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smorrissey December 30, 2006, 01:04 AM Hello Everybody
A member is telling me that i'm not allowed to upload official bsides in the forum and i want to know if it is allowed (or not) to upload (or share) official bsides or official songs in the forum?
he is telling me what the hell is my obsession...
Such a lovely guy!!
Default Re: The Youngest Was The Most Loved Live Opera House Manchester
you shouldn't really be posting official B sides here, well not commercially available ones anyway as an exchange for live live versions of "The youngest was the most loved""
What the hell is your obsession with this song anyway? How many live versions of this song do you need?
Apart from live apperanaces and bootlegs there is no "Official" live version of this song.
Last edited by marred : Today at 06:09 PM.
Kuiper December 30, 2006, 01:12 AM I say technically it is allowed. I've never seen a moderator or administrator step in and tell people they should stop uploading commercially available (or formerly commercially available, such as Get Off the Stage or the long version of Will Never Marry) songs.
Poco Innocente December 30, 2006, 01:55 AM upload away, I have been paying extortionate prices for CDs for years!
unrulyboy December 30, 2006, 03:02 PM Most fans don't appreciate or support uploading official material. It's better to buy them and support Moz. Upload unreleased material, live shows, etc., but not commercially available work.
I know a number of people here, who have a load of live shows, ignore the requests of people who post commercially available material.
Support Moz. Buy his stuff. Don't post it. Upload his live shows.
- unrulyboy -
smorrissey December 30, 2006, 03:45 PM Most fans don't appreciate or support uploading official material. It's better to buy them and support Moz. Upload unreleased material, live shows, etc., but not commercially available work.
I know a number of people here, who have a load of live shows, ignore the requests of people who post commercially available material.
Support Moz. Buy his stuff. Don't post it. Upload his live shows.
- unrulyboy -
Mmmm. i'm a most fan and i support uploading official material with one exception: there are many official material ONLY available in the UK. For example Mexico, if i want to listen to the normal version of moonriver i can't buy the cd single in stores cause it is only sold only in the UK. The same happens with ALL MOzz singles and the live digital releases.
I will never upload a full CD album (ringleader of the tormentors CD for example) or any official album cause you can find them in stores.
so, my question was is it allowed in the forum or not?
Godlovesugly December 30, 2006, 03:53 PM There's no rules against it you can't stop people doing it...i say don't upload the new singles the usual "C.D single 1" and "C.D single 2" that kind of thing...the ones that matter....but i don't know what to think of these download only tracks....i find them annoying and just a way to make a quick pound or two..i don't know someone argue FOR them please at least then i might see a point to them.
smorrissey December 30, 2006, 04:12 PM I really really hate the protected DRM mp3', only in one machine? and when i buy other i have to buy the songs again?
unrulyboy December 30, 2006, 04:29 PM If you don't want an answer that doesn't agree with your position then don't ask a question. Pretty simple, isn't it?
The owner of this site has allowed all sorts of nonsense, so I'm sure there's plenty of room for yours.
Now, when you make a request for a show and don't get it answered, don't whine and cry, ok?
- unrulyboy -
Godlovesugly December 30, 2006, 05:09 PM Err i give up...maybe you might delete those posts above as they're a bit silly.
Lets keep the boards nice and friendly, yeah?
Chartres December 30, 2006, 05:15 PM Most fans will probably buy most things in time when they've got the money. Tracks that only are avaible on vinyl is, in my opinion, ok to uplaod since most people (including me) don't have the stuff to rip a vinyl. Therefore people like me don't have the YATQ b-sides in mp3 format, only on vinyl (upload:rolleyes: ).
Cheers
smorrissey December 30, 2006, 05:20 PM Err i give up...maybe you might delete those posts above as they're a bit silly.
Lets keep the boards nice and friendly, yeah?
who are you? the moderator? those guys started the bad behaviour not me.... learn to read.
Godlovesugly December 30, 2006, 05:23 PM who are you? the moderator? those guys started the bad behaviour not me.... learn to read.
