Have noticed on here lately a bit of love for the Manics (well, Richey era anyway) and also some members with Manic-inspired usernames. This has prompted me to to go back and enjoy the band that soundtracked my awkward teen phase. I truly love this band, even though they were on to 'This Is My Truth...' before I got into them. 'Generation Terrorists', 'The Holy Bible' and Simon Price's book 'Everyting' set me on the way to discovering The Clash, The Smiths, Public Enemy and practically everything else.

Feel free to share thought, memories, fave tracks or even post you revulsion if you hate the band!

I have had a 'Generation Terrorists' revivle recently, it is a fine album. I don't own 'The Holy Bible', but I am considering investing in it. I'm afraid they lost me after that, but I do love those two albums. And Richey...what can I say

i remember getting into them when gold against the soul came out and the manics appearing on 'top of the tops' with nicky in a dress.

like the smiths when i first heard them, i didn't like them (funny when both bands released their 1st lps) then they turned into my favourite bands.

the holy bible is still one of my favourite lps.

'faster' on 'top of the pops' with james in a Balaclava, many complaints to the BBC, because of the troubles with the IRA at the time.

saw them at glastonbury an amazing aggressive perfromance.

saw one of their last shows with richey at the astoria in london.

richey disappearance took awhile to sink in... until the "everything must go" then thinking he has gone :(

have never seen them as a three piece. didn't buy the last LP or james's solo lp.

but still one my favourites.

pcp is the shit!

I like them, still don't love em

There oreet :)

I'll go and get 'The Holy Bible', it's cheap enough to buy, and I'll let you all know what I think.

The Manics also soundtracked my "teen angst" days...Still love them to pieces, everything up until "Know Your Enemy", which was unbelievably shit :(

The Holy Bible is - along with the Smiths debut - my favourite album ever. Not a weak moment on it, and "She Is Suffering" is a truly great slice of mordant rock.

Does anyone have any good quality copies of some of the rare b-sides (Patrick Bateman; Never Want Again; Us Against You; Love Torn Us Under) they could post? Pleeeeease.

I have all of those, how do I get them to you?

If you could put them on Mega upload and post the link here, that would qualify your entry into Heaven :D

I would love Patrick Bateman if possible!

'The Holy Bible' is indeed a modern classic. I've got a feeling its their worst selling album too. IMHO a near lyrically perfect album and their most diverse sound-wise. 'Faster' is a fucking classic song, 'Yes' and '4st 7lb' sonme of the most powerful songs of modern times.

It can be picked up cheap in shops, go forth and buy

Patrick Bateman
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0FY376BG :)

Never Want Again
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2LR2YX6C

Nice to see a Manics thread on here :D

I really, really like them and The Holy Bible is magnificent... Now, though, they are just pathetic. I mean, they're musically better than ever, but they're fat, healthy, middle-aged rockstars and yet they still scream situationist slogans. They're the next Rolling Stones in terms of aging but failing to accept it.

Their politics worked far better when richey was articulating it and (somewhat in the spirit of Mirbeau) expressing it poetically through physical pain and mental illness. It's sounds so fucking cliché, I know, but he made people like me embrace music that can only be described as, erm, crap heavy metal. Let's just say they meant a lot to me for about a year and then I did the most horrible thing one can do in this world - grow up.

i was looking at the programme for the holy bible tour today, i knew i still had it.

also this t shirt which has written on the back:
I am hypocrite whore-stud slut cunt-cock artifical piece of 20th century motherfucking shit.

i remember asking the man behind the counter "have you one with the lest swearing on it, as my mum won't like it" i did this with my tongue in my cheek.. he was amused too!

LOL!!! I can remember running out to but the most offensive tsirt I could find to annoy my mum. It said 'Live hard, die young, leave a goodlooking corpse'

Patrick Bateman
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0FY376BG :)

Never Want Again
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2LR2YX6C

Nice to see a Manics thread on here :D

Thank you very much, you wonderful person, you :D

Us against you:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JJAGICPT


Love Torn Us Under (Acoustic Version):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MPQWM9NT


ENJOY!


And you as well....You're all too nice.

