The Smiths Box Set?

[Dave2006]

I've just made a post on the main site suggesting that the bootleggers on this site recreate each smiths album as live versions.

We could wait forever for Messers Morrissey, Marr, Rourke and Joyce, plus the brothers Warner to agree to an official box set, so why ot create a morrisseysolo box set?

No idea if my suggestion could go anywhere, but I thought I'd post the link here to see if any active filesharers / bootleggers would be interested.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/comments.pl?sid=26169&cid=258142

[SNS22]

I've just made a post on the main site suggesting that the bootleggers on this site recreate each smiths album as live versions.

We could wait forever for Messers Morrissey, Marr, Rourke and Joyce, plus the brothers Warner to agree to an official box set, so why ot create a morrisseysolo box set?

No idea if my suggestion could go anywhere, but I thought I'd post the link here to see if any active filesharers / bootleggers would be interested.

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/comments.pl?sid=26169&cid=258142

Well...The Smiths would lack Suffer Little Children

Meat Is Murder would lack Well I Wonder

The World Won't Listen would lack You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby, Asleep, Rubber Ring, Oscillate Wildly,

Strangeways would be impossible, since "The Smiths' never played any of the songs live...

As for Louder Than Bombs, there would be duplication except for Is It Really So Strange...Golden Lights, Shelia Take A Bow and Sweet And Tender Hooligan were never played live by The Smiths

Intriguing otherwise...

[robertzombie]

Asleep, Shoplifters and Sheila Take A Bow were all performed live by The Smiths.

[NIPPON]

And Is It Really So Strange Too

[SNS22]

Asleep, Shoplifters and Sheila Take A Bow were all performed live by The Smiths.

Meant Unloveable instead of Asleep....

Didn't mention that Shoplifters wasn't performed...

Shelia Take A bow was ONLY performed on The Tube...do we count that?

[SNS22]

And Is It Really So Strange Too

As for Louder Than Bombs, there would be duplication except for Is It Really So Strange......

The ...... indicated a STOP meaning that all The songs on the Louder Than Bombs are duplicate of Hatful Of Hollow and World Won't Listen...

Then I went on to list the songs that were never played live...


Hence I was stating that the only song from Louder Than Bombs that was played live that wouldn't be duplicate is Is It Really So Strange?

Perhaps, I should stop speaking in tongues and just get to the point next time

[SNS22]

May I suggest...

THE SMITHS
The Butterfly Collector for these songs:

The Hand That Rocks The Cradle
Jeane
What Do You See In Him

Manchester Hacienda 7-6-83
Accept Yourself
Wonderful Woman

El Dorado, Paris 1984 for these songs:
You've Got Everything Now (I prefer the Oxford Apollo version, myself)
Miserable Lie (also prefer Oxford Apollo)
Pretty Girls Make Graves
This Charming Man
Still Ill (I prefer the Rank Version)
Hand In Glove
What Difference Does It Make

Amsterdam 4-21-84 for this song
I Don't Owe You Anything

Paris 12-1-84 for:
Reel Around The Fountain

HATFUL OF HOLLOW
Willam, It Was Really Nothing (Paris 12-1-84, Oxford Apollo)
These Things Take Time (Eldorado Paris)
How Soon Is Now? (Paris 12-1-84, Dances With Octopuses)
Handsome Devil (El Dorado Paris)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (El Dorado Paris)
This Night Has Opened My Eyes (El Dorado Paris)
Girl Afraid (El Dorado Paris)
Back To THe Old House (Hamersmith Palais, London 3-12-84)
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)

MEAT IS MURDER
Headmaster Ritual (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85)
Rusholme Ruffians (Madrid 5-20-85, RANK)
I Want The One I Can't Have (Madrid 5-20-85, Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)
What She Said (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85, Rank)
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85, Irvine Meadows 8-27)
Nowhere Fast (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85)
Barbarism Begins At Home (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85)
Meat Is Murder (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85)

THE QUEEN IS DEAD
The Queen Is Dead (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, RANK)
Frankly Mr. Shankly (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)
I Know It's Over (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, RANK)
Never Had No One Ever (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)
Cemetry Gates (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, RANK)
Bigmouth Strikes Again (Manchester 7-19-86, RANK)
The Boy With A Thorn In His Side (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, RANK)
Vicar In A Tutu (Manchester 7-19-86, Rank)
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Brixton Academy 12-12-86)

THE WORLD WON'T LISTEN/LOUDER THAN BOMBS
Panic (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, Rank)
Ask (Manchester 7-19-86, Rank)
London (Rank)
Shakespeare's Sister (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85, Manchester 7-19-86)
Shoplifters Of The World Unite (Brixton Academy 12=12-86)
Asleep (Inverness, Scotland 10-1-85)
Stretch Out And Wait (Oxford Apollo 3-18-85, Irvine Meadows 8-27-86)
Is It Really So Strange (Irvine Meadows 8-27-86, Rank)

Now who has the time for all that??

Give me a few hours...my daughters watching TV...I should have time

[smorrissey]

yes, yes, everybody upload the smiths BSIDES!!!

EXcelente idea from the cd sources!!

We can recreate this better:

*: Frankly Mr. Shankly (Alternate version)
Money Changes Everything (w/ Brian Ferry on vocals)
(Complete) I Want A Boy For My Birthday
(Complete) Cowbell-Click Track
etc, etc...

