Alternate versions of songs [Archive]

Kuiper

December 7, 2006, 04:25 AM

Alright, here is a list of all the alternate versions of songs (as in released ones, like single edits, not demos, a list of which would probably be far too vast) I've found on Passions Just Like Mine. I'm half requesting those I don't have and many others don't have as well and half uploading those I do have for others. Of course this thread won't end up seeing all these songs posted, but whatever is uploaded will be very appreciated by several people myself included. Don't count on it, but in the end if I can successfully do so, I will attempt to put them all into some kind of folder that I can upload all at once whenever requested so people can get all of them in one place.

www.passionsjustlikemine.com
Ask single version (which is an odd name, because it was only a single, and appears on none of the four studio albums)
Barbarism Begins at Home edit
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side single version (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=061714415DF76E02)
The Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? fade-out
How Soon is Now? Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? other edit
How Soon is Now? alternate take (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DB0CF75E249146C7)
Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me edited (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37B5F0414E974E07)
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before alternate mix
Stretch Out and Wait different take
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore edit
This Charming Man London (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=728CBA4322F3571D)
This Charming Man New York
This Charming Man New York instrumental
This Charming Man single remix
What Difference Does It Make? single edit
Work is a Four Letter Word edited
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby alternate version

Alma Matters edit
The Boy Racer edit
Interesting Drug video version
Interlude extended
Interlude instrumental version
I've Changed My Plea to Guilty USA version
Moonriver extended version
November the Second (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=616744BA77F1DFBE)
Now My Heart is Full edit
Tomorrow remix
Tomorrow radio edit
Tomorrow video version
Tomorrow video version edit
Will Never Marry original longer version (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=487B6B8B51F6EE67)
You're the One for Me, Fatty unmixed version

I probably missed a couple and there are a few that I have but am having trouble uploading. I'll keep trying because I'm determined to upload all of the above that I am in possession of.

soundofthenorth

December 7, 2006, 11:38 AM

Here's what i have, all in mp3:

Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=8D9FEB4049F5BEFF

How Soon Is Now? -edit,fade out- (originally taken from Shine1 Compilation)
http://download.yousendit.com/6465A37D26863E23

Boxers edit -fades out-
http://download.yousendit.com/97CBD510126C53C8
Its hard to walk tall when your small -fade out-
http://download.yousendit.com/8B0252424C966E83
Interesting drug -edit-
http://download.yousendit.com/BBAFF42D068862F8
Oujia Oujia board -edit-
http://download.yousendit.com/AD3CEBF96B942872
november spawned a -edit-
http://download.yousendit.com/7A9C0E5F5C05FEA0
Let the right one in -fade out-
http://download.yousendit.com/B447ABE2255B62E8

What i desire :) in mp3 on sendspace or you send it, PRETTY please my quality isnt too good, check it out :
This Charming Man New York instrumental
http://download.yousendit.com/6989356A5F34356E

This Charming Man single remix

Charming Man NY Remix
http://download.yousendit.com/35B0C5647923FC7A

Ive also the interlude single which features 3tracks including the requested+one i cant have intro bit is cut+Hairdresser On Fire -Intro Cut-+Satan Rejected My Soul -Edit-, so i can up those later if you like. let me know

Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me edited any chance of a mp3 version of this?

The Youngest

December 7, 2006, 03:43 PM

Bluebirds

December 7, 2006, 04:30 PM

No, which takes away from the beauty of it

shoey

December 7, 2006, 04:41 PM

Thanks for these! Good idea, if I've any others I'll post

croch2

December 7, 2006, 04:48 PM

"Will Never Marry" (original longer version) is the version from "Everyday Is Like Sunday" Single 1988. This is different of the version that includes "Bonadrag" album (edit version). Is a rare track. Thanks Kuiper !

Tbevie

December 7, 2006, 04:57 PM

Thanks for sharing these :)

Kuiper

December 7, 2006, 07:41 PM

UPDATED LIST (removing stuff available on Louder than Bombs, The World Won't Listen, and My Early Burglary Years with a * next to it if it's already been uploaded and therefore is available to be re-uploaded whenever requested)

Ask single version
Barbarism Begins at Home edit
The Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? fade-out*
How Soon is Now? Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? other edit
How Soon is Now? alternate take*
Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me edited*
Pretty Girls Make Graves Troy Tate demo*
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit*
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others w/o fade-in
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before different mix
This Charming Man London*
This Charming Man New York*
This Charming Man New York Instrumental*
This Charming Man single remix
What Difference Does It Make? single edit
Work is a Four Letter Word edited

Alma Matters edit
The Boy Racer edit
Boxers edit*
I'd Love To UK and US versions**
Interesting Drug edit*
Interesting Drug video version
It's Hard to Walk Tall When You're Small edit*
I've Changed My Plea to Guilty UK version* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=A704E7DD05ED571A)
Jack the Ripper studio version* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=60D2F8583DFC9F4C)
Let the Right One Slip In fade-out*
Moonriver short version (extended version is on World of Morrissey, so is more readily available then making this version the one to upload if anyone has it and feels like it)
My Love Life US version
November Spawned a Monster edit*
November the Second*
Now My Heart is Full edit* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B7E08D65568A9B0E)
Ouija Board, Ouija Board edit*
Tomorrow Steve Peck remix
Tomorrow radio edit
Tomorrow video version* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FB484BFC45A44F3D)
Tomorrow video version edit
Will Never Marry original longer version*
You're the One for Me, Fatty unmixed version (can be heard/seen here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSbRuaNP54)

If anyone has any of the above not marked with a * or believes they have a higher quality version of it, different audio format, etc., please upload it whenever you have the time to do so. Also, if and when any of the links on this thread expire, feel free to request them again and I will upload them again.

Joshu's Mu

December 8, 2006, 12:43 AM

kuiper, thanks very, very much. Great treat...

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

December 8, 2006, 03:30 AM

Ask single version (http://rapidshare.com/files/6550667/Ask__Single_Version_.mp3)
Barbarism Begins at Home edit (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551375/Barbarism_Begins_At_Home__Edit_.mp3)
The Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? fade-out (http://rapidshare.com/files/6550955/How_Soon_Is_Now__Fade-Out_.mp3)
How Soon is Now? Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? other edit
How Soon is Now? alternate take* (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551189/How_Soon_Is_Now__Alternate_Take_.mp3)
Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me edited* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37B5F0414E974E07) (Your link)
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others w/o fade-in
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before different mix
This Charming Man London* (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=728CBA4322F3571D) (Your link)
This Charming Man New York (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551788/This_Charming_Man__New_York_.mp3)
This Charming Man New York Instrumental (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551584/This_Charming_Man__New_York_Instrumental_.mp3)
This Charming Man single remix (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551881/This_Charming_Man__Single_Remix_.mp3)
What Difference Does It Make? single edit
Work is a Four Letter Word edited

I didn't have the edit of Last Night...so thanks. Here's some I've found ^

While seconding the one's I am unable to upload, these live versions I only have from bootlegs:

Girl Afraid (live in Glasgow 2/3/84)
Meat Is Murder - (live Oxford 18/3/85) {5:54}
Miserable Lie (live Oxford 18/3/85) {4:27}
Shakespeare's Sister (live Hollywood Palladium 27/06/85)
What She Said (live Oxford Apollo, 18/3/85) {2:35}
William It Was Really Nothing (live at Oxford Apollo 18/3/85)

So I'd love an upgrade...

Mild_Best_Wishes

December 8, 2006, 03:56 AM

CemetryGates

December 8, 2006, 05:04 AM

Tomorrow - Steve Peck Remix - http://www.sendspace.com/file/gnw684

SNS22

December 8, 2006, 05:49 AM

Moon River (The non-suicide inducing short version)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8BC3KJHU

robertzombie

December 8, 2006, 04:38 PM

The edit of Last Night I Dreamt is the one used on the Very Best Of, isn't it?

nightandday

December 8, 2006, 04:43 PM

Interlude (extended) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gmg9f7)

Interlude (instrumental) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/7w5k9z)

I don't know which version of I'd Love To is UK and which one is USA version. Which one is on My Early Burglary Years? So, here are both of them:

I'd Love To 1 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ye9p9h) (the one on My Early Burglary Years)

I'd Love To 2 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ral76y)

nightandday

December 8, 2006, 04:52 PM

Alright, here is a list of all the alternate versions of songs (as in released ones, like single edits, not demos, a list of which would probably be far too vast) I've found on Passions Just Like Mine. I'm half requesting those I don't have and many others don't have as well and half uploading those I do have for others. Of course this thread won't end up seeing all these songs posted, but whatever is uploaded will be very appreciated by several people myself included. Don't count on it, but in the end if I can successfully do so, I will attempt to put them all into some kind of folder that I can upload all at once whenever requested so people can get all of them in one place.

www.passionsjustlikemine.com
Ask single version (which is an odd name, because it was only a single, and appears on none of the four studio albums)
Barbarism Begins at Home edit
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side single version (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=061714415DF76E02)
The Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? fade-out
How Soon is Now? Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? other edit
How Soon is Now? alternate take (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DB0CF75E249146C7)
Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me edited (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=37B5F0414E974E07)
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before alternate mix
Stretch Out and Wait different take
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore edit
This Charming Man London (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=728CBA4322F3571D)
This Charming Man New York
This Charming Man New York instrumental
This Charming Man single remix
What Difference Does It Make? single edit
Work is a Four Letter Word edited
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby alternate version

In addition, shouldn't the Troy Tate version of Pretty Girls Make Graves (released as B-side to I Started Something...) be mentioned? There are also several live versions of various songs released as B-sides. Out of those, I have:

Handsome Devil
Meat Is Murder
Stretch Out and Wait
Nowhere Fast
Hand In Glove
Shakespeare's Sister
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others

I also have live versions of Girl Afraid and William, It Was Really Nothing that I downloaded from Soulseek, they're tagged as 'Rare tracks on vinyl' so I suppose they should be B-sides too?