Aghhh...I hate to be a whinger, but the file of "Love Torn Us Under" seems to be corrupt...Have converted it from .m4u to .mp3 but there's nothing there :(

i was looking at the programme for the holy bible tour today, i knew i still had it.

also this t shirt which has written on the back:
I am hypocrite whore-stud slut cunt-cock artifical piece of 20th century motherfucking shit.

i remember asking the man behind the counter "have you one with the lest swearing on it, as my mum won't like it" i did this with my tongue in my cheek.. he was amused too!


saw a t-shirt a few years back with "who's responsible? you fucking are" on the front - really want that one :(

seen the manics live 6 times (and james solo twice) and they are incredable live. the best one was at cambridge corn exchange in 2005 - will never forget when james started archives of pain by himself on this beautiful white flying V guitar, palyed the first verve alone on stage and the lights went up to reveal sean back behind the drums and nicky standing on top of speaker stack ready to launch into the rest of the song. :D

saw a t-shirt a few years back with "who's responsible? you fucking are" on the front - really want that one :(

seen the manics live 6 times (and james solo twice) and they are incredable live. the best one was at cambridge corn exchange in 2005 - will never forget when james started archives of pain by himself on this beautiful white flying V guitar, palyed the first verve alone on stage and the lights went up to reveal sean back behind the drums and nicky standing on top of speaker stack ready to launch into the rest of the song. :D

I always fancied that t shirt but i read somewhere it was a special crew only one, and rather difficult to get hold of.
Archives of pain was great on the last tour. My favorite manics moment was during the Cardiff 2005 Lifeblood gig when Nicky snatched the mic off James, abandoned all pretence at playing the bass and bellowed out Motown Junk, then started hurling himself off the speaker stacks.
Heres a reupload of Love Torn Us Under. If anyone wants any more let me know, will do my best to oblige.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B0N5YU4M

Thanks for all of these...I'd forgotten just how awesome Patrick Bateman was! Could never understand for the life of me why they left it off Lipstick Traces in favour of shite like Valley Boy :(

If anyone has any good quality Manic bootlegs, please post! Soundboard ones would be best, but also any of the three forum gigs from Xmas 94 (last Richey gigs) would be great.

Anyhow, we can guess that most peoples favourite Manics album is either Generation or Holy Bible, but what are your top Manics tracks? I'll plump for She Is Suffering, Comfort Comes and Removables.

saw a t-shirt a few years back with "who's responsible? you fucking are" on the front - really want that one :(

seen the manics live 6 times (and james solo twice) and they are incredable live. the best one was at cambridge corn exchange in 2005 - will never forget when james started archives of pain by himself on this beautiful white flying V guitar, palyed the first verve alone on stage and the lights went up to reveal sean back behind the drums and nicky standing on top of speaker stack ready to launch into the rest of the song. :D

i remember that t shirt. i had this t shirt which disappeared!!!! it was the cover for "faster" single with the lyrics on the back. bought it at glastonbury.

manic rose, you make me want to see them again.

hey everybody is Life blood worth getting as i'm going through a manic phrase again because of this thread. went to the supermarket listening to the Holy BIble today.

i remember that t shirt. i had this t shirt which disappeared!!!! it was the cover for "faster" single with the lyrics on the back. bought it at glastonbury.

manic rose, you make me want to see them again.

hey everybody is Life blood worth getting as i'm going through a manic phrase again because of this thread. went to the supermarket listening to the Holy BIble today.

Lifeblood is a good album, but the band's direction has changed so much from THB you wouldnt necessarily know they were the same band if it werent fo JDB's voice. If you liked JDB's solo album, Lifeblood is a slightly less accomplished sibling IMHO.

manic rose, you make me want to see them again.




james said at cambridge that he would be back with nicky and sean in april/may next year :D :D *gets ready for manics stalking*

james said at cambridge that he would be back with nicky and sean in april/may next year :D :D *gets ready for manics stalking*

well hopefully i might go if it is possible. i remember nearly walking into james along the finchley rd (london) outside where i worked, it was a very sunny day and the light was in my eyes. i saw this chap walking towards me and with the sun shining in my eyes, i couldn't see but i was thinking "i know him" then he was using the bank machine, i then i realised it was james. ha i left the guy to it, it was cool though he was just a normal guy going out to the shops.