THE SMITHS F#1 OUTTAKES /1

01/ Hand In Glove 3:15
02/ This Charming Man (12” Single) 2:42
03/ Jeane (demo) 3:05
04/ Accept Yourself 3:57
05/ Wonderful Woman 3:10
06/ Back To The Old House 3:04
07/ These Things Take Time 2:23
08/ Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now 3:34
09/ Girl Afraid 2:48
10/ William, It Was Really Nothing 2:10
11/ Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want 1:52
12/ How Soon Is Now? 6:44
13/ Shakespeare's Sister 2:08
14/ Oscillate Wildly (Instrumental) 3:26
15/ Stretch Out And Wait 2:38
16/ Golden Lights* 2:40 //Mixes:
17/ This Charming Man (Manchester) 2:42
18/ This Charming Man (London) 2:47
19/ This Charming Man (New York) 5:35
20/ This Charming Man (New York instrumental) 4:19
21/ This Charming Man (Single remix) 2:46

THE SMITHS F#2 OUTTAKES /2

01/ How Soon Is Now? (12” Single -Italy) 7:03
02/ The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (Single version) 3:16
03/ Rubber Ring (12”Single) 3:56
/ Asleep (12” Single) 4:10
05/ Money Changes Everything (Instrumental) 4:39
06/ Unloveable 3:56
07/ Panic 2:21
08/ The Draize Train (Instrumental) 5:09
09/ Ask 3:15
10/ Shoplifters Of The World Unite 2:58
11/ London 2:07
12/ Half A Person 3:36
13/ You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby 3:32
14/ Sheila Take A Bow 2:41
15/ Work Is A Four Letter Word* 2:47
16/ I Keep Mine Hidden 2:00
17/ What's The World? (Live)** 2:13 //The Smiths & Sandie Shaw on vocals:
18/ Hand In Glove (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:58
19/ Jeane (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:52
20/ I Don't Owe You Anything (w/ Sandie Shaw) 4:06

THE SMITHS F#3 DEMOS

“The Hand That Rocks The Cradle” /Versions for the debut album /Produced by Troy Tate:
01/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo) 6:15
02/ You've Got Everything Now (Demo) 4:25
03/ Miserable Lie (Demo) 4:49
04/ These Things Take Time (Demo) 2:45
05/ Wonderful Woman (Demo) 3:26
06/ Handsome Devil (Demo) 2:56
07/ Hand In Glove (Demo) 3:27
08/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo) 4:10
09/ I Don't Owe You Anything (Demo) 4:34
10/ Suffer Little Children (Demo) 5:52
11/ Pretty Girls Make Graves (Troy Tate Version) 3:42
12/ Jeane (Troy Tate version) 3:05 //Troy Tate demos /Outtakes:
13/ Accept Yourself (Demo) 4:05
14/ The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (Demo) 5:18 //Troy Tate demos /Versions:
15/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo -2nd versions) 5:59
16/ Miserable Lie (Demo -2nd version) 4:37
17/ Wonderful Woman (Demo -2nd version) 3:20
18/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo -2nd version) 3:22

THE SMITHS F#4 RADIO SESSIONS /1 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -31.05.1983:
01/ Handsome Devil (BBC session) 2:45
02/ Reel Around The Fountain (BBC session) 5:51
03/ Miserable Lie (BBC session) 4:37
04/ What Difference Does It Make? (BBC session) 3:11 //David Jensen Show -BBC Radio One /UK -04.07.1983:
05/ These Things Take Time (BBC session) 2:33
06/ You've Got Everything Now (BBC session) 4:18
07/ Wonderful Woman (BBC session) 3:15
08/ Hand In Glove (Live in London -1983) 2:46 //David Jensen Show -BBC Radio One /UK -09.1983:
09/ Accept Yourself (BBC session) 4:02
10/ I Don't Owe You Anything (BBC session) 4:12
11/ Pretty Girls Make Graves (BBC session) 3:32
12/ Reel Around The Fountain (BBC session -2nd version) 6:04

THE SMITHS F#5 RADIO SESSIONS /2 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -21.09.1983:
01/ This Charming Man (BBC session) 2:44
02/ Back To The Old House (BBC session) 3:02
03/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (BBC session) 3:39
04/ Still Ill (BBC session) 3:34 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -09.08.1984:
05/ William, It Was Really Nothing (BBC session) 2:04
06/ Nowhere Fast (BBC session) 2:41
07/ Rusholme Ruffians (BBC session) 4:07
08/ How Soon Is Now? (BBC session) 6:37 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -17.12.1986:
09/ Is It Really So Strange? (BBC session) 3:04
10/ London (BBC session) 2:05
11/ Half A Person (BBC session) 3:29
12/ Sweet And Tender Hooligan (BBC session) 3:35 //Saturday Live -Radio One /UK -14.04.1984:
13/ I Don't Owe You Anything (Live w/ Sandie Shaw) 3:58
14/ Jeane (LIVE W/ Sandie Shaw) 3:06

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THE SMITHS (F#10) AT THE BEEB // “The Smiths At The Beeb” /One hour special including sessions appearances, excerpts of past interviews of Morrissey, Marr as well as contributions by John Peel, David Jensen, John Porter and Scott Piering.