Kuiper

December 8, 2006, 04:58 PM

In addition, shouldn't the Troy Tate version of Pretty Girls Make Graves (released as B-side to I Started Something...) be mentioned? There are also several live versions of various songs released as B-sides. Out of those, I have:

Handsome Devil
Meat Is Murder
Stretch Out and Wait
Nowhere Fast
Hand In Glove
Shakespeare's Sister
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others

I also have live versions of Girl Afraid and William, It Was Really Nothing that I downloaded from Soulseek, they're tagged as 'Rare tracks on vinyl' so I suppose they should be B-sides too?

The only one of the list above I have is Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others, so I will upload it now. Generally I think live versions don't count as alternate versions, but anything that people want uploaded or would like to upload is welcome in this thread. I don't have the Troy Tate demo of Pretty Girls Make Graves, but I will add it to the list.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0B37D2363EDC3C6E

robertzombie

December 8, 2006, 05:11 PM

Anyone got Handsome Devil (live) from the Hand In Glove single?

CemetryGates

December 8, 2006, 05:55 PM

Here is "Handsome Devil"...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqjr2b

SNS22

December 8, 2006, 06:33 PM

Does anybody have any idea how much the New York Mix 12" Of This Charming Man is worth today?

I paid $150 about three months before the CD reissues came out and felt like an idiot...

nightandday

December 8, 2006, 08:42 PM

Pretty Girls Make Graves (Troy Tate session) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/n7wjri) (used as B-side to I Started Something...)

An excellent version, IMO much better than the one on The Smiths. All Troy Tate sessions are worth hearing. Many of them are superior to the John Porter-produced tracks on the debut. The highlights, apart from Pretty Girls, include Miserable Lie (miles better than the version on the debut, although the Peel session is probably the best), Suffer Little Children (less slow and droning than the one on the debut, has a certain tension that the other version lacks, and it also has a haunting piano coda later used on Asleep), Wonderful Woman (less polished, more raw than the one from TCM, Johnny's guitar might not that beautiful, but Morrissey vocal is very emotional - one of his best early vocal performances). What Difference Does It Make? sounds very unusual due to strange backing vocal, courtesy of Johnny Marr, which gives it a slightly spooky atmosphere.

jay888

December 9, 2006, 03:06 AM

southofthenorth could you please re-post (Interesting drug -edit-), it seems the file expired. Thank you.

nightandday

December 9, 2006, 01:54 PM

southofthenorth could you please re-post (Interesting drug -edit-), it seems the file expired. Thank you.
It hasn't expired. :confused: Maybe you should try again?

soundofthenorth

December 9, 2006, 03:09 PM

The only one of the list above I have is Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others, so I will upload it now. Generally I think live versions don't count as alternate versions, but anything that people want uploaded or would like to upload is welcome in this thread. I don't have the Troy Tate demo of Pretty Girls Make Graves, but I will add it to the list.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0B37D2363EDC3C6E

nice one i needed that track :) :)

the interesting grud edit links seems to be ok for me, let me know if you want a sendspace upload of that.

soundofthenorth

December 9, 2006, 03:13 PM

Here is "Handsome Devil"...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqjr2b

cheers mr.gates, great quality for a 7inch rip :) :)

robertzombie

December 9, 2006, 11:16 PM

Here is "Handsome Devil"...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqjr2b

Thanks! :D

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 13, 2007, 11:32 AM

Here's How Soon Is Now? (Phil Brown Edit) (http://rapidshare.com/files/16268151/How_Soon_Is_Now__Phil_Brown_Edit_.MP3) if anyone wants. Only managed to find that since.

Any one got anything else to add?

tjkomi

February 13, 2007, 12:50 PM

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 13, 2007, 01:14 PM

Here's what i have, all in mp3:

Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=8D9FEB4049F5BEFF

I hadn't actually seen this, so a re-upload if possible? Ta.

As for what you wanted, I'll edit this post when they're uploaded.

How Soon Is Now? (Fade-Out) (http://download.yousendit.com/037605D91924BF2E)
Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Loved Me (Edit) (http://download.yousendit.com/BF1E99CD7D9288D1)
This Charming Man (New York Instrumental) (http://download.yousendit.com/64CE705C55544A61)
This Charming Man (New York) (http://download.yousendit.com/62FAB7CB0CEFF385)
This Charming Man (Single Remix) (http://download.yousendit.com/BEF0A4497E723FBA)

tjkomi

February 13, 2007, 03:32 PM

Thanks WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

it would be nice to see those morrissey edits and of course
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit

please.

The Seeker of Good Songs

February 13, 2007, 08:50 PM

You're the One for Me, Fatty unmixed version (can be heard/seen here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSbRuaNP54)

just went there and this is whatwas there:
"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. "

:(

Kuiper

February 13, 2007, 08:52 PM

just went there and this is whatwas there:
"This video has been removed due to terms of use violation. "

:(

Yeah official videos disappear quickly from YouTube. But if you search it there you'll probably find it again.

Okay, what are the requests for stuff needing reuploaded?

CemetryGates

February 13, 2007, 09:02 PM

These are the few I'd like to see up again....

Barbarism Begins at Home - edit

Some Girls Are Bigger than Others - edit

Boxers edit -fades out-

Its hard to walk tall when your small -fade out-

Interesting drug -edit-

Oujia Oujia board -edit-

november spawned a -edit-

Let the right one in -fade out-

DavidA

February 13, 2007, 09:36 PM

I'd love to get the following in FLAC, but MP3 is good too. 1st generation if possible, as I have some of these off bootleg compilations already.

Barbarism Edit from Barbarism CD Single
Girl Afraid (Live - Glasgow) from NME Dept of Enjoyment Cassette
Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown Edit from US HSIN 7"
How Soon Is Now Other Edit from UK Buzz #004
How Soon Is Now Alternate Take from Italian William 12"
Miserable Lie (Live - Oxford) from Canadian/Dutch Rough Trade Sampler
Shakespeare's Sister (Live - Hollywood Palladium) from Rarities Vol 2 CD
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Edit) from German Some Girls 12"
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (Without Fade-In) from Oz Queen Is Dead (Festival or CBS release)
Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before (European) from German CD Single
William It Was Really Nothing (Live - Oxford) from 12" test pressing of the "Meat Is Murder" aborted live EP
Work Is A Four Letter Word (Edit) from 7" single of "Girlfriend In A Coma"

I have everything else listed at Passions (http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/smiths-l.htm). Happy to help other fills.

CemetryGates

February 13, 2007, 09:51 PM

Hi David,

Here is "Girl Afraid" from NME Dept of Enjoyment, I just got this in a while back, but I don't have it's original source so I can't know what generation it is. It sounds good though...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n9ikhq

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 13, 2007, 10:01 PM

I posted the Barbarism edit and the HSIN? alternate take back on the first page. But you might wanna hold off for better as I'm unsure of their generation and they're mp3.

beau

February 13, 2007, 10:14 PM

Does anybody have any idea how much the New York Mix 12" Of This Charming Man is worth today?

I paid $150 about three months before the CD reissues came out and felt like an idiot...

$25ish?

Kuiper

February 13, 2007, 10:32 PM

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 02:27 AM

Okay, CemetryGates, here are 4 of the ones you wanted. The rest are coming, but here is what there is right now:
Some Girls edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hnuai4

November edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/voo8nt

Ouija Board edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lbgu0c

Walk Tall edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/19bzgm

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 04:01 AM

I don't have the Barbarism or Drug edits, but here are the last two. :)

Boxers edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/n2ki9k

Let the Right One Slip In fade-out
http://www.sendspace.com/file/96liuf

*About Let the Right One, that is the only version of the song I have, but since it does fade-out, I assume that is the rarer version and that I do not have the more common one.

nightandday

February 14, 2007, 05:10 AM

Barbarism Begins At Home (edit) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ft3x)

CemetryGates

February 14, 2007, 05:40 AM

Barbarism Begins At Home (edit) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ft3x)

Should there be a constant skip or hitch every few seconds?...

nightandday

February 14, 2007, 06:49 AM

Should there be a constant skip or hitch every few seconds?...
Of course, what would it be without it??

I thought someone was asking for the bloody thing and that's all I've got, take it or leave it. :rolleyes:

CemetryGates

February 14, 2007, 07:05 AM

It may have been an error aquired during the cd ripping process or during uploading/downloading. Simply a question.

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 07:11 AM

It may have been an error aquired during the cd ripping process or during uploading/downloading. Simply a question.

I doubt it is the in uploading/downloading, it must be from the CD ripping or from however someone got it off of vinyl.

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 14, 2007, 09:50 AM

Can't wait to get home & get that Some Girls edit, if you look on the first page all my uploads are still intact, including the Barbarism edit, which as far as I'm aware is skipless.

:)

tender hooligan

February 14, 2007, 04:21 PM

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 04:42 PM

The different version of Drug was used in the video, and I don't think any audio rips of it have been posted. But here is Will Never Marry long version:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/b47nk4
(Note, the file says the song is from "My Early Burglary Years" because I took all these rarities and just added it to that album in my iTunes)

tender hooligan

February 14, 2007, 05:06 PM

OMG Kuiper, that was fast! Thank you so much!!!

tender hooligan

February 14, 2007, 05:12 PM

But, sadly, this site doesnt work for me! Am i the only one?

tender hooligan

February 14, 2007, 07:42 PM

Oh, it is working now!Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 07:49 PM

^^Is there anything else you are in search of, tender hooligan? You might be interested in this thread if you haven't seen it yet:
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=68512

tender hooligan

February 14, 2007, 08:00 PM

Thank you for that too! I have almost all, but not all of them, of course. I was wondering about Untitled 1 and 2?

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 08:04 PM

Untitled 1 and 2 are instrumental demos from the Miraval Sessions, which took place in late 94 and early 95 while recording Southpaw Grammar.

