Complete the list !

[Stefan R]

One of my most favourite items is the 1st LP in multi coloured vinyl
from Germany. Unfortunately I have only 6 copies of it. There are
500 copies. Anyone here who can copmlete the list with his copy ?

# 0044 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany
# 0241 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany
# 0350 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany
# 0371 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany
# 0414 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany
# 0436 Stefan Rabeneick, Germany

[sweetness]

we have one copy, but I need to find the # later!

[Inox]

Stefan, I got one copy of the German multi coloured debut LP. You're right it is a great item!

# 0333 Marcel van der Roest, Holland

Marcel

[sweetness]

we have one copy, but I need to find the # later!
It's #263 :)

[Bubba Zanetti]

Hi,
#406 Emmanuel, France.
I bought it in Paris in 2002 and I confirm, it is really amazing!

[ALLIE WALLS]

Hi i have #247 bought from Essen in Germany and #208 from Berlin,theres one on the Morrissey madness site for £4oo cant remember what no though.

Alan

[ALLIE WALLS]

A few were signed on the label by all 4 band members and
given as gifts to close friends and Rough Trade employees
couldve picked one up from London via Record collector mag for £300
about 2 years ago but sorry to say i left it.


Alan

[robertzombie]

Any pics? I'd like to see what's so special about it :).

[steve c]

mine is #0419, which I picked up in Amsterdam in 1985 and managed to get it signed on the cover by Morrissey later that year

[Walkers Crisp]

#0011 is here.

[Stefan R]

nonsens,

# 00011 is in japan

[Walkers Crisp]

Well it used to be in Japan - but now it's here in Augsburg :D.

Ehrlich. Honestly.

[Del]

Hi,
I have a copy. The number is 40 something !! I'll have to check.
Now a couple of quick questions:
I have seen these for sale with or without picture sleeves. Were all 500 issued in a picture sleeve or not ??
Does the number make much difference to the value ?? Does it really matter if it is number 50 or 500 as long as you have one ??
Cheers,
Del.

[Stefan R]

the first copies i picked up without a picture sleeve,
when i found a copy with a sleeve, i thought first that
someone just add it to the record, just to make more
money when selling it. while i am collecting,
more and more copies turned up with a picture
sleeve, so it seems that a part of the 1st lp
official came out with a picture sleeve.

the numbers were printed onto stickers
and then stuck on the label, it doenst follow
that no. 1 was pressed before no. 500,
but its proximity to zero wont determine its value.
no 1 is even rare than no 500 !

nevertheless i of course would like to obtain
no. 1, but no. 1 probably does not exist anymore.

hope this helps.
Stefan




Hi,
I have a copy. The number is 40 something !! I'll have to check.
Now a couple of quick questions:
I have seen these for sale with or without picture sleeves. Were all 500 issued in a picture sleeve or not ??
Does the number make much difference to the value ?? Does it really matter if it is number 50 or 500 as long as you have one ??
Cheers,
Del.

[beau]

I've seen these with and without pictures sleeves, as well.

1 may actually be less rare than other numbers, even though it is he most sought after. Often times there are several no. 1's made; for bigwigs at the record company, and the artist. I believe there were 6 White Album no. 1's, for example.

[Walkers Crisp]

Info from passionsjustlikemine.com (thanks as always to Stephane):

"Germany: Rough Trade Deutschland took special care in promoting the Smiths' debut album over their territory by printing a limited (400 to 500) and numbered LP on multicoloured vinyl (RTD25). The record was usually slipped inside a generic die cut sleeve showing the label, on which the series number sticker was applied. It must be said that some copies were distributed inside the stock sleeve. The record usually came with a one-page or a three-page press release. Some copies included 2 promo postcards".

Does anyone have the press release that came with it originally?

[Stefan R]

yes, you are right beau.

some copies of the 1st lp came out with
a glossy promo sheet and/or 2 postcards,
these copy havent got a sleeve.

in my opinion hihgly collactable and slightly
more worth than a copy witha a sleeve.

btw, who says that exactly 500 copies came out ?
i never saw a copy numbered over 450.
so its possible that less than 500 were
made.

Stefan

[Still ILL]

I have no 171 :)

[Walkers Crisp]

For me it's the most beautiful Smiths item EVER....just needed to hold one of those in me greedy little fingers :o.

Will post pictures of mine tomorrow.

lv
crsp

Stefan, du hast nur 6 Stück davon???

[Stefan R]

Stefan, du hast nur 6 Stück davon???

.... six copies should be enough.
show me one person in the world who
has got more copies and i will give you
one for free :-))))

i will try to post the promo sheet and postcards
next days.

it really seems that the records was limited
to 450 and NOT 500.

Stefan

[Stephane]

it really seems that the records was limited to 450 and NOT 500.

-Like Beau said there might be more than one #001.
-I have seen some copies that were not numbered.
-Sometimes the last few ones get never dispatched and are thrown out.

If you add that up, it may come closer to 500. Not that it matters much... 450 or 500.

Stephane

[Walkers Crisp]

Here's the beauty..and I'm totally in love with it :o

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6838/marbledsmiths4ah2.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9171/marbledsmiths7gp0.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2740/marbledsmiths5pb6.jpg

[robertzombie]

Wow! :D

[Grim O'Grady]

Here's the beauty..and I'm totally in love with it :o

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6838/marbledsmiths4ah2.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9171/marbledsmiths7gp0.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2740/marbledsmiths5pb6.jpg

that's gorgeous Crisp now put it away nice n safe dear!

love

Grim

[ALLIE WALLS]

What are peoples opinions regarding the so called distinct 2 versions of this disc where the colours are more blended in together than the one pictured?
I saw one go for £700 on ebay a while back. Any thoughts Stephane?