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THE SMITHS F#6 TV SESSIONS //Y.E.S. 09.02.1984:
01/ What Difference Does It Make? (TV session) 2:48
02/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (TV session) 3:19 //The Tube 16.03.1984:
03/ Hand in Glove (TV session) 2:47
04/ Still Ill (TV session) 3:36
05/ Barbarism Begins At Home (TV session) 6:36
06/ Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (TV session) 3:15 //Datarun 07.04.1984:
07/ Still Ill (Excerpt) 2:22
/ This Charming Man (Live -Acoustic version)
/ Hand In Glove (Excerpt) //Splat! 04.1984:
08/ Jeane (TV -Live w/ Sandie Shaw on vocals) 1:53 //Whistle Test 20.05.1986:
09/ Bigmouth Strikes Again (TV session) 3:28
10/ Vicar In A Tutu (TV session) 2:31 //Eurotube 05.07.1986:
11/ There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (TV session) 4:21
12/ Panic (TV session) 3:28 //The Tube 10.04.1987:
13/ Sheila Take A Bow (TV session) 2:42
14/ Shoplifters The World Unite (TV session) 3:22

THE SMITHS F#7 LIVE

01/ I Want A Boy For My Birthday* (Live excerpt -1982) 0:29
02/ Handsome Devil (Live in Manchester -1983) 2:56
03/ Wonderful Woman -aka What Do You See In Him? (Live in Manchester -1983) 3:13
04/ Hand In Glove (Live in London -1983) 2:46
05/ Girl Afraid (Live in Glasgow -1984) 2:53
06/ Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want (Live in Dublin -1984) 2:22
07/ You've Got Everything Now (Live in Amsterdam -1984 /Radio Broadcast) 5:55
08/ William, It Was Really Nothing (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:15
09/ Nowhere Fast (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:31
10/ What She Said (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:36
11/ Stretch Out And Wait (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:55
12/ Shakespeare's Sister (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:13
13/ Meat Is Murder (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 5:38
14/ Miserable Lie (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 5:15
15/ Barbarism Begins At Home (Live w/ Pete Burns, London -1985) 8:23
16/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (Live in London -12.12.1986) 3:34
17/ Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Live in London -1986) 5:02

THE SMITHS F#8 LIVE AT HOME
(OR MAYBE OTHER GOOD LATE SMITHS SHOW...) //Live at University Of Salford /Salford, UK -20.07.1986

THE SMITHS F#9 SOUNCHECKS
(OR MAYBE AN EARLY SMITHS SHOW, INSTEAD...)

[smorrissey]

Oh man i think i have them all already....:(

shitty quality though...

[SNS22]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HXLZVO4D

Vol 1 "The Smiths-Live"

1 Reel Around The Fountain (Versailles, Paris 12-1-84)
2 You've Got Everything Now (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
3 Miserable Lie (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
4 Pretty Girls Make Graves (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
5 The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
6 This Charming Man (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
7 Still Ill (Irivine Meadows, CA 8-27-86)
8 Hand In Glove (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
9 What Difference Does It Make? (El Dorado Paris, 5-9-84)
10 I Don't Owe You Anything (Vinyl Party, Amsterdam 4-21-84)
11 What Do You See In Him? (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
12 Jeane (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
13 Wonderful Woman (Hacienda Manchester 7-6-83)

All Songs Soundboard (Source,Radio, or TV)

[smorrissey]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HXLZVO4D

Vol 1 "The Smiths-Live"

1 Reel Around The Fountain (Versailles, Paris 12-1-84)
2 You've Got Everything Now (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
3 Miserable Lie (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
4 Pretty Girls Make Graves (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
5 The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
6 This Charming Man (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
7 Still Ill (Irivine Meadows, CA 8-27-86)
8 Hand In Glove (El Dorado, Paris 5-9-84)
9 What Difference Does It Make? (El Dorado Paris, 5-9-84)
10 I Don't Owe You Anything (Vinyl Party, Amsterdam 4-21-84)
11 What Do You See In Him? (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
12 Jeane (Hacienda, Manchester 2-4-83)
13 Wonderful Woman (Hacienda Manchester 7-6-83)

All Songs Soundboard (Source,Radio, or TV)


Megaupload no friend please nooooooo megaupload suckssss..

sendspace is better..... please

no slots for my country. limited downloads megaupload megasucks

[SNS22]

Megaupload no friend please nooooooo megaupload suckssss..

sendspace is better..... please

no slots for my country. limited downloads megaupload megasucks

What country?

Will post to sendspace for you

[smorrissey]

What country?

Will post to sendspace for you

I really think that the guys of megaupload discriminate.

The States and England have no problems and i think europe neither but the rest of the world........oh my god!

1) I can only download after 5:00 PM (even if i dowloaded the toolbar). There are no slots free before that time.

2) I can only download 400MB per day from my IP not more.

And this S#$T happens everyday.....:mad:


by the way how old are you? where are you from?
i read that you have girls congratulations!

[SNS22]

Mexico city my friend. I really think that the guys of megaupload discriminate.

The States and England have no problems and i think europe neither but the rest of the world........oh my god!

1) I can only download after 5:00 PM (even if i dowloaded the toolbar). There are no slots free before that time.

2) I can only download 400MB per day from my IP not more.

And this S#$T happens everyday.....:mad:


by the way how old are you? where are you from?
i read that you have girls congratulations!