well hopefully i might go if it is possible. i remember nearly walking into james along the finchley rd (london) outside where i worked, it was a very sunny day and the light was in my eyes. i saw this chap walking towards me and with the sun shining in my eyes, i couldn't see but i was thinking "i know him" then he was using the bank machine, i then i realised it was james. ha i left the guy to it, it was cool though he was just a normal guy going out to the shops.

i probably have gone into hysterics and scared him :p

Lifeblood is a good album, but the band's direction has changed so much from THB you wouldnt necessarily know they were the same band if it werent fo JDB's voice. If you liked JDB's solo album, Lifeblood is a slightly less accomplished sibling IMHO.

I liked Lifeblood to begin with but its not the most essential of albums. It reminds me of 'Reveal' by R.E.M., in that it is perfectly listenable but there's not enough to keep you coming back.

Saying that, if I'd bumped into James at an ATM I'd probably be an embarrassing fan!:p

Fave Manics Tracks from albums:

Generation Terrorists:

Motorcycle Emptiness
You Love Us
Stay Beauatiful
Little Baby Nothing
Crucifix Kiss
Condemned To Rock & Roll

Gold Against The Soul:

Sleepflower
From Despair To Where....
La Tristessa Durera
Life Becoming A Landslide

The Holy Bible:

All of it!

Everything Must Go:

The Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky
Removeables
Everything Must Go
No Surface All Feeling

This Is My Truth....:

Ready For Drowning
Born A Girl
My Little Empire
If You Tolerate This.......

Know Your Enemy:

So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing
Ocean Spray

Lifeblood:

I Live To Fall Asleep
The Love of Richard Nixon
Solitude Sometimes Is

Love them. Saw them in Birmingham in 2004 and at the Isle of Wight festival 04 and they were just sensational. I actually really liked Lifeblood too.

fav tracks from each album

generation terrorists - you love us, motorcycle emptiness, little baby nothing
gold against the soul - la tristessa durera, roses in the hospital
the holy bible - archives of pain, faster, ifwhiteamerica..
everything must go - everything must go, a design for life, kevin carter
this is my truth - if you tolerate this.., tsunami, my little empire
know your enemy - found that soul, my guernica, ocean spray
lifebood - 1985, the love of richard nixon, i live to fall asleep

I'm Welsh. They're Welsh. I like it.

I'll go and get 'The Holy Bible', it's cheap enough to buy, and I'll let you all know what I think.


buy the rereleased version cause you also get the US mix that they they really wanted to show people and it has videos of them also

I really, really like them and The Holy Bible is magnificent... Now, though, they are just pathetic. I mean, they're musically better than ever, but they're fat, healthy, middle-aged rockstars and yet they still scream situationist slogans. They're the next Rolling Stones in terms of aging but failing to accept it.

Their politics worked far better when richey was articulating it and (somewhat in the spirit of Mirbeau) expressing it poetically through physical pain and mental illness. It's sounds so fucking cliché, I know, but he made people like me embrace music that can only be described as, erm, crap heavy metal. Let's just say they meant a lot to me for about a year and then I did the most horrible thing one can do in this world - grow up.

go buy "Know your enemy" and get back to me. "Masses against the classes" is fantastic!

go buy "Know your enemy" and get back to me. "Masses against the classes" is fantastic!

Er, but "Masses" isn't actually on "Know Your Enemy" :confused:

Still, sorry to be pedantic...I just thought "Know Your Enemy" was the point where it all went a bit wrong for The Manics. Admitedly, I am more of a fan of the Richey-era, but I still love "Everything Must Go" and "This Is My Truth"...It just seemed rather graceless when they tried going all "punk" again. In my mind, it just didn't work...The lyrics were clumsy and forced and the music was a re-hash of "Generation Terrorists".

I'm Welsh. They're Welsh. I like it.


lol, your easily pleased :p

Post your Manics pics here

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/8/8a/Manics94.jpg

I used to be a big Manics fan. I listened to all their albums over a couple of days last week, the first time I've listened to them in ages.

