years, simply for supporting Celtic. I know we are meant to just bow our heads and say nothing but I also have a passion for equality and fairness. I will never be mastered.

Why would I wish to ignore you? I find your imaginative and deluded posts beguiling, not quite irresistible but moderately amusing. Although, you failed to entertain this time, I became hopelessly bored after the second paragraph of nonsense.

[Jukebox Jury]

Hugh

It's the Star & Garter on Friday and the Ambitious Outsiders gig in Bradford on Saturday. Any chance of that £10 before Friday? It would come in handy for the weekend;)

PS Talking of conspiracy theories, I haven't seen you mention that the top man at the SFA is Gordon Smith, former Man City, Brighton and, er, Glasgow Rangers player:D:D

Jukebox Jury

[gasmeter]

I reckon both sides of the 'Infirm' benefit from ref's when playing against the rest . I have lost count of the times Hibs have had players booked ,and then Fergushun or Donati commit similar offences or even worse ,and are gently patted on the arse from refs .

For what it's worth I reckon progress has been made by both clubs to stamp out bigotry but still have a long long way to go . I was at Ibrox 2 weeks ago and it wasn't too bad but the triumphilism and bile still goes on.

What exactly does 'We Are The People' mean anyway ? Can any Rangers fans give us a clue .

Haven't been to Parkheid for years but I suppose there are plenty questionable songs being belted out there too. Celtic's problem seems to be more with their travellling fans .



P.S Hugh , Any chance of getting Scotty B back now you all reckon he's a dud ;)

[Jukebox Jury]

Some stats from last weekend's EPL games:

Reading... 20 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Man City... 14 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Aston Villa... 9 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Newcastle Utd... 9 fouls conceded, no yellow cards
Birmingham... 16 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 16 fouls)
Arsenal... 13 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 13 fouls)
Man Utd... 12 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 12 fouls)
Derby County... 10 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 10 fouls)
Bolton... 9 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 9 fouls)
Fulham... 5 fouls conceded, 1 yellow card (1 per 5 fouls)
Sunderland... 11 fouls conceded, 2 yellow cards (1 per 5.5 fouls)
Middlesbrough... 9 fouls conceded, 2 yellow cards (1 per 4.5 fouls)
Chelsea... 11 fouls conceded, 3 yellow cards (1 per 3.67 fouls)
Liverpool... 12 fouls conceded, 4 yellow cards (1 per 3 fouls)

And in the SPL yesterday...

Rangers... 13 fouls conceded, 3 yellow cards (1 per 4.33 fouls)
Celtic... 13 fouls conceded, 5 yellow cards (1 per 2.6 fouls)



Hugh, these stats are a bit misleading, there is no mention of red cards:confused:
Birmingham had a bloke sent off with a straight red, as did Arsenal. Someone else was sent off too (cant recall who, was a bit pissed watching MOTD2 last night!!) So to say Birmingham committed 16 fouls and only had one p