I know there is a limit here too, I've been stopped and told I have to wait 400 minutes or something before...I just prefer it because they don't expire as easily, and since I got the toolbar, I can do multiple uploads especially before I go to sleep and they're all done automatically...

[smorrissey]

I know there is a limit here too, I've been stopped and told I have to wait 400 minutes or something before...I just prefer it because they don't expire as easily, and since I got the toolbar, I can do multiple uploads especially before I go to sleep and they're all done automatically...

Oh, i didn't know that, if its better for you its ok, i'm gonna dowload one of your files per day. Thanks. :)

[SNS22]

Sendspace link for you

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xf0k7s

[SNS22]

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Vol 3-"Meat Is Murder" Live

1 The Headmaster Ritual (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
2 Rusholme Ruffians (Versailles, Paris 12-1-84)
3 I Want The One I Can't Have (Irvine Meadows, CA 8-27-86)
4 What She Said (Oxford, Apollo 3-18-85)
5 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
6 How Soon Is Now?* (Irvine Meadows, CA 8-27-86)
7 Nowhere Fast (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
8 Barbarism Begins At Home (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)
9 Meat Is Murder (Apollo, Oxford 3-18-85)

In the spirit of Reissuing, Repacking, Recyling, I included a bonus version of How Soon Is Now? from The Queen Is Dead Tour....

[SNS22]

Vol 3-"The Queen Is Dead" Live

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OD5Z97J0

1 The Queen Is Dead (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
2 Frankly, Mr. Shankly (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
3 I Know It's Over (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
4 Never Had No One Ever (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
5 Cemetry Gates (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
6 Bigmouth Strikes Again (G-Mex, Manchester 7/19/86)
7 The Boy With A Thorn In His Side (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
8 Vicar In A Tutu (G-Mex, Manchester 7/19/86)
9 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
10 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Brixton Academy, London 12/12/86)

All Songs From Soundboard/Radio Broadcast....

[SNS22]

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Vol 4 "The World Won't Listen"-Live

1 Panic (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
2 Ask (G-Mex, Manchester 7/19/86)
3 London (National Ballroom, Kilburn 10/23/86)
4 Bigmouth Strikes Again (Barrowlands, Glasgow 9/25/85)
5 Shakespeare's Sister (Apollo, Oxford 3/18/85)
6 There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (G-Mex, Manchester 7/19/86)
7 Shoplifters Of The World Unite* (Brixton Academy, London 12/12/86)
8 The Boy With A Thorn In His Side (Barrowlands, Glasgow 9/25/85)
9 Asleep* (Inverness, Scotland 10/1/85)
10 Unloveable* (Soundcheck Inverness, Scotland 10/1/85)
11 Stretch Out And Wait (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
12 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
13 Money Changes Everything (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
14 Is It Really So Strange (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)
15 Rubber Ring (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)

All Soundboard/Radio except *

Money Changes Everything in place of Osciallate Wildly
Is It Really So Strange in place of Half A Person
Rubber Ring is an edit I made of the opening and ending of the medley...hope I don't offend anyone with that one...

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Vol 2- 'Hatful Of Hollow" Live

1 William, It Was Really Nothing (Apollo, Oxford 3/18/85)
2 What Difference Does It Make (Hacienda, Manchester 2/4/83)
3 These Things Take Time (Hacienda, Manchester 7/6/83)
4 This Charming Man (Vinyl Party, Amsterdam 4/21/84)
5 How Soon Is Now? (Apollo, Oxford 3/18/85)
6 Handsome Devil (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
7 Hand In Glove (Brixton Ace, London 6/29/83)
8 Still Ill (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
9 Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
10 This Night Has Opened My Eyes (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
11 You've Got Everything Now (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
12 Accept Yourself (Hacienda, Manchester 7/6/83)
13 Girl Afraid (El Dorado, Paris 5/9/84)
14 Back To The Old House (Hammesmith Palis, London 3/12/84)
15 Reel Around The Fountain (Assembly Rooms, Derby 12/7/83)
16 Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (Irvine Meadows, CA 8/27/86)

In The Spirit of Recycling I included some of the earlier performances of tracks already on The Smiths....most notably These Things Take Time with the drum roll, and This Charming Man with a gritty bass sound

[Smug]

Sendspace link for you

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xf0k7s
Many, many thanks for Sendspace link - more please!!!!!

Am one of many apparently who have probs with Megaupload - v frustrating!

Thanks again

[Dave2006]

This site is brilliant.
I post a suggestion at 9.50pm (in UK) with an idea that I thought would take months to see to fruition.
I log on at work to find an email saying someone has posted a reply, log on to the site to find that the box set has been completed!

I work in community development, we say a lot that process is as important as product - meaning that sometimes that way that we do a task (consultative, value based etc) is as important as the end result (achieving social good). But it goes out of the window with this site. Don't hang about just post up the albums.

Brilliant!

Thank for everyone's contributions so far. I will download and enjoy them later.

Now.....what about the artwork?

Cheers
Dave

[smorrissey]

Oh man these are jewels and me unable to download anything from megashitty...:mad:

Somebody knows a crack that works for megaupload. i've tried all but nothing works. :(

[Dave2006]

What about Rank?
Should there be a studio version of it - don't worry I'm not asking for that.

Could we include the full concert?

Or do you think the piece de la resistance should be the best Smiths concert ever.....any nominations for which gig that should be?

I have a fondness for Salford University because that is my alma mater...