DavidA

February 14, 2007, 08:36 PM

I posted the Barbarism edit and the HSIN? alternate take back on the first page. But you might wanna hold off for better as I'm unsure of their generation and they're mp3.

Thanks CemetryGates and WhatDifferenceDoesItMake :)

Uncleskinny

February 14, 2007, 08:39 PM

Could you please reupload Will never marry original longer version? i am looking for this one for a long time. And how about Interesting drug alter version?

The long version is the one you want. You hear a lady (Street's wife), saying "Steven....STEVEN!!!", as if Morrissey's mother is calling him back from the brink of marriage in the manner of a mother calling her child in the playground. Genius.

Peter

leipzigcure77

February 14, 2007, 09:17 PM

PLEASE, PLEASE SOMEBODY COULD PUT AGAIN ALL THE VERSION PLEASE?, I HADN´T SEEN THESE GREAT VERSIONS, PLEASE, HELP ME!!!!!

I LOVE MORRISSEY AND THE SMITHS!!!:p

CHEERS!!!:D

Kuiper

February 14, 2007, 09:23 PM

^^Well, which ones in particular would you like? :)

thursdays child

February 15, 2007, 01:06 AM

first of all thanks for all these.. there grate!!

can anybody upload te b-sides from you are the quarry??
and the new ones from ROTT???
I don't have any..:(

well thanks in advanced:o

leipzigcure77

February 15, 2007, 03:02 AM

Hello friends and fans of Mozzer and The Smihts, does anyone could put again the next songs please please inasmuch as I couldn´t download these great songs:

Ask single version (which is an odd name, because it was only a single, and appears on none of the four studio albums)
Barbarism Begins at Home edit
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side single version
The Headmaster Ritual Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? fade-out
How Soon is Now? Phil Brown edit
How Soon is Now? other edit
How Soon is Now? alternate take
Some Girls Are Bigger than Others edit
Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before alternate mix
Stretch Out and Wait different take
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore edit
This Charming Man London
What Difference Does It Make? single edit
Work is a Four Letter Word edited
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby alternate version

Alma Matters edit
The Boy Racer edit
Interesting Drug video version
Interlude extended
Interlude instrumental version
I've Changed My Plea to Guilty USA version
Moonriver extended version
November the Second
Now My Heart is Full edit
Tomorrow remix
Tomorrow radio edit
Tomorrow video version
Tomorrow video version edit
Will Never Marry original longer version
You're the One for Me, Fatty unmixed version

PLEASE, PLEASE FRIENDS SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THESE SONGS PLEASE?, GREETINGS!!!, I LOVE THIS FORUM!!!:) :)

CemetryGates

February 15, 2007, 04:32 AM

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 05:57 AM

I've been scanning Passions and many of these are not listed which, because that site is so accurate, leaves me thinking many may be unofficial edits made by fans. Such was the case with the edit of Black Eyed Susan that was sent round a while ago. I know to some this doesn't mean a piss but it does to me so this is just a note that they might not be 100% legit edits...

I know I noticed the same thing, the lack of recognition from Passions, the lack of a release. So they might not be 100% legal, or they could be extremely rare alternate edits done by the producer/studio/record company, which is extremely unlikely though.

leipzigcure77, I will eventually upload all of the songs I have that you are seeking. Most of the songs on that list were never uploaded and so not in my possession, but those I do have I will upload, though it will take a while. :)

Oso Blanco

February 15, 2007, 09:49 AM

The different version of Drug was used in the video, and I don't think any audio rips of it have been posted.

Here it is:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5bafti

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 09:52 AM

Here it is:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5bafti

Wow, thanks! :)

Noel

February 15, 2007, 10:05 AM

Re The longer version of Will Never Marry. This is just the original b-side?
Where does the shorter version come from??

Oso Blanco

February 15, 2007, 10:07 AM

Re The longer version of Will Never Marry. This is just the original b-side?
Where does the shorter version come from??

The shorter version can be found on "Bona Drag".

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 10:07 AM

Re The longer version of Will Never Marry.
Where does the shorter version come from??

The longer version was the original b-side to Everyday is Like Sunday, but for some reason it was shortened when put on Bona Drag. Maybe there wasn't enough room on the record for the extra time, or maybe Moz thought it was better shorter, who knows.

Stephane

February 15, 2007, 04:06 PM

leipzigcure77

February 15, 2007, 06:18 PM

Hello Kuiper, nice to meet you and thanks for your help inasmuch as I´ve been looking for these rare versions since a long long time ago, I´ll be very grateful if you could help me for get these rare songs, thanks for your support and read my message, god bless you friend!!!.

Greetings From Mexico!!!!:D :D

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 07:24 PM

I see you just signed on, leipzigcure77. I'll upload the first five of the songs you are in search of right now.

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 07:35 PM

This Charming Man London
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sjj3xy

I've Changed My Plea to Guilty US version
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bxxe73

Tomorrow remix
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gk64xu

Now My Heart is Full edit
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ujfz8f

Moonriver short version (which is actually the rarer one, not the extended version)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pi5m2c

You'll probably be interested in this thread too.
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=68512
But the links in the first post might have expired, so I think I'm gonna re-upload several of them soon.

mozsupportsrovers

February 15, 2007, 07:41 PM

hello again kuiper, many thanx for these but would u mind uploading them in mp3 format.

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 07:42 PM

hello again kuiper, many thanx for these but would u mind uploading them in mp3 format.

I'm sorry but the m4a files I don't have in mp3 format.

mozsupportsrovers

February 15, 2007, 07:54 PM

do u know how to convert them as im willing to try

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 07:58 PM

do u know how to convert them as im willing to try

Well that depends on what software and audio player you have. Sorry I'm not an expert on the technical aspects of this stuff, but there are many, many very knowledgeable and friendly people on the forum who have helped me out with similar matters in the past. You could try searching something like "MP3 converting" and probably find a couple threads explaining several ways to do it. :)

CemetryGates

February 15, 2007, 08:20 PM

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 08:23 PM

That version of Moonriver is not the official edit, the real one is about 3:20. If anyone has the CD Singles set 91-95, the correct one can be found on the "Hold On To Your Friends" single.

I for one would be very happy to have that.

Thanks for the info. If I remember correctly someone uploaded that song in this thread, and that's where I got it from.

CemetryGates

February 15, 2007, 09:33 PM

Kuiper

February 15, 2007, 09:35 PM

Sure, and you're right, the same track you uploaded was posted a while back, maybe the original poster didn't know it wasn't the actual edit either. With all these false versions floating around it sure makes it hard to sort through if, like me, you looking for the real deal.

I agree. I am also looking always for the real deal, but what I'm surprised about is that people even both to edit these songs.

Anyway I think I might have what you say you're searching for in your sig. Let me check really quick.

CemetryGates

February 16, 2007, 04:45 AM

Kuiper

February 16, 2007, 04:48 AM

Thanks, I would love to see it posted if you do have it. I do have a copy but it's all messed up, and the sound goes up and down throughout.

And like you said, I'm surprised too that people mess with songs. I don't know where people find the effort for stuff...

Sorry to let you down, but I checked and didn't find it. Now I remember that I downloaded it a while ago and it too had volume problems, so we might have actually downloaded it from the same source.

CemetryGates

February 16, 2007, 06:56 AM

Yes, must be the same track. Thank you for checking all the same. Someone on here a while back posted that he/she had ordered the dvd single and would share it when it came in. I can't just now remember who it was though...

Hello, anyone out there?

:)

burnedmind

February 16, 2007, 09:05 PM

Girlfriend In A Coma Alternate Version

http://www.sendspace.com/file/312dcp

Oso Blanco

February 16, 2007, 11:19 PM

Girlfriend In A Coma Alternate Version

http://www.sendspace.com/file/312dcp

Where is this from? Sounds like fan made ...

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 23, 2007, 08:57 PM

I have everything else listed at Passions (http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/smiths-l.htm). Happy to help other fills.

Hey I didn't twig until now, but the single edit of WDDIM? is not in your list, does that mean you have it? Any chance of an upload?

According to PJLM there's an edited Rubber Ring from a Japanese 'The Boy With The Thorn In His Side' single, missing a line or something?

Also Cemetery Gates, did you ever receive that CD? :)

CemetryGates

February 24, 2007, 05:36 PM

Apparently it's in the mail now. So it should get here soon I hope. Seems a bit long to arrive though. My luck it probably got shipped to the south pole. I have bad luck with the post it seems. Keep it a secret though what it is, I want it to be a surprise...

Also, are any of these tracks floating around?

Headmaster Ritual
(Phil Brown edit) {3:45}
original USA and Canada 7" single of "How Soon Is Now?"

How Soon Is Now?
(other edit) {5:30}
UK Buzz #004, a USA radio-only sampler LP

Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
(without fade-in) {3:14}
"The Queen Is Dead" album
(CBS or Festival Records releases in Australia only)

Work Is A Four Letter Word
(edited) {2:09}
7" single of "Girlfriend In A Coma"

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 24, 2007, 06:21 PM

robertzombie

February 24, 2007, 06:43 PM

CemetryGates

February 24, 2007, 07:15 PM

Yeh it has been a while...Right you are ;)

How Soon Is Now? (fade-out) (http://rapidshare.com/files/6550955/How_Soon_Is_Now__Fade-Out_.mp3)
The Queen Is Dead {6:06} (http://rapidshare.com/files/18084683/The_Queen_Is_Dead___How_Soon_Is_Now__Reissue_B-side_.mp3)

As for the others, I believe we're at a standstill. :(

If it gets lost I'm gonna kick the shit out of my mail box for sure:) And thanks for posting, though I didn't realize I had the "fade out" already and so I wasted your uploading time. Sorry about that. I've been away from the web for a few days in the past weeks, have any of these been posted?...The real ones, not fan versions...