[Stephane]

What are peoples opinions regarding the so called distinct 2 versions of this disc where the colours are more blended in together than the one pictured? Any thoughts Stephane?

They're the result of the randomness of the colour input so there aren't two identical copies of any multi-coloured vinyl. I've seen some of these that were almost only red, another one only a mix of green and purple... I think those are more collectible than trying to get the smallest number. #0008 is just as rare as #0127 and #0432, but these freak colour mixes stand out more from the others.

Stephane

[Walkers Crisp]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4690/mispressqn6.jpg

Here's a photo of one of the mispressed copies. More info on it here: http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=160026810662

It's very nice.

[Grim O'Grady]

They're the result of the randomness of the colour input so there aren't two identical copies of any multi-coloured vinyl. I've seen some of these that were almost only red, another one only a mix of green and purple... I think those are more collectible than trying to get the smallest number. #0008 is just as rare as #0127 and #0432, but these freak colour mixes stand out more from the others.

Stephane

whilst you are correct Stephane about #0432 being has rare as #0008 I know which one I'd rather have!

love

Grim

[Ordinary Mayo]

btw: are there any fakes known of these to be circulated?

[beau]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4690/mispressqn6.jpg

Here's a photo of one of the mispressed copies. More info on it here: http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=160026810662

It's very nice.

I have no idea what that guys on about. I would imagine that the wax would have to be hand-inserted into the machine to get patterns like on these. As for there being 2 unique ones, I find that hard to believe, and I also find it hard to belive that someone would pay more for a particular pattern.

[ALLIE WALLS]

Heres my beauty,quite different from the regular copies
Alan

[Walkers Crisp]

Gosh, Alan..yours is quite extraordinary. :eek:
Erm..I have a spare "Two Lumps Please" Mug, in case you want to trade...;.)

-crsp-
(just kidding)

[Blackdeath]

#302 Caerleon, Wales

Bought at Bristol Record fair in 1984 and going on ebay at 2015 this evening if anybody is interested. BTW, it came in a stock sleeve with no postcards or promo sheet.

You cannot imagine how much it will hurt to sell this!:tears:

[Dave2006]

#302 Caerleon, Wales

Bought at Bristol Record fair in 1984 and going on ebay at 2015 this evening if anybody is interested. BTW, it came in a stock sleeve with no postcards or promo sheet.

You cannot imagine how much it will hurt to sell this!:tears:

Post the ebay link when you list it....I suspect that Stefan will want number 6:guitar: I'd quite like number 1 :(

[Stefan R]

Post the ebay link when you list it....I suspect that Stefan will want number 6:guitar: I'd quite like number 1 :(



definitely ! # 6 will be my # 10.

i am almost sure that # 1 is not in collectors hand,
there are many, many records which ended up in the trash,
because people had not know what they worth.


Stefan R

[Blackdeath]

# 302 on ebay right now. (Sob!)

As requested, the link is
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=120308841972

[Dave2006]

I guess my comment got lost in translation, Stefan. I was cracking a joke about you collecting your 6th copy whilst I'm still looking for my 1st.

A couple of months ago you out bid me on ebay for one, you swine :mad:

I'd be happy to settle for any number, even 302:) I'm sure that the people who got a #1 will know what they have and it will not have ended up in the bin.

Dave


definitely ! # 6 will be my # 10.

i am almost sure that # 1 is not in collectors hand,
there are many, many records which ended up in the trash,
because people had not know what they worth.


Stefan R

[ALLIE WALLS]

What Stefan meant was it will be his 10th copy not his 6th. I sold him his 8th in April i wonder if this will top the 400 pounds mark

Alan

[Stefan R]

What Stefan meant was it will be his 10th copy not his 6th. I sold him his 8th in April i wonder if this will top the 400 pounds mark

Alan

400 UKP seems to be a bit much, i am actually not sure
if i will bid on it, because i am on holdiday when the auction
ends. i have to ask my brother bid for me.

GOOD LUCK, Dave :)

Alan if you ever wanna sell your "last" copy, let me know
and i will come for a tea. ;)



Stefan R

[Dave2006]

Just go on holiday, relax, forget about it ;)
Where are you going, anywhere nice?

400 UKP seems to be a bit much, i am actually not sure
if i will bid on it, because i am on holdiday when the auction
ends. i have to ask my brother bid for me.

GOOD LUCK, Dave :)

Alan if you ever wanna sell your "last" copy, let me know
and i will come for a tea. ;)



Stefan R

[Stefan R]

Just go on holiday, relax, forget about it ;)
Where are you going, anywhere nice?

Dave, i will of course relax and hear if i got
it, not until i return.

btw, i will send you a picture when my baby # 10
is here, so you can make a print of it. with a
bit of luck the print will play all Smiths songs
:guitar:

i am going to a small island here in germany,
to be called "Sylt", near Denmark.

Stefan R

[ALLIE WALLS]

Stefan,I know you re away on holiday but i have to know did you get no 10?

[Stefan R]

Stefan,I know you re away on holiday but i have to know did you get no 10?


yep, i got it ;)

Stefan R

[blameless]

#434 Tony Australia.