[smorrissey]

What about Rank?
Should there be a studio version of it - don't worry I'm not asking for that.

Could we include the full concert?

Or do you think the piece de la resistance should be the best Smiths concert ever.....any nominations for which gig that should be?

I have a fondness for Salford University because that is my alma mater...

which is "the piece de la resistance"?

A France gig?

[SNS22]

What about Rank?
Should there be a studio version of it - don't worry I'm not asking for that.

Could we include the full concert?

Or do you think the piece de la resistance should be the best Smiths concert ever.....any nominations for which gig that should be?

I have a fondness for Salford University because that is my alma mater...


The problem with Rank is that although you could add the tracks from the FM Radio Broadcast (There Is A Light, How Soon Is Now, and Frankly Mr. Shankly), but you still miss out on I Want The One I Can't Have, Never Had No One Ever, and Meat Is Murder...and to mix in the Audience recording to me would defeat the purpose...

As for best Smths concert ever, would be difficult since I think many people who frequent this site were not fortunate to see The Smiths live, and it's difficult to judge based on recordings..however, that shouldn't stop people from doing so if they want to...

Based on recording..I would have to chose Irvine Meadows, LA 1986 and Apollo, Manchester 1985 and both of those have been widely distibuted...

[Dave2006]

which is "the piece de la resistance"?

A France gig?

Maybe I should have typed it with the propper accents:
Pièce de résistance is a French term (circa 1839), translated into English literally as "piece of resistance", referring to the best part or feature of something (as in a meal), a showpiece, or highlight.

As far as I am aware there is no Smiths bootleg called Pièce de résistance

Sorry for the confusion.

[smorrissey]

Maybe I should have typed it with the propper accents:
Pièce de résistance is a French term (circa 1839), translated into English literally as "piece of resistance", referring to the best part or feature of something (as in a meal), a showpiece, or highlight.

As far as I am aware there is no Smiths bootleg called Pièce de résistance

Sorry for the confusion.

I learn something new today!. Thanks for clarify!

J'aime la langue francaise!!
Je parle trés bien francais
je suis un garcon trés beau!!

The Smith est un groupe trés magnifique!! and J'aime le cul de Alizée!!

c'est Alizée:
http://www.absolutecelebrities.com/img/alizee/Hydargos_Alizee_ParisMatch260603_01-edit.jpg

Que buena esta! yo le daba por delante y por detras. =)

[SNS22]

yes, yes, everybody upload the smiths BSIDES!!!

EXcelente idea from the cd sources!!

We can recreate this better:

*: Frankly Mr. Shankly (Alternate version)
Money Changes Everything (w/ Brian Ferry on vocals)
(Complete) I Want A Boy For My Birthday
(Complete) Cowbell-Click Track
etc, etc...

THE SMITHS F#1 OUTTAKES /1

01/ Hand In Glove 3:15
02/ This Charming Man (12” Single) 2:42
03/ Jeane (demo) 3:05
04/ Accept Yourself 3:57
05/ Wonderful Woman 3:10
06/ Back To The Old House 3:04
07/ These Things Take Time 2:23
08/ Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now 3:34
09/ Girl Afraid 2:48
10/ William, It Was Really Nothing 2:10
11/ Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want 1:52
12/ How Soon Is Now? 6:44
13/ Shakespeare's Sister 2:08
14/ Oscillate Wildly (Instrumental) 3:26
15/ Stretch Out And Wait 2:38
16/ Golden Lights* 2:40 //Mixes:
17/ This Charming Man (Manchester) 2:42
18/ This Charming Man (London) 2:47
19/ This Charming Man (New York) 5:35
20/ This Charming Man (New York instrumental) 4:19
21/ This Charming Man (Single remix) 2:46

THE SMITHS F#2 OUTTAKES /2

01/ How Soon Is Now? (12” Single -Italy) 7:03
02/ The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (Single version) 3:16
03/ Rubber Ring (12”Single) 3:56
/ Asleep (12” Single) 4:10
05/ Money Changes Everything (Instrumental) 4:39
06/ Unloveable 3:56
07/ Panic 2:21
08/ The Draize Train (Instrumental) 5:09
09/ Ask 3:15
10/ Shoplifters Of The World Unite 2:58
11/ London 2:07
12/ Half A Person 3:36
13/ You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby 3:32
14/ Sheila Take A Bow 2:41
15/ Work Is A Four Letter Word* 2:47
16/ I Keep Mine Hidden 2:00
17/ What's The World? (Live)** 2:13 //The Smiths & Sandie Shaw on vocals:
18/ Hand In Glove (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:58
19/ Jeane (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:52
20/ I Don't Owe You Anything (w/ Sandie Shaw) 4:06

THE SMITHS F#3 DEMOS

“The Hand That Rocks The Cradle” /Versions for the debut album /Produced by Troy Tate:
01/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo) 6:15
02/ You've Got Everything Now (Demo) 4:25
03/ Miserable Lie (Demo) 4:49
04/ These Things Take Time (Demo) 2:45
05/ Wonderful Woman (Demo) 3:26
06/ Handsome Devil (Demo) 2:56
07/ Hand In Glove (Demo) 3:27
08/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo) 4:10
09/ I Don't Owe You Anything (Demo) 4:34
10/ Suffer Little Children (Demo) 5:52
11/ Pretty Girls Make Graves (Troy Tate Version) 3:42
12/ Jeane (Troy Tate version) 3:05 //Troy Tate demos /Outtakes:
13/ Accept Yourself (Demo) 4:05
14/ The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (Demo) 5:18 //Troy Tate demos /Versions:
15/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo -2nd versions) 5:59
16/ Miserable Lie (Demo -2nd version) 4:37
17/ Wonderful Woman (Demo -2nd version) 3:20
18/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo -2nd version) 3:22