The Boy Racer
(edit) {4:10}
USA promo cd of "The Boy Racer"

My Love Life
(USA version aka full length version) {4:49}
USA "My Love Life" single, all formats

Tomorrow
(radio edit) {3:21}
2-tracks USA promo cd of "Tomorrow"

davdavon

February 24, 2007, 07:41 PM

Moonriver (short version) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/xxz0n7)

smorrissey

February 24, 2007, 08:43 PM

Where is this from? Sounds like fan made ...

fan made, fan made, horrible...:mad:

smorrissey

February 24, 2007, 09:10 PM

thanks :D

yeah, thanks, i didn't know about these i thought they were the album versions all this time.... which others are like these?

DavidA

February 24, 2007, 09:16 PM

What Difference Does It Make?
(single edit) {3:10}
7" single of "What Difference Does It Make?" (except in the USA and Canada)

Hrm... passions mentions that this is the same version as on The Complete Picture, but my version of that is 3:25.

CemetryGates

February 24, 2007, 09:39 PM

My version is 3:25 as well. I guess the track maybe plays for around 3:22, but still it shows up as 3:25 and that's well off from 3:10.

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

February 24, 2007, 10:47 PM

Yeh mine's 3:25 too, I just presumed it was down to me having no idea how to work the DVD ripper properly. Oh and don't worry about the time wasting, I just copied the link that I posted back on the first page lol.

DavidA

February 24, 2007, 11:11 PM

Stephane had a typo on the site. Shame, I hoped I'd unearthed a new version.

CemetryGates

February 25, 2007, 12:30 AM

Typo?...So the "complete picture" version is the single edit after all?

Stephane

February 25, 2007, 04:23 PM

Typo?...So the "complete picture" version is the single edit after all?

Yes. The typo was carried over by copy-pasting from the Peel session version.

Stephane

Harry

February 26, 2007, 07:31 PM

Would somebody be able to re-upload the studio version of 'Jack the Ripper'?

Thank you my lovelies,

Harry

Kuiper

February 26, 2007, 08:34 PM

Here you are, good friend. :)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g8k91w

soundofthenorth

February 26, 2007, 10:57 PM

does any have the how soon is now with sfx? my mate has it and it's amazing. at the moment he is away on holiday. does anyone else have it or do i have to wait for him to return? :confused:

Not Right in the Head

February 27, 2007, 01:31 PM

I've found this, a long time ago, on the french forum dedicated to Morrissey. Someone may be interested by these demos...

http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=B5SAT655

Details, please...

Rusty Brown

February 27, 2007, 01:43 PM

Why don't you find out (excellent demo, very différent)
Spring-heeled (demo)
Sunny (demo)
Interlude (demo, just moz and no siouxie)
Billy Budd (demo)
And a few things that everyone knows (oh phoney,...).

!Viva Hate!

February 27, 2007, 02:13 PM

Yeah...UncleSkinny gave everyone that link a few months ago...

Harry

February 27, 2007, 07:50 PM

Here you are, good friend. :)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g8k91w

Thank you very much, Kuiper.

Harry

CemetryGates

February 28, 2007, 11:37 PM

Well, I know many many people are searching for this and I just got the disk in yesterday. So, here it is to those who want it.

Shakespeare's Sister (Hollywood Palladium 06-27-85 - Rarities Vol. 2 [Promo Only])

http://www.sendspace.com/file/czvxqk

Ripped at 320kbps. This is not a bootleg copy, it came directly from the Promo Only Rarities Vol. 2 Disk.

Kuiper

February 28, 2007, 11:39 PM

^^Thank you very much, CemetryGates! :D

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 1, 2007, 03:42 AM

You saint ! ;) :D

Many many thanks.

robertzombie

March 1, 2007, 07:04 PM

The Seeker of Good Songs

March 1, 2007, 07:11 PM

The long version is the one you want. You hear a lady (Street's wife), saying "Steven....STEVEN!!!", as if Morrissey's mother is calling him back from the brink of marriage in the manner of a mother calling her child in the playground. Genius.

Peter

I have owned this CD single, long version of "Will Never.." for 20 years (since it came out) and never heard the "Steven, Steven" part until now. I've always heard the "playground" sounds, but never really heard what they were saying. Are they also chanting "Steven"?
But now I hear the "mother" calling him.

It takes a pair of headphones to let one hear what is really in the recording.

Thank you Uncle for your insight.

I have always liked this song and others of its era for the string arrangements. I would like to hear Morrissey go back to this sound...but you can never go home again.

CemetryGates

March 1, 2007, 07:32 PM

I was ages before I heard it. I don't know that I would have, had someone not said it was in there. But, it's greatness when you hear it the first time.

DavidA

March 1, 2007, 11:35 PM

Headmaster Ritual - Phil Brown Edit {3:45}

I have this. I need to rip it from vinyl though.

How Soon Is Now? - Other Edit {5:30} [UK Buzz #004]

Don't have this.

Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others - No Fade In {3:14}

Waiting for this to arrive from Australia.

Work Is A Four Letter Word - Edit {2:09}

Have this. Need to rip it from vinyl.

I'll post these when I get them.

Any chance of a FLAC version of Shakespeare's Sister at the Palladium?

CemetryGates

March 2, 2007, 12:17 AM

Sure thing!....Not a problem at all. I can't believe you have those things. That is really something. I'll get the FLAC uploaded in a little bit.

Cheers!

!Viva Hate!

March 2, 2007, 12:30 AM

Sure thing!....Not a problem at all. I can't believe you have those things. That is really something. I'll get the FLAC uploaded in a little bit.

Cheers!
Your quest is near it's end! You must be elated!

CemetryGates

March 2, 2007, 01:12 AM

Having to track down everything seems to be a bit of a habit of mine, some might say a problem....But, it sure is great when something really hard to find suddenly shows up.

Here is the flac rip: http://www.sendspace.com/file/k3snjk

This is the first time I've ripped as FLAC so if there is any trouble let me know and I'll try again. I used Winamp to do it.

boy_afraid_Liverpool

March 2, 2007, 10:16 PM

Hi

I am not sure if this is the version of "hard to walk tall" that you are looking for but if it is then I am happy to oblige.

Neil

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=40SXN4AV

boy_afraid_Liverpool

March 2, 2007, 10:19 PM

Fairly sure I posted a duffer there. I am trying to find the audio copy I have off that DVD. I have it somewhere I know i do!

boy_afraid_Liverpool

March 2, 2007, 10:39 PM

The Youngest

March 2, 2007, 10:43 PM

Can someone please upload the long version of Will Never Marry from EILS?
Thanks
Adam :D

CemetryGates

March 2, 2007, 10:44 PM

Here is the DVD single version (AKA the Janice Long session)

At least anyone who had neither can now have both! (there's no need to choose!") Sorry I couldn't resist finishing that line.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7UVO0HD1

Thanks very much, it didn't want to work at first, but just got it now. Sounds great. I had a copy of it but it was the absolute worst rip I've ever heard. It was totally messed up with uneven volume. This is a great upgrade. Another off the list:)

Can someone please upload the long version of Will Never Marry from EILS?
Thanks
Adam :D

Here you are: http://www.sendspace.com/file/816hsh

!Viva Hate!

March 3, 2007, 10:39 AM

DavidA

March 3, 2007, 08:50 PM

This is the first time I've ripped as FLAC so if there is any trouble let me know and I'll try again. I used Winamp to do it.

Works great. Thanks!

I'll post the others just as soon as I get them into FLAC.

CemetryGates

March 3, 2007, 09:13 PM

Excellent, I can't wait to wrap my ears around those.

On a side note, I've been looking over some eBay auctions (not that I have any cash) for some of the other things I need. I found a copy of the US single "My Love Life" on there:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MORRISSEY-My-Love-Life-3-Track-CD-OOP-The-SMITHS_W0QQitemZ230099531715QQihZ013QQcategoryZ307 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230 099531715

This contains the 4:49 full lenght version but the description lists:

- My Love Life - With Chrissie Hynde 4:49

What's the deal, is that a mistake?

greconp

March 3, 2007, 09:28 PM

I'm looking for the following and I wonder if someone might have them:

The Queen is Dead (6:06) from the CD-single of "How Soon Is Now?"

I Want the one I can't have (Live Paris 2002) (4:41). It was apparently an official download at the time of the IJWTSTBH single.

Anybody have these? Thanks in advance.

greconp

March 3, 2007, 09:35 PM

And here is My Love Life (US Version), as far as I can tell.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/k87w6n

All the best to you.
n.

Kuiper

March 3, 2007, 09:38 PM

^^Thanks! :)

I don't have the download-only live version of I Want the One I Can't Have but here is the version of The Queen is Dead you are looking for:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7qyps2

greconp

March 3, 2007, 09:47 PM

Thanks for that version of "The Queen Is Dead."

Now I still would like to track down that download version of "I Want The One I Can't Have (Live Paris 2002)" from the time of IJWTSTBH.

Thanks again.

Not Right in the Head

March 4, 2007, 02:31 AM

smorrissey

March 4, 2007, 02:38 AM

Thanks very much, it didn't want to work at first, but just got it now. Sounds great. I had a copy of it but it was the absolute worst rip I've ever heard. It was totally messed up with uneven volume. This is a great upgrade. Another off the list:)

Here you are: http://www.sendspace.com/file/816hsh

Thanks God now you have it... now i can rest in peace. ;)

It's gonna take me two months more to get the original DVD but at the end i'm gonna have it.

Cheers.

CemetryGates

March 4, 2007, 02:50 AM

Now I still would like to track down that download version of "I Want The One I Can't Have (Live Paris 2002)" from the time of IJWTSTBH.

Here you are: http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iwh0r

The part about "With Chrissie Hynde"? No, she really does sing backup vocals on it.

I never knew that. I listened to it again a few times and now I can clearly hear her in there. Learn something everyday.

Thanks God now you have it... now i can rest in peace. ;)

It's gonna take me two months more to get the original DVD but at the end i'm gonna have it.