Some of the songs were as good as or as better than I remembered, but some are embarrasingly bad and I can't believe I liked them.

Generation Terrorists- some great tunes, some rubbish. 8/10
Gold Against the Soul- great first few tracks but the 2nd half is nonsense 6/10
the Holy Bible - used to be my favourite but a lot of it sounds melodramatic and unnecessary.some genius though 7/10
Everything Must Go- title track and a few others sound lumbering and bland.many of the songs on here sound as soaring and brilliant as ever 8/10
This is My Truth Tell Me Yours - not a huge fan at the time but it has its place when you're in the mood to listen 7/10
Know Your Enemy - didn't bother buying it at the time cos I was well over them by then. heard it loads though, and borrowed it last week - its shite 3/10

still a good band overall then- but not worth getting THAT excited about!

Post your Manics pics here



lol, don't encourage me! i have far too many stored on my pc :p

Generation Terrorists - Tennessee, Slash N' Burn, Crucifix Kiss, Stay Beautiful.
Gold Against Soul - From Despair To Where, Drug Drug Druggy, Yourself, Nostalgic Pushead.
The Holy Bible - IfWhiteAmerica..., Archives Of Pain, She Is Suffering

Haven't heard any more than those...anyone have a live version of the songs I've bolded, as they're my favourites and I've never had the pleasure of hearing the manics live. :(

Generation Terrorists - Tennessee, Slash N' Burn, Crucifix Kiss, Stay Beautiful.
Gold Against Soul - From Despair To Where, Drug Drug Druggy, Yourself, Nostalgic Pushead.
The Holy Bible - IfWhiteAmerica..., Archives Of Pain, She Is Suffering

Haven't heard any more than those...anyone have a live version of the songs I've bolded, as they're my favourites and I've never had the pleasure of hearing the manics live. :(
I deleted my Manics bootlegs today :D :mad:

They are brilliant live. James Dean Bradfield has one of the best voices around.

Oh well that's typically unlucky. Had to do a bit of bootleg deleting myself today, it's hard to let go lol.

I used to love The Manics, but i haven't listened to them for ages. Maybe now?

Oh well that's typically unlucky. Had to do a bit of bootleg deleting myself today, it's hard to let go lol.

i'm terrible for hoarding bootlegs - i can never delete one, even if it's really bad quality :(

http://http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1289/gggggg6kn.jpg

http://http://67.15.137.163/quiz2/5597/res3.jpg

Revol!!

I adore the manics, they were my first love and still have a special place in my heart. :) Has anyone else noticed the morrissey look-alike standing in the audience of the Motown Junk video?

wow bargains from soundofthenorth :D he he he cheap as...

2 singles pretty rare!!!
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8 cd singles plus bonus!!!
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In case my intro topic veers away from the discussion...

Any fans on here? I am a mega-fan, seen them twice and will be seeing them a third time at the Leeds festival. Obviously The Holy Bible is my favourite album but there is not one bad album they've put out. And don't listen to those who say Gold Against The Soul is terrible, it's one of their best!

In case my intro topic veers away from the discussion...

Any fans on here? I am a mega-fan, seen them twice and will be seeing them a third time at the Leeds festival. Obviously The Holy Bible is my favourite album but there is not one bad album they've put out. And don't listen to those who say Gold Against The Soul is terrible, it's one of their best!

Hmm... :rolleyes:

Edit: Oh, and yes GATS is (mostly) great stuff.

Hmm... :rolleyes:

Edit: Oh, and yes GATS is (mostly) great stuff.

Belive me, is a big fan, just hard to get to loadsa gigs!

Love PTxx.

You don't waste much time, do you...

And I agree, Gold Against The Soul ROCKS! Especially Roses in the Hospital. :guitar:

MwIHV0tkkx0

"We don't want your fucking love!"

Sleepflower and Life Becoming A Landslide are my two personal favourites.

Belive me, is a big fan, just hard to get to loadsa gigs!

Love PTxx.

Ah, I didn't realise he was a friend of yours. I presuming the same age(ish). In that case he has an excuse, although I would class as myself as a 'mega-fan' of Morrissey and I've seen him 43 times (i think) but I'm welll aware there's many others who have seen him much more often.