THE SMITHS F#4 RADIO SESSIONS /1 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -31.05.1983:
01/ Handsome Devil (BBC session) 2:45
02/ Reel Around The Fountain (BBC session) 5:51
03/ Miserable Lie (BBC session) 4:37
04/ What Difference Does It Make? (BBC session) 3:11 //David Jensen Show -BBC Radio One /UK -04.07.1983:
05/ These Things Take Time (BBC session) 2:33
06/ You've Got Everything Now (BBC session) 4:18
07/ Wonderful Woman (BBC session) 3:15
08/ Hand In Glove (Live in London -1983) 2:46 //David Jensen Show -BBC Radio One /UK -09.1983:
09/ Accept Yourself (BBC session) 4:02
10/ I Don't Owe You Anything (BBC session) 4:12
11/ Pretty Girls Make Graves (BBC session) 3:32
12/ Reel Around The Fountain (BBC session -2nd version) 6:04

THE SMITHS F#5 RADIO SESSIONS /2 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -21.09.1983:
01/ This Charming Man (BBC session) 2:44
02/ Back To The Old House (BBC session) 3:02
03/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (BBC session) 3:39
04/ Still Ill (BBC session) 3:34 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -09.08.1984:
05/ William, It Was Really Nothing (BBC session) 2:04
06/ Nowhere Fast (BBC session) 2:41
07/ Rusholme Ruffians (BBC session) 4:07
08/ How Soon Is Now? (BBC session) 6:37 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -17.12.1986:
09/ Is It Really So Strange? (BBC session) 3:04
10/ London (BBC session) 2:05
11/ Half A Person (BBC session) 3:29
12/ Sweet And Tender Hooligan (BBC session) 3:35 //Saturday Live -Radio One /UK -14.04.1984:
13/ I Don't Owe You Anything (Live w/ Sandie Shaw) 3:58
14/ Jeane (LIVE W/ Sandie Shaw) 3:06

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THE SMITHS (F#10) AT THE BEEB // “The Smiths At The Beeb” /One hour special including sessions appearances, excerpts of past interviews of Morrissey, Marr as well as contributions by John Peel, David Jensen, John Porter and Scott Piering.

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THE SMITHS F#6 TV SESSIONS //Y.E.S. 09.02.1984:
01/ What Difference Does It Make? (TV session) 2:48
02/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (TV session) 3:19 //The Tube 16.03.1984:
03/ Hand in Glove (TV session) 2:47
04/ Still Ill (TV session) 3:36
05/ Barbarism Begins At Home (TV session) 6:36
06/ Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (TV session) 3:15 //Datarun 07.04.1984:
07/ Still Ill (Excerpt) 2:22
/ This Charming Man (Live -Acoustic version)
/ Hand In Glove (Excerpt) //Splat! 04.1984:
08/ Jeane (TV -Live w/ Sandie Shaw on vocals) 1:53 //Whistle Test 20.05.1986:
09/ Bigmouth Strikes Again (TV session) 3:28
10/ Vicar In A Tutu (TV session) 2:31 //Eurotube 05.07.1986:
11/ There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (TV session) 4:21
12/ Panic (TV session) 3:28 //The Tube 10.04.1987:
13/ Sheila Take A Bow (TV session) 2:42
14/ Shoplifters The World Unite (TV session) 3:22

THE SMITHS F#7 LIVE

01/ I Want A Boy For My Birthday* (Live excerpt -1982) 0:29
02/ Handsome Devil (Live in Manchester -1983) 2:56
03/ Wonderful Woman -aka What Do You See In Him? (Live in Manchester -1983) 3:13
04/ Hand In Glove (Live in London -1983) 2:46
05/ Girl Afraid (Live in Glasgow -1984) 2:53
06/ Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want (Live in Dublin -1984) 2:22
07/ You've Got Everything Now (Live in Amsterdam -1984 /Radio Broadcast) 5:55
08/ William, It Was Really Nothing (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:15
09/ Nowhere Fast (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:31
10/ What She Said (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:36
11/ Stretch Out And Wait (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:55
12/ Shakespeare's Sister (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 2:13
13/ Meat Is Murder (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 5:38
14/ Miserable Lie (Live in Oxford -1985 /RB) 5:15
15/ Barbarism Begins At Home (Live w/ Pete Burns, London -1985) 8:23
16/ This Night Has Opened My Eyes (Live in London -12.12.1986) 3:34
17/ Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Live in London -1986) 5:02

THE SMITHS F#8 LIVE AT HOME
(OR MAYBE OTHER GOOD LATE SMITHS SHOW...) //Live at University Of Salford /Salford, UK -20.07.1986

THE SMITHS F#9 SOUNCHECKS
(OR MAYBE AN EARLY SMITHS SHOW, INSTEAD...)

Why would we put Bryan Ferry's "The Right Stuff" on a Smiths compilation...it's a completely different song...