Cheers.

Yeah, I finally have it:) But, you know I totally forgot who it was who told me they had the single on order, I couldn't remember your screename. That's why I kept it on my list, not because I thought you weren't going to send it to me when you did get it:) I never doubted that someone would PM me about it eventually, unless they had forgotten my screename too.

It's all good...

greconp

March 4, 2007, 12:03 PM

Thanks so much for the copy of "I Want The One I Can't Have."

tender hooligan

March 4, 2007, 04:43 PM

Alternate or not, anone has Pregnant for the last time? Would be much appreciated

nightandday

March 6, 2007, 01:32 PM

Stephane

March 6, 2007, 03:42 PM

Rubber Ring / Asleep {7:56} - 12" and cd-single of "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side" (except in Japan)

Is this really a mix/do the songs fade into each other? Is there is an actual difference between that and those two songs played back to back?

They fade one into the other. It's nicely done. They never should have split the songs apart.

Stephane

CemetryGates

March 6, 2007, 07:05 PM

Nobody has mentioned this one so far, but it's listed at passions... does that mean you already have it?

Miserable Lie - live in Oxford 18/3/85 {4:27} from a Rough Trade compilation (Canada and Holland various artists compilation)

And I'm still looking for (just as everybody else) for

How Soon is Now? - Phil Brown edit {3:53}
How Soon is Now? - other edit {5:30} UK Buzz #004, a USA radio-only sampler LP
What Difference Does It Make? - single edit {3:25}
The Headmaster Ritual - Phil Brown edit {3:45}

the passionsjustlikemine site also lists:

Rubber Ring / Asleep {7:56} - 12" and cd-single of "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side" (except in Japan)

Is this really a mix/do the songs fade into each other? Is there is an actual difference between that and those two songs played back to back?

I don't list the Oxford tracks as I have the bootleg in high quality, so I'll let those rest for now. Some are only on vinyl and until someone gets them all transferred to digital I'll stick with what I have.

I do have..

How Soon is Now? - Phil Brown edit {3:53}
What Difference Does It Make? - single edit {3:25}
Rubber Ring / Asleep {7:56} - 12" and cd-single of "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side" (except in Japan)

I'll post them later today...

Not Right in the Head

March 6, 2007, 07:33 PM

I don't list the Oxford tracks as I have the bootleg in high quality, so I'll let those rest for now. Some are only on vinyl and until someone gets them all transferred to digital I'll stick with what I have.

I do have..

How Soon is Now? - Phil Brown edit {3:53}
What Difference Does It Make? - single edit {3:25}
Rubber Ring / Asleep {7:56} - 12" and cd-single of "The Boy With The Thorn In His Side" (except in Japan)

I'll post them later today...

I've posted the John Peel U.K. Buzz #004 "How Soon Is Now?" edit for you (and everyone else) in another thread (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?p=491810#post491810).

Not Right in the Head

March 6, 2007, 07:40 PM

They fade one into the other. It's nicely done. They never should have split the songs apart.

Well, they barely overlap. Whereas the standalone "Rubber Ring" has a single "you do not want to believe...you are sleeping" after the music stops, the medley has a couple more, during which the howling winds start up for "Asleep."

p.s. I bought my copy from Stephane. Thanks, Stephane!

CemetryGates

March 6, 2007, 10:21 PM

I've posted the John Peel U.K. Buzz #004 "How Soon Is Now?" edit for you (and everyone else) in another thread (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?p=491810#post491810).

I just got that. Thank you very much. I expected that to remain on my list forever. Good transfer from vinyl too:)

Anyway, here are the other things I'm due to post...

Rubber Ring-Asleep (12'' & CD Single ''The Boy With The Thorn In His Side'' [Except Japan]): http://www.sendspace.com/file/05ynjm

What Difference Does It Make (Single Edit - 7'' Single ''What Difference Does It Make'' [Not US & Canada]): http://www.sendspace.com/file/skvfe3

How Soon Is Now (Phil Brown Edit - Original US 12'' & US & Canada 7'' ''How Soon Is Now''): http://rapidshare.com/files/16268151/How_Soon_Is_Now__Phil_Brown_Edit_.MP3

Note: How Soon Is Now link is recycled from a previous post by "WhyDifferenceDoesItMake?"...I can't take credit for posting that one.

!Viva Hate!

March 7, 2007, 11:06 AM

I came upon it a long time ago but Rubber Ring/Asleep combo is excellent...

bobalmighty

March 7, 2007, 04:43 PM

All I need now are the one's on cemetery's list. The Stafford "In The Future". All the "Youngests" live. And Willam/What She Said/Miserable Lie from oxford off random compilations. And HIG live from the TIALTNGO re-release

lutewhine

March 7, 2007, 05:09 PM

Haven't seen mention of the edits of Roy's Keen and Satan Rejected My Soul. I've got promo CDs of each of these somewhere.

CemetryGates

March 7, 2007, 05:47 PM

Haven't seen mention of the edits of Roy's Keen and Satan Rejected My Soul. I've got promo CDs of each of these somewhere.

I didn't know there were such edits. I don't see them listed on Passions.

lutewhine

March 7, 2007, 06:05 PM

I asked about them years ago in the old Marketplace. I think I picked them up from a record fair kind of thinking they were bootlegs due to their sparse packaging, but from what I remember someone suggested they could actually be internal promos. They're definitely different runtimes than the released versions.

I've not played them in ages, but on closer examination I think we established that both had their intros shorn down, while someone pointed out that something in the lyrics was very slightly different in Satan.

I'll dig them out and give them a listen. To be honest it may take me a while to notice anything different at all - I've never been big on either track, and it's been a while since I listened to the actual released versions.

CemetryGates

March 7, 2007, 07:23 PM

I'd be interested to hear them myself if you're up for posting them. What does internal promo mean?

lutewhine

March 7, 2007, 08:24 PM

I think the suggestion was "internal" as in CDs for employees of the label, as opposed to distribution to press, radio etc.

Anyway, I'll try and dig them out.

soundofthenorth

March 7, 2007, 09:37 PM

Could anyone upload WDDIMake Single Version on Mp3? the track wont play on my computer. Also is it any different to the album? i.e does it just fade out or re-recorded? tah if you can help me out

CemetryGates

March 7, 2007, 09:54 PM

Could anyone upload WDDIMake Single Version on Mp3? the track wont play on my computer. Also is it any different to the album? i.e does it just fade out or re-recorded? tah if you can help me out

Just add .mp3 to the end of the file that I have posted. I guess the lenghty filename was too much for Sendspace and it got cut off making it unrecognizable to your computer. Try that and if that doesn't work I'll rename it and repost the file again. It's not a re-recording as far as I know, it's just edited down I think.

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 7, 2007, 09:57 PM

HIG live from the TIALTNGO re-release

Here's the Hand In Glove (Live) (http://rapidshare.com/files/19919717/Hand_In_Glove__Live_-__There_Is_A_Light_That_Never_Goes_Out__B-side_.mp3), I can't help with your other requests though as I think mine are all from the various bootlegs.

Many MANY thanks to Not Right in the Head, for the How Soon Is Now? edit, I too was pessimistic about getting it.

lutewhine

March 7, 2007, 09:58 PM

Found them!

Morrissey - Roy's Keen (radio edit)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/n53syg

Morrissey - Satan Rejected My Soul (radio edit)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o40vj3

Roy's Keen is 3:14, compared to the single version which is 3:34
Satan... is 2:43, compared to the single version which is 2:56

As I thought, they come in a lot more promptly than the released versions I've got. They're both labelled as radio edits on the inlays. Couldn't immediately pick out any lyrical difference in either of them, but I do definitely recall someone pointing something out years back.

There's also another CD with the same labelling and packaging, labelled simply "E.P.", which has all the Maladjusted-era B-sides, albeit in a different order from the Rare Tracks CD. It doesn't list run-times, so I'll check them against the singles at some point. Just flicking through it, none of them sound unusual.

CemetryGates

March 7, 2007, 10:45 PM

Are you able to share the labeling/artwork?

lutewhine

March 7, 2007, 10:52 PM

I'd rather not post scans - they've got a really, really simply replicatable inlay, and now I've put the tracks up (albeit at 112kbps), it'd basically be just inviting someone to bootleg them.

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 12:13 AM

No problem.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 01:33 AM

I'd rather not post scans - they've got a really, really simply replicatable inlay, and now I've put the tracks up (albeit at 112kbps), it'd basically be just inviting someone to bootleg them.

Ha! You say that as if there's something wrong with bootlegging, and yet look what forum you're in! :) Thanks for posting the songs!

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 01:43 AM

Many MANY thanks to Not Right in the Head, for the How Soon Is Now? edit, I too was pessimistic about getting it.

No problem. I paid more than I thought it the LP was worth, but it's the only copy that I'd seen on eBay for months. BTW, I can digitize more of the LP, if anyone wants it.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 01:44 AM

Morrissey

The Boy Racer - Edit {4:10}

Tomorrow - Radio Edit {3:21}

The Smiths:

Headmaster Ritual - Phil Brown Edit {3:45}

Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others - No Fade In {3:14}

Work Is A Four Letter Word - Edit {2:09}

BTW, I have all but the "Some Girls" edit. I'll post them tonight if I can get to it.

BTW 2, if anyone's in a giving mood, here's my wishlist (http://www.last.fm/user/jrtibbetts/journal/2007/01/16/316611/). I'm especially looking for the 7" edit of "Barbarism Begins at Home," a good audio rip of the promo video version of "Alma Matters," and the Peel session "Nowhere Fast" and "William" from the "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" CD single (especially since I've lost EVERY "Barbarism" and "Last Night" CD single auction on eBay since October!)

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 02:43 AM

BTW, I have all but the "Some Girls" edit. I'll post them tonight if I can get to it.