I can read perfectly well, i just suspect people don't want to read about some of the disgusting things you've posted, i know someone has annoyed you but don't clog the boards up with profanity.
smorrissey December 30, 2006, 05:24 PM I can read perfectly well, i just suspect people don't want to read about some of the disgusting things you've posted, i know someone has annoyed you but don't clog the boards up with profanity.
i don't want to read your posts either my friend, so, stop them.
Chartres December 30, 2006, 05:27 PM i don't want to read your posts either my friend, so, stop them.
You ain't going to win any discussion by that behaviour, you're not an isle. So stop attacking people who ain't your enemies.
smorrissey December 30, 2006, 05:28 PM You ain't going to win any discussion by that behaviour, you're not an isle. So stop attacking people who ain't your enemies.
Another one, learn to read ALL the posts i didnt' start this.
Godlovesugly December 30, 2006, 05:33 PM Another one, learn to read ALL the posts i didnt' start this.
If only my english teachers were as persistent as you in getting me (us) to learn to read, I really don't think we'd be having this conversation.
Chartres December 30, 2006, 05:34 PM Another one, learn to read ALL the posts i didnt' start this.
I have and I know that you didn't but it's you who are continueing it. But let's let this discussion die, no need to reply.
BoyRacer December 30, 2006, 05:49 PM whine and cry? that's what your mother does when im fucking her ass... ja ja ja
The owner of this site has allowed all sorts of nonsense, so I'm sure there's plenty of room for yours. That has happened cause you are in the forum, sadly...
marred and you were given birth by the same asshole mother, everybody can see that... ASSHOLE. :)
Well we can see you have entered adulthood unscathed. I bet your parents would be proud of your mouth. Very adult of you to make comments like that, because it does so much in supporting your cause of wanting to post comercially available material. Just as a side note, if the stores in your area don't sell the items your looking for, there is always ebay or other outlets via the internet to get what your seeking. Soooooo stop acting like your 2 yrs old, save your lunch money and allowance and go buy singles your looking for.
BR
marred December 30, 2006, 11:39 PM here is the private message "SMORRISSEY" just sent me.
What the hell? fuck you asshole
first moderate your language with me, then you ask me (using good manners) what i can't do.
is there anyway we can get members like this banned from the site?
unrulyboy December 31, 2006, 06:20 PM marred, I got a couple of equally moronic notes from this intellectual midget. Something about my mother.... Normally I'd punch someone in the mouth for this, but it's clear what a pathetic soul he is. I really just feel sorry for him. But I'd love to see him banned.
smorrissey.... It's hard to walk tall when you're small.
- unrulyboy -
BoyRacer December 31, 2006, 08:35 PM .... It's hard to walk tall when you're small.
- unrulyboy -
good one. LOL
BR
bobalmighty December 31, 2006, 08:57 PM Oh dear. I avoid General Discussion and Off-Topic to avoid the hate. But now it's the Downloads forum too.
How sad.
lilikoi January 1, 2007, 08:34 AM where can I GET some B-sides??? I mean, you can't buy these singles anymore, so.... I really would like them. any hints? any compilations anywhere?
marred January 2, 2007, 12:22 AM where can I GET some B-sides??? I mean, you can't buy these singles anymore, so.... I really would like them. any hints? any compilations anywhere?
what singles are you talking about?
Kuiper January 2, 2007, 07:15 AM where can I GET some B-sides??? I mean, you can't buy these singles anymore, so.... I really would like them. any hints? any compilations anywhere?
I'll list all the comps that include b-sides and also list those are missing (which I would be happy to upload, if you really want, I guess a couple from these comps, but just a few).