As far as The Sandie Shaw songs, am I the only one who was utterly disappointed at WEA for attaching the Sandie Shaw versions on The There Is A Light single?? First of all they put Handsome Devil (Live) only on the casette and 7" versions, when there was and is still a lot more stuff that could have been placed on the CD instead of Sandie Shaw...for example the stuff that got put on the "cash-in" Sweet And Tender Hooligan single three years later...
Much as I like Sandie Shaws versions, they should have been placed on a Re-issue Sandie Shaw single, much as it was done originally...personally, I wouldn't want to have Sandie Shaw's version on a Smiths Box set, would be the same as putting Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness on a Morrissey box set...

Just my thoughts....

Can you clarify what you mean for disk #1
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now, Shakespare's Sister and William, It Was Really Nothing are A-side singles...It seems you were trying to make a discs of B-sides there??? I have a disc of B-sides if anybody wants it uploaded...it's all the original b-sides that were not orginally album cuts...I don't think I put the Tate Version of Pretty Girls Make Graves cause I didn't have space on the CD, I put What's The World instead....Handsome Devil and Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others live, but not Meat Is Murder (since it's on the Oxford show bootleg)....Any takers?

[smorrissey]

Oh no no it wasn't my idea. It was his:
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/comments.pl?sid=25179&op=&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=246326

and i think that he "included" Bryan Ferry because Marr made a colaboration with him but i agree it shouldn't be here cause it's a Smith box set.

[SNS22]

Oh no no it wasn't my idea. It was his:
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/comments.pl?sid=25179&op=&threshold=0&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=246326

and i think that he "included" Bryan Ferry because Marr made a colaboration with him but i agree it shouldn't be here cause it's a Smith box set.

Actually, when I read the thread realized it wasn't you cause he made references to Salford being his hometown...

I can start with The B-sides...I have a disc in my car...I like that the live version of Handsome Devil ends with Morrissey introducing Jeane, which is coincidently the next b-side....

[Dave2006]

Actually, when I read the thread realized it wasn't you cause he made references to Salford being his hometown...

I can start with The B-sides...I have a disc in my car...I like that the live version of Handsome Devil ends with Morrissey introducing Jeane, which is coincidently the next b-side....


It was me that spoke of Salford being my University town, but it wasn't me who suggested Bryan Ferry. But it was me who suggested this morrisseysolo bootleg box set idea.

Crikey this could go on forever.....(in which case I'm doomed###)

I like everyones suggestions and I'd love to see them posted :

SNS22 please upload the b-sides!!! I've been meaning to transfer my vinyl to digital for ages but other things keep getting in the way. It would be great.

smorrissey - I think you are right about not including Bryan Ferry, in the same way that we shouldn't be including Freak Party, or The The, or Electronic. Interesting, but not on a smiths box set.

In terms of the missing songs from each album (mentioned in the first few posts), I wonder whether Morrissey has done them as a solo artist? Suffer little children / Well I wonder / Just haven't earned it / Rubber Ring / Sweet and tender hooligan / Unlovable / any anytihng from Strangeways Here we Come.

[smorrissey]

Hello Dave2006

There are already smiths bsides compilations (bootlegs i mean) nothing interesting and their quality less.

I would love the b-sides ripped from the original CD's at 320k, but it's a very difficult task in this forum.

[SNS22]

I'd do it. but someone will chime in their two cents about "comercially avaliable material"...The lynch mob is already looking for an excuse to hang me

[smorrissey]

I'd do it. but someone will chime in their two cents about "comercially avaliable material"...The lynch mob is already looking for an excuse to hang me

yes i know, i really really hate "that mob" i understand about Morrissey but the smiths are totally different their singles ARE DELETED AND NOT AVAILABLE WORLD WIDE. I don't care about that mob. FU#$ them.:mad:

There are only two little exceptions. This Charming Man (the remixes) and Sweet and tender hooligan. That's all.

[SNS22]

Any single that is more than 5 years old is USUALLY out of print...Any album that is more than 10 years old and doesn't sell a certain number of copies will go out of print as well...

I don't think any of The Smiths Albums or Morrissey's albums are out of print...however, Southpaw Grammar and Maladjusted may soon be...

[smorrissey]

Any single that is more than 5 years old is USUALLY out of print...Any album that is more than 10 years old and doesn't sell a certain number of copies will go out of print as well...

I don't think any of The Smiths Albums or Morrissey's albums are out of print...however, Southpaw Grammar and Maladjusted may soon be...

And ALL THE SMITHS SINGLES are OUT OF PRINT so.......

Do you know what i wish? to have the original ripps from the cd singles sources not bootlegs. (except the vynil singles of course like the italian how soon is know).

[SNS22]

I think only 4-5 of the original singles were put on CD (not counting the REA reissues)

What Difference Does It Make? (Not sure if it was put on CD at all)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
The Boy With A Thorn In His Side
Panic
Ask (Reissued in 1995)
Shelia Take A Bow (German)
Girlfriend In A Coma (Uncertain about this one as well, Stop Me Was released in Germany)
Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me

European (non-singles)
Headmaster Ritual*
Barbarism Begins At Home*

WEA (Re-issues)
This Charming Man
How Soon Is Now
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out*
Sweet And Tender Hooligan*

* Not an original single

The Draize Train is the only b-side that is difficult to find, since the geniuses at Warner didn't deem it necessary to place on any of the reissues..They even put Golden Lights (Which is on Louder Than Bombs) on the Reissue of World Won't Listen instead...Then Again, Handsome Devil was only placed on the 7" and Cassette re-issue of There Is A Light, which is another reissue to hate the folks at WEA

[smorrissey]

Have you checked this:
http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/smiths-d.htm

I bet you did. There are least 20 songs (jeane, the queen is dead (edit)) available only in those singles.... it's a shame.