BTW 2, if anyone's in a giving mood, here's my wishlist (http://www.last.fm/user/jrtibbetts/journal/2007/01/16/316611/). I'm especially looking for the 7" edit of "Barbarism Begins at Home," a good audio rip of the promo video version of "Alma Matters," and the Peel session "Nowhere Fast" and "William" from the "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" CD single (especially since I've lost EVERY "Barbarism" and "Last Night" CD single auction on eBay since October!)

That sounds great, thank you.

Here is the Barbarism Begins At Home - 7'' Edit...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cnpgur

Here is the Italian Alt version of How Soon Is Now...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3i1we5

Most of my Live stuff is from bootleg compliations so I can't be sure if those are rips from the singles or not. I'll check them out for you though, just to see what I can come up with. I was never able to get a copy of the "Last Night..." single either, so I had to make due with what I had.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 04:54 AM

That sounds great, thank you.

Here is the Barbarism Begins At Home - 7'' Edit...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cnpgur

Here is the Italian Alt version of How Soon Is Now...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3i1we5

Way cool. And in return, all on Sendspace, are:

The Boy Racer (fade) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx9zwy) (promo CD > Apple Lossless > 192kbps MP3)

Tomorrow (radio remix by Steve Peck) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/59ftcl) (promo CD > Apple Lossless > 192kpbs MP3)

The Headmaster Ritual (Phil Brown edit) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/q1t7a0) (7" > AIFF > 192kbps MP3)

Work Is a Four Letter Word (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rpj2xd) (7" > Apple Lossless > 192kbps MP3)

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 05:51 AM

Excellent. Thank you :) That only leaves me wanting a single track now...

Oso Blanco

March 8, 2007, 08:02 AM

I'm especially looking for the 7" edit of "Barbarism Begins at Home," a good audio rip of the promo video version of "Alma Matters," and the Peel session "Nowhere Fast" and "William" from the "Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me" CD single (especially since I've lost EVERY "Barbarism" and "Last Night" CD single auction on eBay since October!)

Looks like I've beaten you on eBay ... :D

Here you go:

Rusholme Ruffians (http://www.sendspace.com/file/brtmgz)
Nowhere Fast (http://www.sendspace.com/file/tvhm7e)
William, It Was Really Nothing (http://www.sendspace.com/file/bhflld)

bobalmighty

March 8, 2007, 10:30 AM

Thanks for all these. Down to 3 more songs now!

lutewhine

March 8, 2007, 01:04 PM

Ha! You say that as if there's something wrong with bootlegging, and yet look what forum you're in! :) Thanks for posting the songs!

Heh heh. But it's one thing to download very slightly different versions of songs you own 5 times over. Once artwork comes into the equation, that's when a few of these things suddenly randomly turn up on ebay... :)

Anyone had chance to check them out? I've had another couple of listens today to try and work out what's different lyrically about Satan, but nothing's leaping out at me.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 01:07 PM

Heh heh. But it's one thing to download very slightly different versions of songs you own 5 times over. Once artwork comes into the equation, that's when a few of these things suddenly randomly turn up on ebay... :)

Anyone had chance to check them out? I've had another couple of listens today to try and work out what's different lyrically about Satan, but nothing's leaping out at me.

I don't hear any lyrical differences, except that the fade-out on "Roy's Keen" either happens later than on the release (so that you can hear a few more vocals) or I just never paid enough attention to the end of the original. The difference in "Satan" seems to be the removal of a non-vocal section. Thanks for posting them! (No chance of 192kpbs uploads of them, is there? We promise not to counterfeit them!)

soundofthenorth

March 8, 2007, 01:28 PM

Was there never a cd version of
Here is the Italian Alt version of How Soon Is Now...
Work Is a Four Letter Word (im sure ive got a cd version of this, is the 7inch any way different to it)

also tomorrow steve peck remix, im sure that is on the suedehead morrissey best of release, is'nt it?

cheers for the barbarism+headmaster edits. could anyone re-up the what difference mp3 & hand in glove live & How soon is PHil b. edit on sendspace links please. id be more than happy if anyone could help.
also ive found the HOW SOON IS NOW SFX Version, too obvious its a bootleg but let me know if anyone wants me to up it.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 02:58 PM

Was there never a cd version of
Here is the Italian Alt version of How Soon Is Now...

Nope.

Work Is a Four Letter Word (im sure ive got a cd version of this, is the 7inch any way different to it)

Not that I know of.

also tomorrow steve peck remix, im sure that is on the suedehead morrissey best of release, is'nt it?

Yes and no. The one that I posted is a 3:21 edit of the version that's on the Suedehead collection, and is found only on the US 2-track promo.

As usual, all of this information is taken from Passions (http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/moz-l.htm).

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 02:59 PM

Looks like I've beaten you on eBay ... :D

Here you go:

Rusholme Ruffians (http://www.sendspace.com/file/brtmgz)
Nowhere Fast (http://www.sendspace.com/file/tvhm7e)
William, It Was Really Nothing (http://www.sendspace.com/file/bhflld)

I guess that posting these somewhat makes up for you beating me at auction. :)

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 03:11 PM

Heh heh. But it's one thing to download very slightly different versions of songs you own 5 times over. Once artwork comes into the equation, that's when a few of these things suddenly randomly turn up on ebay... :)

Anyone had chance to check them out? I've had another couple of listens today to try and work out what's different lyrically about Satan, but nothing's leaping out at me.

Seriously, though, I'd like to see even crappy scans and find out what Stephane (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/member.php?u=402) and Stefan Krix (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/member.php?u=212) have to say about them, since they seem to be among the residents experts on promos.

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 8, 2007, 03:24 PM

Nice one NRITH! It seems you have pretty much all the rarities!

From your list:

The Smiths – Barbarism Begins at Home (7" edit, 3:48) (http://rapidshare.com/files/6551375/Barbarism_Begins_At_Home__Edit_.mp3)
The Smiths – Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (German-only single edit) (http://rapidshare.com/files/20024442/Some_Girls_Are_Bigger_Than_Others__Edit_-_German__Some_Girls_Are...__.mp3)

Everything else has either been uploaded for you or unavailable.

I now have everything released besides:

Meat Is Murder (live Oxford 18/3/85) {5:54} ("Animal Liberation" compilation)
Miserable Lie (live Oxford 18/3/85) {4:27} (Rough Trade "Compilation")
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (without fade-in) {3:14} (David's ordered this hasn't he?)
William It Was Really Nothing (live at Oxford Apollo 18/3/85) (12" test pressing of the Meat is Murder live EP)

Thanks for sharing people.

bobalmighty

March 8, 2007, 03:29 PM

Yeah thanks everyone. My list of needs is the same as WDDIM's plus

The Youngest Was The Most Loved - Sheffield & Alexandria Palace
In The Future - V Festival 19th

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 03:38 PM

Nice one NRITH! It seems you have pretty much all the rarities!

If only! See below...

From your list:

The Smiths – Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (German-only single edit) (http://rapidshare.com/files/20024442/Some_Girls_Are_Bigger_Than_Others__Edit_-_German__Some_Girls_Are...__.mp3)

THANK YOU!

Everything else has either been uploaded for you or unavailable.

I now have everything released besides:

Meat Is Murder (live Oxford 18/3/85) {5:54} ("Animal Liberation" compilation)
Miserable Lie (live Oxford 18/3/85) {4:27} (Rough Trade "Compilation")
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (without fade-in) {3:14} (David's ordered this hasn't he?)
William It Was Really Nothing (live at Oxford Apollo 18/3/85) (12" test pressing of the Meat is Murder live EP)

Thanks for sharing people.

Of these, I have only the "Meat Is Murder" from the Animal Liberation LP, but I haven't yet digitized it. The extra 20 seconds of crowd noise aren't a big motivator to do so anytime soon :)

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 03:43 PM

I asked about them years ago in the old Marketplace. I think I picked them up from a record fair kind of thinking they were bootlegs due to their sparse packaging, but from what I remember someone suggested they could actually be internal promos. They're definitely different runtimes than the released versions.

Sorry for so many posts in this thread, but I found that Stefan Krix (http://www.krix-s.de/morrissey_releases2.htm) does indeed list a 3:26 radio-edit promo for "Roy's Keen," but doesn't mention any difference for the "Satan" promo.

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 8, 2007, 04:09 PM

Of these, I have only the "Meat Is Murder" from the Animal Liberation LP, but I haven't yet digitized it. The extra 20 seconds of crowd noise aren't a big motivator to do so anytime soon :)

Haha I can see why it wouldn't, but it's an alternative version, so naturally I MUST have it. :o

Could I ask what the steps for digitizing tracks are? I'm curious...

Stephane

March 8, 2007, 04:32 PM

Seriously, though, I'd like to see even crappy scans and find out what Stephane (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/member.php?u=402) and Stefan Krix (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/member.php?u=212) have to say about them, since they seem to be among the residents experts on promos.

I own those... They are not promos, they serve in-house purposes. That's why they are not listed in the song versions list on "Passions Just Like Mine". The versions were never distributed, not even on promos. They were probably considered at some point, but the promos were still produced with the same versions that were released.

"Roys Keen" is not even listed as a 'radio edit', simply 'edit'.

And my "Satan..." acetate cd actually says the song is 2:56, like the released version. However I didn't put it in the cd player to check if it was shorter.

Stephane

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 05:05 PM

Haha I can see why it wouldn't, but it's an alternative version, so naturally I MUST have it. :o

Preaching to the choir :)

Could I ask what the steps for digitizing tracks are? I'm curious...

My current setup is:

Technics SLDD-33 turntable (~1987 vintage) (priceless)
TCC TC-750LC Phono Preamp ($50) (TCC TC-750LC Phono Preamp)
Griffin iMic (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/imic/) ($35)
iMac 24" Intel Core 2 Duo (priceless) :D
RogueAmoeba Audio Hijack Pro (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/) (sound in to AIFF, noise reduction) ($32)
RogueAmoeba Fission (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/) (track splitting) ($18)
iTunes (AAC & MP3 conversion) (free)

To capture, select the system's default sound in as the source, pick a location to save the tracks, press "Hijack" and "Record," then play the record. When finished, split the tracks with Fission, and add tags in iTunes.