Viva Hate reissue - Let the Right One Slip In, Pashernate Love, At Amber, Disappointed live (don't have this one), Girl Least Likely To, I'd Love To, Michael's Bones, I've Changed My Plea to Guilty
Bona Drag - Will Never Marry (the edited version, the long version I have in my possession and will freely upload once requested), Such a Little Thing Makes Such a Big Difference, Hairdresser on Fire, He Knows I'd Love to See Him, Yes I Am Blind, Lucky Lisp, Disappointed
Kill Uncle US version - Tony the Pony
World of Morrissey - Whatever Happens I Love You, Jack the Ripper live (the studio version I have, and as with Will Never Marry, will happily upload if anyone likes), Have-a-Go Merchant, The Loop, Sister I'm a Poet live (the studio version is more readily available and mentioned later on), Moonriver extended (I have the short version, and, you guessed it, would be glad to upload it)
Rare Tracks - Lost, Heir Apparent, The Edges Are No Longer Parallel, This is Not Your Country, Now I Am a Was, I Can Have Both
My Early Burglary Years - At Amber, Cosmic Dancer live (different version than the original b-side one), Nobody Loves Us, A Swallow on My Neck, Sister I'm a Poet, Black-Eyed Susan, Michael's Bones, I'd Love To, Pashernate Love, Girl Least Likely To, Jack the Ripper live, I've Changed My Plea to Guilty
!The Best Of! - Hairdresser on Fire, Sister I'm a Poet, Disappointed, Lost
You Are the Quarry deluxe edition - Don't Make Fun of Daddy's Voice, It's Hard To Walk Tall When You're Small, Teenage Dad on His Estate, Munich Air Disaster 1958, Friday Mourning, The Never-Played Symphonies, My Life is a Succession of People Saying Goodbye, I Am Two People, Mexico
The uncompiled b-sides are as follows: I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
Oh Well I'll Never Learn
Sweet and Tender Hooligan live (don't have this one)
East West
Get Off the Stage
Journalists Who Lie
That's Entertainment
Skin Storm
Cosmic Dancer live (don't have this one)
There's a Place in Hell for Me and My Friends radio session
Suedehead live (don't have it)
I've Changed My Plea to Guilty live (don't have it)
Pregnant for the Last Tiem (again, don't have it)
Alsatian Cousin live (again, don't have it)
London live (might have it, not sure)
Billy Budd live (might have it, not sure)
Spring-Heeled Jim (might have it, not sure)
Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself (might have it, not sure)
No One Can Hold a Candle to You (don't have it)
The Slum Mums
The Public Image
Noise is the Best Revenge
It's Hard to Walk Tall When You're Small radio session (don't have it)
Good Looking Man About Town
Human Being
I Knew I Was Next
If You Don't Like Me Don't Look at Me
Ganglord
A Song from Under the Floorboards
Christian Dior
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now live
To Me You Are a Work of Art live
Sweetie Pie
I Want the One I Can't Have live (don't have it)
Speedway live
Late Night Maudlin Street live
Some of the later ones from Good Looking Man About Town onwards up are still readily available in some countries.
spazrock January 2, 2007, 04:08 PM Kuiper, great post!! This has helped me see whats out there and how much i am missing. :)
lilikoi January 2, 2007, 10:56 PM I'll list all the comps that include b-sides and also list those are missing (which I would be happy to upload, if you really want, I guess a couple from these comps, but just a few).
Viva Hate reissue - Let the Right One Slip In, Pashernate Love, At Amber, Disappointed live (don't have this one), Girl Least Likely To, I'd Love To, Michael's Bones, I've Changed My Plea to Guilty
Bona Drag - Will Never Marry (the edited version, the long version I have in my possession and will freely upload once requested), Such a Little Thing Makes Such a Big Difference, Hairdresser on Fire, He Knows I'd Love to See Him, Yes I Am Blind, Lucky Lisp, Disappointed
Kill Uncle US version - Tony the Pony
World of Morrissey - Whatever Happens I Love You, Jack the Ripper live (the studio version I have, and as with Will Never Marry, will happily upload if anyone likes), Have-a-Go Merchant, The Loop, Sister I'm a Poet live (the studio version is more readily available and mentioned later on), Moonriver extended (I have the short version, and, you guessed it, would be glad to upload it)
Rare Tracks - Lost, Heir Apparent, The Edges Are No Longer Parallel, This is Not Your Country, Now I Am a Was, I Can Have Both
My Early Burglary Years - At Amber, Cosmic Dancer live (different version than the original b-side one), Nobody Loves Us, A Swallow on My Neck, Sister I'm a Poet, Black-Eyed Susan, Michael's Bones, I'd Love To, Pashernate Love, Girl Least Likely To, Jack the Ripper live, I've Changed My Plea to Guilty
!The Best Of! - Hairdresser on Fire, Sister I'm a Poet, Disappointed, Lost