The bootlegs mp3 128 are very very poor quality.:(

and im going to be sincere i have them all but again some are lp sources and the hiss and the skips.....are unbearable for me.

[SNS22]

Have you checked this:
http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/smiths-d.htm

I bet you did. There are least 20 songs (jeane, the queen is dead (edit)) available only in those singles.... it's a shame.

The bootlegs mp3 128 are very very poor quality.:(

and im going to be sincere i have them all but again some are lp sources and the hiss and the skips.....are unbearable for me.

Actully, I did that based on memory.....I remember that the singles released on CD were practically also the only ones that were released in the US (but not on CD here)....

I have The WEA reissues of This Charming Man & There Is A Light..if you don't have those I can rip those for you at 320KBS or as FLAC...

I have the How Soon Is Now re-issue and personally I don't know what the point of a Queen Is Dead (edit) was...It should have been amongst "The Best" of the Smiths and not hidden on a single reissue...

It's not as "half-assed" as Morrissey's solo performances of The Queen Is Dead..most of them are not even 3 minutes long and he's skipping the end of the song...although I listened to the Filmore show and he did it there...

Then again even with The Smiths he only sang 1 of the "We can go for a walk..." lines...

[smorrissey]

Meat is murder and the world wont' listen and i'm done. :)

[smorrissey]

Thanks for these...:)

[NIPPON]

You Can Get The This Charming Man Cd Singles From Amazon For Next To Nothing.ditto The There Is A Light And How Soon Is Now From E Bay
Commercially Released Material Should Not Be Posted Here.

[2-J]

You Can Get The This Charming Man Cd Singles From Amazon For Next To Nothing.ditto The There Is A Light And How Soon Is Now From E Bay
Commercially Released Material Should Not Be Posted Here.

Surely anything not on any of the in-print albums should be okay. I mean the other day I was asking for the Draize Train studio version, I have all the Smiths and Morrissey albums on CD (including compilations) legally bought, must I pay £40+ for the Panic CD single just to get this track?

Similar logic applies to the I Keep Mine Hidden, Work Is A Four-Letter Word, Jeane, Wonderful Woman and Accept Yourself (though I do own those on legally bought CDs, it's a bit much to expect every fan to seek them out).

If they released a standalone album of as-yet-uncompiled Smiths stuff on CD (e.g. featuring these tracks plus some of the live and sessions stuff released on Smiths singles back in the day but not available for years), I'm sure it'd sell by the bucketload.

[NIPPON]

Wasnt Half The Fun In Collecting Records And Cds, Hunting For Them At Record Fairs Etc For The B Sides And Extra Tracks,unavailable Elsewhere Not Keep Asking People To Post Them For Free.
May Be Its Just Me Put Released Material Shouldnt Be Posted.
Its Either One Or The Other

[smorrissey]

You Can Get The This Charming Man Cd Singles From Amazon For Next To Nothing.ditto The There Is A Light And How Soon Is Now From E Bay
Commercially Released Material Should Not Be Posted Here.


WAKE UP!. The world is not ENGLAND and not everybody lives there.

98% of the Smiths Singles ARE NOT commercially available and they're DELETED, can you read? DELETED.

and I'm not going to pay you 40 pounds for your cd single in ebay, im not your mother.... WORK and earn your money WORKING.

[NIPPON]

funny that id get a reply from you,
it seems to be you who asks for this material to be posted

[NIPPON]

This Charming Man Cd Singles 1 And 2 From Amazon $3.72 And $4.45
Sweet And Tender Hooligan $4.45


So For About $12, £6 Or 10 Euros You Will Get All The Mixes Of This Charming Man, Jeane, Wonderful Woman, Accept Yourself, I Keep Mine Hidden, Whats The World (live) And Work Is A Four Letter Word

Hardly A Months Wages Is It??????

[smorrissey]

This Charming Man Cd Singles 1 And 2 From Amazon $3.72 And $4.45
Sweet And Tender Hooligan $4.45


So For About $12, £6 Or 10 Euros You Will Get All The Mixes Of This Charming Man, Jeane, Wonderful Woman, Accept Yourself, I Keep Mine Hidden, Whats The World (live) And Work Is A Four Letter Word

Hardly A Months Wages Is It??????

Again, the same.
Where is that Amazon charming man CD1 and CD2 you're talking about?

Ok Sweet and Tender Hooligan and This Charming Man the remixes are the only ones commercialy available. That's what i said 98% of the Smiths CD SINGLES BUT NOT THE REST OF THEM.

We're talking here about the really rare ones.....panic, ask, etc...

[smorrissey]

so, Where is that Amazon charming man CD1 and CD2 $3.72 And $4.45 you're talking about?

Were you lying? you better shut up next time you and all those Smithers Bsides envious people.

My precious, my precious, they're only mine.....

[2-J]

Its Either One Or The Other

Not necessarily. We could have a policy of not posting anything available on in-print commercially available albums and compilations. It doesn't have to be the either / or thing you're suggesting.