But it's much easier when you're old enough for the bank to let you have a huge overdraft and credit card debt!

Ah, I didn't realise he was a friend of yours. I presuming the same age(ish). In that case he has an excuse, although I would class as myself as a 'mega-fan' of Morrissey and I've seen him 43 times (i think) but I'm welll aware there's many others who have seen him much more often.

But it's much easier when you're old enough for the bank to let you have a huge overdraft and credit card debt!

FUCKING HELL - 43 TIMES :eek: That is dedication friend! Yeh, us youngesters find money a hard thing to come by. I have seen Moz 7 times and never once paid for a ticket haha.

Love PTxx.

Aye, 43 time since 2002, and being 17 I only managed one gig on that tour.

It's an expensive habit, young man.

Aye, 43 time since 2002, and being 17 I only managed one gig on that tour.

It's an expensive habit, young man.

Since 2002 ?!? I thought you would at least say 1991 or something, that must have cost a bomb!

Love PTxx.

I effing love the manics, since they put out the last album they've really been back on form live. I will have to disagree when you say all the albums are great, lifeblood is far less than great in my opinion, I kindof lost hope on them around that time. I lose count of how many times I've seen the manics maybe about 15 times + a few of the solo shows Nicky and James did. Pretty much consistently brilliant bar the aforementioned lifeblood dip :/
Gold against the Soul is an awesome album I love it the production is a little on the shiny side but they had to go through that to pull themselves round to making The Holy Bible how it turned out I think. :guitar:

I effing love the manics, since they put out the last album they've really been back on form live. I will have to disagree when you say all the albums are great, lifeblood is far less than great in my opinion, I kindof lost hope on them around that time. I lose count of how many times I've seen the manics maybe about 15 times + a few of the solo shows Nicky and James did. Pretty much consistently brilliant bar the aforementioned lifeblood dip :/
Gold against the Soul is an awesome album I love it the production is a little on the shiny side but they had to go through that to pull themselves round to making The Holy Bible how it turned out I think. :guitar:

Lifeblood is my least favourite ablum of theirs but it still has some cracking songs on it.

I rank my favourite Manics albums in this order:

The Holy Bible
Gold Against The Soul
Generation Terrorists
Everything Must Go
Send Away The Tigers
Know Your Enemy
This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours (Singles album to be honest)
Lifeblood

Apparently their ninth album is going to be The Holy Bible mk II. Interesting...

The Manics are the best band in existence, (in my opinion), been a fan since the first album. Wouldn't say GATS is one of their best, but still love it, my favourite on there is Life Becoming A Landslide, never heard them play that song live though, would love to but don't see it happening now. Send Away The Tigers is probably my favourite album of theirs, really looking forward to their next one, Nicky said he hopes to have it released by the end of the year.

any manic street preachers fans out there?

i'm looking for the b-side 'montana/autumn 78'

my 'if you tolerate this..' single is scratched to hell and i'd love to have this track. i can make it halfway through 'prologue to history' then it starts skipping... goddammit, heh

thanks

Funnily enough, I've been looking for some b-sides too, as well as the original 'Lipstick Traces' demo compilation. I PMd Revol but I don't know if he's been around lately. Have you tried the Forever Delayed forum?

didnt they have an early song that sounded like bowies sound and vision?
something about hospitals or roses or flowers or something , i would like to hear that again.

didnt they have an early song that sounded like bowies sound and vision?
something about hospitals or roses or flowers or something , i would like to hear that again.

'roses in the hospital' by any chance?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIHV0tkkx0

'roses in the hospital' by any chance?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MwIHV0tkkx0

any chance you could post it here for download? thanks.

any manic street preachers fans out there?

i'm looking for the b-side 'montana/autumn 78'

my 'if you tolerate this..' single is scratched to hell and i'd love to have this track. i can make it halfway through 'prologue to history' then it starts skipping... goddammit, heh

thanks

I knew there was a reason I kept my teenage Manics singles. Knew it.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XL5ZKFRN

Good God I feel 15 right now.

thanks, you're a star!

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It leaked today.....
http://sharebee.com/0fb3d982