You Are the Quarry deluxe edition - Don't Make Fun of Daddy's Voice, It's Hard To Walk Tall When You're Small, Teenage Dad on His Estate, Munich Air Disaster 1958, Friday Mourning, The Never-Played Symphonies, My Life is a Succession of People Saying Goodbye, I Am Two People, Mexico
The uncompiled b-sides are as follows: I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
Oh Well I'll Never Learn
Sweet and Tender Hooligan live (don't have this one)
East West
Get Off the Stage
Journalists Who Lie
That's Entertainment
Skin Storm
Cosmic Dancer live (don't have this one)
There's a Place in Hell for Me and My Friends radio session
Suedehead live (don't have it)
I've Changed My Plea to Guilty live (don't have it)
Pregnant for the Last Tiem (again, don't have it)
Alsatian Cousin live (again, don't have it)
London live (might have it, not sure)
Billy Budd live (might have it, not sure)
Spring-Heeled Jim (might have it, not sure)
Why Don't You Find Out For Yourself (might have it, not sure)
No One Can Hold a Candle to You (don't have it)
The Slum Mums
The Public Image
Noise is the Best Revenge
It's Hard to Walk Tall When You're Small radio session (don't have it)
Good Looking Man About Town
Human Being
I Knew I Was Next
If You Don't Like Me Don't Look at Me
Ganglord
A Song from Under the Floorboards
Christian Dior
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now live
To Me You Are a Work of Art live
Sweetie Pie
I Want the One I Can't Have live (don't have it)
Speedway live
Late Night Maudlin Street live
Some of the later ones from Good Looking Man About Town onwards up are still readily available in some countries.
yes yes yes - I want them desperately - pleeeeeease.
robertzombie January 2, 2007, 11:13 PM LOL! I'm sure someone will upload ALL OF THEM in no time at all! :p
smorrissey January 3, 2007, 01:31 AM Well we can see you have entered adulthood unscathed. I bet your parents would be proud of your mouth. Very adult of you to make comments like that, because it does so much in supporting your cause of wanting to post comercially available material. Just as a side note, if the stores in your area don't sell the items your looking for, there is always ebay or other outlets via the internet to get what your seeking. Soooooo stop acting like your 2 yrs old, save your lunch money and allowance and go buy singles your looking for.
BR
I'm going to ignore your offenses, you're only looking for trouble and i don't. :)
smorrissey January 3, 2007, 01:31 AM here is the private message "SMORRISSEY" just sent me.
What the hell? fuck you asshole
first moderate your language with me, then you ask me (using good manners) what i can't do.
is there anyway we can get members like this banned from the site?
I'm going to ignore your offenses, you're only looking for trouble and i don't. :)
smorrissey January 3, 2007, 01:32 AM marred, I got a couple of equally moronic notes from this intellectual midget. Something about my mother.... Normally I'd punch someone in the mouth for this, but it's clear what a pathetic soul he is. I really just feel sorry for him. But I'd love to see him banned.
smorrissey.... It's hard to walk tall when you're small.
- unrulyboy -
I'm going to ignore your offenses, you're only looking for trouble and i don't. :)
Kuiper January 3, 2007, 01:58 AM Thank you, spazrock. You, lilikoi, and robertzombie, just request whatever you want and I'll upload it. :)
Kuiper January 3, 2007, 02:22 AM Okay here are a couple random b-sides:
Michael's Bones - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F9367AEF21CAA6F6
You Must Please Remember - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=92E2A4406D7E2EDD
The Public Image - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=57B57CCA3E03E85E
Jack the Ripper studio version - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BC30A55F16FF57FC
The Edges Are No Longer Parallel - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=BCD7A61814CCE979
At Amber - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=34BDCB673BFCCBF5
And as an added bonus, the alternate take of How Soon is Now? that appeared on the 12'' of William in Italy - http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=15348344311414CD
Also, if anyone has the edit of HSIN as heard in this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=CVeMbd-UDts, I would be very happy if you could please upload it. :)
drifter January 3, 2007, 04:04 AM PHP Code:
http://rapidshare.de/files/27953885/moz.zip.html
Let The Right One In
Nobody Loves Us
East West
A Swallow On My Neck
I've Changed My Plea To Guilty
That's Entertainment
Pregnant For The Last Time
Get Off The Stage
Journalists Who Lie
You've Had Her
Black-Eyed Susan
There Speaks A True Friend
At Amber
Jack The Ripper (Studio Version!)