I'm not an audiophile; in fact, I don't even own a pair of headphones to make editing easier, so my recordings wouldn't pass muster with, say the FLAC/smithstorrents die-hards. True audiophiles can probably also tell that my turntable could use a new needle. :)

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 05:08 PM

I own those... They are not promos, they serve in-house purposes. That's why they are not listed in the song versions list on "Passions Just Like Mine". The versions were never distributed, not even on promos. They were probably considered at some point, but the promos were still produced with the same versions that were released.

THANK GAWD. Now I won't have to embezzle from my kids' college funds (any more than I already have). Thanks for clarifying this, Stephane!

Stefan Krix

March 8, 2007, 06:04 PM

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 06:51 PM

could anyone re-up the what difference mp3 & hand in glove live & How soon is PHil b. edit on sendspace links please.

Here you are, I shortened the filenames this time so Sendspace doesn't chop the file extention. They should play fine now.

What Difference Does It Make - Single Edit

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hqfauu

Hand in Glove - Live

http://www.sendspace.com/file/48xsd8

How Soon Is Now - Phil Brown Edit

http://www.sendspace.com/file/apq1uw

And, I think there was a bit of trouble with the file extention of the Rubber Ring/Asleep combo so here that is again too:

Rubber Ring/Asleep

http://www.sendspace.com/file/15b6n7

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 07:01 PM

"The Boy Racer" (Original / Fade / Radio Edit).

Aren't there only two versions of The Boy Racer, the Southpaw version and the version from the 1 Track US Promo?

nightandday

March 8, 2007, 07:03 PM

Has anyone got this:

How Soon is Now? - other edit {5:30} UK Buzz #004, a USA radio-only sampler LP

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 8, 2007, 07:09 PM

Look at the bottom of this forum, NRITH's thread should still be there.

Also thanks for the explanation on your digitalizing!

soundofthenorth

March 8, 2007, 07:17 PM

Here you are, I shortened the filenames this time so Sendspace doesn't chop the file extention. They should play fine now.

What Difference Does It Make - Single Edit

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hqfauu

Hand in Glove - Live

http://www.sendspace.com/file/48xsd8

How Soon Is Now - Phil Brown Edit

http://www.sendspace.com/file/apq1uw

And, I think there was a bit of trouble with the file extention of the Rubber Ring/Asleep combo so here that is again too:

Rubber Ring/Asleep

http://www.sendspace.com/file/15b6n7

from the bottom of my heart i thank you CemetryGates, they sound great. more to my collection :D also a thank you to Not Right in the Head for the info. should read passions site more ;)

bobalmighty

March 8, 2007, 07:27 PM

Does anyone have the Stafford "In The Future..."? (From August 19th)

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 08:18 PM

Aren't there only two versions of The Boy Racer, the Southpaw version and the version from the 1 Track US Promo?

Correct. The "Fade" and "radio edit" are probably one and the same. And it's a 2-track promo (at least mine--the one with the black lettering on orange cover--is).

FWIW, the "Fade" version doesn't fade out at all; it just truncates the non-vocal part a bit.

lutewhine

March 8, 2007, 08:20 PM

Hi all,

i can only second Stephane as usual. I do have 4 different Cd versions of "Satan" and they all run 2:56 as stated on all sleeves.

"Roy's Keen" is s bit different. Someone submitted a scan of the in-house CDR which clearly stated 3:26. Without having the possibility to prove it, i do think that this version will be the same as the normal one(s), which do vary in itself: the Island commercial version says 3:36, the Island promo 3:34 (as also stated on the Maladjusted sleeve).

Just to confuse matters even further, I've got two copies of the Roy's Keen in-house CDR, which I've always assumed to be the same. They're both exactly the same on the outside (stating "Roy's Keen Edit"), but they are actually two different run-times.

One is the 3:26 edit that Stefan and Stephane are talking about, while the other is the 3:14 edit that I uploaded yesterday. The latter is labelled "Roy's Keen Radio Edit 3:14" on the inside of the inlay. The 3:14 edit seems to fade out earlier and more abruptly.

As for the Satan edit, I think it's the second chorus that's different, going by the lyrics here at It May All End Tomorrow (http://www.oz.net/~moz/lyrics/maladjus/satanrej.htm).

Can someone confirm if the second verse in the recorded version begins "Take it please/It's free" or "Take it please/It's really sly"? I took my CD single to work today and inadvertantly left it there, so I can't check it myself. This does ring a bell, but I'd be grateful if someone else could check it out and let me know. I think I've listened to the damn song more times since last night than the previous 9 and a half years since the bloody thing came out!

Here's the link to the edit again...

Morrissey - Satan Rejected My Soul (radio edit)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o40vj3

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 08:21 PM

also a thank you to Not Right in the Head for the info. should read passions site more ;)

Indeed. I read it every day, which probably contributed to Stephane maxing out his bandwidth in January. :eek:

I've been itching to write up a Passions "companion" that would allow you to keep track of your collection by automatically checking off song versions whenever you obtain a given release (e.g. buying the Rare Tracks EP would check off all of the b-sides from Maladjusted), but that's straying off-topic here.

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 08:51 PM

Correct. The "Fade" and "radio edit" are probably one and the same. And it's a 2-track promo (at least mine--the one with the black lettering on orange cover--is).

FWIW, the "Fade" version doesn't fade out at all; it just truncates the non-vocal part a bit.

It was a 2 track promo? I thought it was only 1 track after reading the Promotion section of Passions "The Boy Racer" page. What was the other track?...

bobalmighty

March 8, 2007, 08:57 PM

According to Stefan Krix's page. It's the reprise promo and the 2 tracks are the fade version and the regular version.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 08:58 PM

As for the Satan edit, I think it's the second chorus that's different, going by the lyrics here at It May All End Tomorrow (http://www.oz.net/%7Emoz/lyrics/maladjus/satanrej.htm).

Can someone confirm if the second verse in the recorded version begins "Take it please/It's free" or "Take it please/It's really sly"? I took my CD single to work today and inadvertantly left it there, so I can't check it myself. This does ring a bell, but I'd be grateful if someone else could check it out and let me know. I think I've listened to the damn song more times since last night than the previous 9 and a half years since the bloody thing came out!

Well, I'll be jiggered: you're absolutely right. Here's my non-scientific analysis--the album version is on the left, the promo one on the right:

0:00 "grinding" guitar preamble -
0:10 guitar riff 0:00
0:24 verse 1 0:14
0:50 chorus 1 ("it's free") 0:39
1:07 verse 2 0:55
1:32 chorus 2 ("sly" on Maladjusted; "it's free" on promo) 1:22
1:42 "come on, come on" 1:31
1:47 chorus 3 ("sly" on both) 1:40
2:02 bridge 1:51
2:16 "call me in" 2:04
2:56 end 2:43

I would never have noticed this if you hadn't mentioned it. In fact, I thought that the edit came off the end, but of course it's the opening 10 seconds that were lopped off.

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 09:02 PM

According to Stefan Krix's page. It's the reprise promo and the 2 tracks are the fade version and the regular version.

Right. The UK promo is 1 track; the US is 2. Stephane lists it on the "Southpaw Grammar" page (http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/disc/moz-d32sg.htm) (not the "The Boy Racer" page (http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/disc/moz-d33tbr.htm)) because it was a promo for the album. The UK promo has the full-length version, right? The US promo cover is shown below (hotlinked from Passions):
http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/images/tbr-uspr.jpg

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 09:10 PM

Ok, so the edit of The Boy Racer that you posted for me a few pages back is from the 2 track US Promo CD?...That right?...

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 09:12 PM

Ok, so the edit of The Boy Racer that you posted for me a few pages back is from the 2 track US Promo CD?...That right?...

Of course. Paid an assload for it, too.

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 09:18 PM

Ok, got it sorted now. After a while all this stuff gets a bit foggy in the mind. I've been lost a number of times just this week...

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 09:30 PM

Ok, got it sorted now. After a while all this stuff gets a bit foggy in the mind.

No kidding...

BTW, I've done an analysis of "The Boy Racer" versions, and it's not as interesting as the "Satan" one that I did above. They're the same up to 2:50, when the bridge starts. Then, (again with the album version on the left, promo on the right):

3:03 chorus 5 2:56
3:46 outro jam 3:10
4:19 drum breakdown 3:46
4:45 end 4:10

The Seeker of Good Songs

March 8, 2007, 09:45 PM

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 10:06 PM

Thanks to everyone who shared their rarities.

Personally I found How Soon Is Now (Alt. Version - Italy 12'' ''William It Was Really Nothing'') and Jack The Ripper to be the most interesting alternates.
The radio edits and fades outs of versions are nice in that they are different, but these two songs are truely unique.

Do you mean the studio version of "JtR"? It's quite bizarre, especially since the live version is so well-known, not to mention pretty well-loved my members of this forum.

What is the difference with the Work Is A Four Letter Word that was shared here from that on the cd single. It's been a long time since I listened to it to know the diff.

Again, it just truncates a chorus or two. Not an alternate version, if that's what you mean.

And who is Phil Brown?

Dunno. Definitely not a very interesting remixer, that's for sure.

The Seeker of Good Songs

March 8, 2007, 10:37 PM

Do you mean the studio version of "JtR"? It's quite bizarre, especially since the live version is so well-known, not to mention pretty well-loved my members of this forum.

Yes, JtR studio.

Thanks for your input.

CemetryGates

March 8, 2007, 10:53 PM

What is the difference with the Work Is A Four Letter Word that was shared here from that on the cd single.

I didn't go though it in detail, but I think it's just shotened is all.

Kuiper

March 8, 2007, 10:56 PM

Yes, Work is just faded out earlier. To be honest I don't see the point of why they edited it, it's rather short to begin with.