I Know Very Well How I Got My Name
The Draize Train(Studio Version!)
Interlude(extended version)
I'd Love To
Micheals Bones
Oh Well I'll Never Learn
I Know Very Well How I Got My Note Wrong (w/Vini)
spazrock January 3, 2007, 01:43 PM Kuiper and drifter THANKS!!! There are some really great songs in here that i would never have heard without you, thanks SO much!!!! :D :D
robertzombie January 3, 2007, 02:32 PM cheers guys, top job :D
lilikoi January 3, 2007, 04:30 PM Kuiper, thanx so muuuuch! I'm thrilled. but that PHP code thing, what is it? it doesn't seem to work.
whatever else you have - you'd make me very happy... get off the stage for example is one I'm pretty curious about
Kuiper January 3, 2007, 07:55 PM Okay here are a couple more random b-sides.
I Know Very Well How I Got My Name (Suedehead)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0A52256F2297F4B3
Get Off the Stage (Piccadilly Palare)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4D65987106B8A1E2
A Swallow on My Neck (Sunny)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D2DE9951418FB211
Will Never Marry original longer version (Everyday is Like Sunday)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=84C2189004F1484B
Black-Eyed Susan (Sunny)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=59F797073C181FB7
An uncompiled Smiths b-side, Wonderful Woman (This Charming Man)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E5DDE20E7180BE5B
This is Not Your Country (Satan Rejected My Soul)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=800589FB33E7DB49
Also, here are the singles that the b-sides I uploaded earlier first appeared on.
Michael's Bones - The Last of the Famous International Playboys
You Must Please Remember - Dagenham Dave
The Public Image - I Have Forgiven Jesus
Jack the Ripper - Certain People I Know
The Edges Are No Longer Parallel - Roy's Keen
At Amber - Piccadilly Palare
How Soon is Now? - William, It Was Really Nothing
lilikoi January 3, 2007, 09:20 PM kuiper you are a darling!!!! I never thought I'd ever get to hear all these amazing mysterious tunes. FAR OUT!!!!
joevsw0rld January 3, 2007, 09:25 PM Kuiper
thank you very much for the downloads and list of bsides. i was scouring the site earlier for a list like that. thanks :)
marred January 4, 2007, 12:39 AM Kuiper
thank you very much for the downloads and list of bsides. i was scouring the site earlier for a list like that. thanks :)
Why not post Mozzer's whole back catalogue and no one will have to buy anything?
joevsw0rld January 4, 2007, 04:57 PM Im sorry that I dont have the money to buy a single released 15 years ago just so I can hear a song or two. I support Morrissey, I have all his full length EPs, and I buy what I can.
CrashingBore January 4, 2007, 08:52 PM imho everybody who registered here actually IS a die-hard-fan and also i think everyone is very pleased, to buy singles in 3 formats, re-issues, re-packages and everything else released by morrissey. on the other side i see the problem to get the older stuff - i had to pay a lot of money to get most of the stuff. but not everyone is that blessed that he can handle such a robbie-williams-esque output with an average income.
moz fans (mostly) seem to be the people that value a physical medium such as vinyl or cds - but in some countries it's really, really hard to find the (mostly exorbitant over-priced) old records. i think we should try to get that songs out to everyone and believe, that 99,9% of the people here go out and buy the shit if the have the possibility - let's just be gentle and kind - to morrissey by giving him our hard-earned money but also to this community.
peace :-)
one last note: do you really believe you support morrissey if you buy second-hand-out-of-print items at ebay? really?
marred January 5, 2007, 08:20 AM one last note: do you really believe you support morrissey if you buy second-hand-out-of-print items at ebay? really?
I don't think anyone was trying to make that point.
but if you want to be that technical then you could say yes it is supporting Moz bcause the ebay seller forked out money for the record and the buyer is reimbursing the seller.
I just like buying records and owning them rather than downloading.
each to theiir own. I don't believe these people who complain about unavailability or certain records in their own country when you can order anything online.
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