Whoa, this thread has had a lot of activity I've missed out on. So thank you all for your extremely generous contributions of time, knowledge, and downloads. :) You all are wonderful posters that make this forum a great place to be. :)

nightandday

March 8, 2007, 11:22 PM

Do you mean the studio version of "JtR"? It's quite bizarre, especially since the live version is so well-known, not to mention pretty well-loved my members of this forum.

I'm one of those who prefer the studio version.

Why are all the edits of How Soon Is Now so awful? Maybe not the one from UK Buzz, but the rip of that one is full of sounds of vinyl cracking and hissing. The thing is, I'm making a The Smiths mix CD for a friend who really needs to be converted to Smithdom, I've almost decided on the tracklist but it turns out about half a minute too long. :( And I've even put the single edit of That Joke... I'm not going to put the single edit of Last Night I Dreamt..., the album version is so much better, so unless there's a shorter version of HSIN I'll have to chuck some other song out.

Kuiper

March 8, 2007, 11:25 PM

I know I'm ignorant to say this and that you probably already have it or the quality of it isn't great, but I have the edit they used in the unofficial video that I find superior. It loses nothing, the ending is somewhat different. The "there's a club" bridge is followed immediately by "when you say it's gonna happen now" and then just the line "I am human and I need to be loved just like everybody else does" in the slightly different way of delivery Morrissey uses unlike the earlier appearances of the chorus.

BTW, while I prefer the live version of Jack the Ripper, I adore the studio version.

bobalmighty

March 8, 2007, 11:29 PM

I know I've asked a lot. But it's the last one I need now I have all the Youngests. The Stafford 19.08 In The Future pretty please? I know I haven't done much on the boards for a long time. But pleeeease?

Kuiper

March 8, 2007, 11:30 PM

I have the In the Future download only live tracks, I'll upload that one right away...

I'm in search of two Youngests if you don't mind, I'll just have to check which ones I'm missing...

Not Right in the Head

March 8, 2007, 11:31 PM

Why are all the edits of How Soon Is Now so awful? Maybe not the one from UK Buzz, but the rip of that one is full of sounds of vinyl cracking and hissing.

Uh, that's what vinyl rips sound like. I can't do much about the quality of my LP copy. Sorry that it doesn't meet your bootlegging standards. Good thing I didn't post my short version of "Moon River"!

nightandday

March 8, 2007, 11:33 PM

I know I'm ignorant to say this and that you probably already have it or the quality of it isn't great, but I have the edit they used in the unofficial video that I find superior. It loses nothing, the ending is somewhat different. The "there's a club" bridge is followed immediately by "when you say it's gonna happen now" and then just the line "I am human and I need to be loved just like everybody else does" in the slightly different way of delivery Morrissey uses unlike the earlier appearances of the chorus.

That's the 'Phil Brown edit' (3:57), right? I'm not happy with it, the ending sounds very strange. It sounds OK until the final "I am human..." part, that part just feels stuck at the end, it doesn't feel natural at all. If might be OK if there was a pause between 'all my hope is gone' and 'I am human and I need to be loved..' :-/

Kuiper

March 8, 2007, 11:34 PM

Yes, sorry, I knew you were gonna end already having it and there was going to some problem. :o

Here is the In the Future performance from Stafford:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vj2p4o

nightandday

March 8, 2007, 11:36 PM

Uh, that's what vinyl rips sound like. I can't do much about the quality of my LP copy. Sorry that it doesn't meet your bootlegging standards. Good thing I didn't post my short version of "Moon River"!
No need to get so upset. :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: I'm thankful for the track you posted, I was just talking about the CD for a friend that's supposed to make her love The Smiths (or so I hope) and why I can't put that track on it. It would stick out among the rest and she would have to change volume while the CD plays because one track would be much quieter than the others and full of hissing.

Kuiper

March 8, 2007, 11:41 PM

No need to get so upset. I'm thankful for the track you posted, I'm just saying why I can't put it on a CD for a friend that's supposed to make her love The Smiths (or so I hope).

I sincerely wish you good luck in converting your friend, people need to learn to love Morrissey. ;) I've had...bad luck...with converting people. :o How Soon is Now? usually seems to get people's attention, probably because they've heard it before, but usually its length does make people lose interest.

nightandday

March 8, 2007, 11:55 PM

I sincerely wish you good luck in converting your friend, people need to learn to love Morrissey. ;) I've had...bad luck...with converting people. :o How Soon is Now? usually seems to get people's attention, probably because they've heard it before, but usually its length does make people lose interest.
I think she may be converted. She knows very few Smiths songs - only those that are played very often in clubs, probably. She knows Girlfriend In A Coma and Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others and hates both. it's funny that people usually say The Smiths are 'miserable' and 'depressive', and she said she disliked them because they're silly and frivolous. :D She was particularly annoyed by Girlfriend because she thought it was sick to treat such a subject matter in such a light manner. I tried to explain that she should heard other songs...those two are really not the best possible introduction to The Smiths...

fortunately she's started to come to her senses, she said a while ago that she read some of Morrissey's lyrics and it changed her opinion completely. :) I think she's now ripe for conversion, it's also her birthday in a week, the mix CD will make a good present. (of course I'm also going to burn the whole Smiths/Moz discography and lots of other stuff on a DVD, but I think an audio CD is a more immediate way to get someone to listen)

I'll probably end up using the Phil Brown edit after all. it's still better than the 'Shine' edit that crops half of the song.

bobalmighty

March 9, 2007, 12:11 AM

Thank you greatly Kuiper.

lutewhine

March 9, 2007, 12:40 AM

Well, I'll be jiggered: you're absolutely right. Here's my non-scientific analysis--the album version is on the left, the promo one on the right:

0:00 "grinding" guitar preamble -
0:10 guitar riff 0:00
0:24 verse 1 0:14
0:50 chorus 1 ("it's free") 0:39
1:07 verse 2 0:55
1:32 chorus 2 ("sly" on Maladjusted; "it's free" on promo) 1:22
1:42 "come on, come on" 1:31
1:47 chorus 3 ("sly" on both) 1:40
2:02 bridge 1:51
2:16 "call me in" 2:04
2:56 end 2:43

I would never have noticed this if you hadn't mentioned it. In fact, I thought that the edit came off the end, but of course it's the opening 10 seconds that were lopped off.

Yaaaaay! I can delete the bastard thing from my mp3 player now then. Must've listened to the damn song about 40 times in 24 hours. Quite why I didn't just pull up a page with the lyrics on and just compare it, I have no idea. :D

boy_afraid_Liverpool

March 9, 2007, 01:27 PM

I have always loved the studio version of jack the ripper but the live version on Beethoven just cranks it up a bit and did make the song more electric for me, I enjoyed it more as a live track. Then I heard it on the tour in 2004 and beyond when he took the line "crash in to my arms, I want you" up at the end and not down and fell completely in love with that version. Just that subtle change to the way that line is delivered for me makes the song. I would have loved to have heard the studio version sung that way and with the more electrified guitar riffs. (not sure if anyone agrees or thinks I am rambling but I think I understand me!)

I know I'm ignorant to say this and that you probably already have it or the quality of it isn't great, but I have the edit they used in the unofficial video that I find superior. It loses nothing, the ending is somewhat different. The "there's a club" bridge is followed immediately by "when you say it's gonna happen now" and then just the line "I am human and I need to be loved just like everybody else does" in the slightly different way of delivery Morrissey uses unlike the earlier appearances of the chorus.

BTW, while I prefer the live version of Jack the Ripper, I adore the studio version.

DavidA

March 12, 2007, 11:53 PM

Here's Some Girls without the fade.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2djblRpTk00b0EwTVE9PQ

bored

March 13, 2007, 12:44 AM

Here's Some Girls without the fade.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2djblRpTk00b0EwTVE9PQ

I take it this was someone's personal edit????

There is a weird blip around 15 seconds where the bassline is off.

bored

March 13, 2007, 01:16 AM

One song no has mentioned is Bed Took Fire.. which eventually was released with a slightly different mix as At Amber.

Kuiper

March 13, 2007, 01:18 AM

Do you need that uploaded or are you just pointing that out? :)

bored

March 13, 2007, 01:33 AM

I have it on a drive that isn't even in a computer.. but... you can be sure that if I say don't worry about it, someone else will say... "worry about it!"

Kuiper

March 13, 2007, 01:36 AM

Well okay, if you ever need it again, you can just ask me. ;) I like uploading stuff for people. :o

DavidA

March 13, 2007, 02:01 AM

I take it this was someone's personal edit????

There is a weird blip around 15 seconds where the bassline is off.

Nope. It's an official release on the original Australian version of Queen Is Dead. I agree - it ain't too pretty.

Mjrico

March 13, 2007, 07:58 AM

Cool thanks, i love "Some girl..." But i have a question. Have anybody a Karaoke Version from Some girls..?

WhatDifferenceDoesItMake?

March 13, 2007, 06:25 PM

Disappointing edit, but thanks all the same for the excellent upload David.

applebuttaz

March 15, 2007, 08:24 PM

please does anyone have trash the cover morrissey did?

Duncan_Dhu

June 7, 2007, 02:40 PM

Way cool. And in return, all on Sendspace, are:

The Boy Racer (fade) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx9zwy) (promo CD > Apple Lossless > 192kbps MP3)

Tomorrow (radio remix by Steve Peck) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/59ftcl) (promo CD > Apple Lossless > 192kpbs MP3)

The Headmaster Ritual (Phil Brown edit) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/q1t7a0) (7" > AIFF > 192kbps MP3)

Work Is a Four Letter Word (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rpj2xd) (7" > Apple Lossless > 192kbps MP3)

Not Right in the head, could you please repost:
Work Is a Four Letter Word (7" > Apple Lossless > 192kbps MP3)

Please?

Anybody else could repost this?