What about the New York Dolls?

[Ian Edwards]

How many people here listen to the magnificent NY dolls? Morrissey said in his latest interview that when he first heard them he "fell to the floor" and today is "still there"-- expressing his love for them in no better way. Some of his quotes mimic David Johansen's such as the one on people just being sexual without having to be homo-,bi-,hetero-, etc. Plus he wrote a long essay on them that was published as a book. I love the NY dolls and guess what-- Moz introduced them to me.
David Johansen was an amazing songwriter. He wrote the song "Frankenstein" which was later, according to Moz, to inspire "November Spawned...". And Johansen wrote "Trash" which he covered on the Kill Uncle tour:

"Trash go pick it up
don't throw your love away
Trash go pick it up
don't take these nights away
and please don't ask me if I love you
cause you don't know what I'm doing
all you know is Trash..
please don't ask me if I love you
cause I don't know if I do"

take a listen to the song "Lonely Planet Boy":
'Its hard, its so hard
and its a lonely planet joy
when with all the other boys
you're a lonely planet boy
I'm crying, I'm dying for your love"

[laslow]

> How many people here listen to the magnificent NY dolls?

They were great, weren't they. I would have preferred that live version of "trash" to t-rex's "cosmic dancer" by the way. Sorry to say, but moz doesn't come close to the t-rex original, this coming from someone who thinks moz is a genius and t-rex just "interesting". Anyway, what did morrissey have to say about roxy music in that recent interview? I haven't had a chance to listen to it, has anyone out there? Thanks.

laz

[Jason]

To paraphrase, he said they (Roxy Music) became much less interesting after the first few albums (after which they drifted into "adult contemporary" territory). I'd have to agree, the first 3 ROXY albums are just amazing. And your right about T-Rex (whom I like,but less than Moz), their "Cosmic Dancer" is better, but I prefer Moz rendition of "Trash" over TNYD. Have you heard T-Rex' "Ride A White Swan", where the riff for "Certain People I Know" came from?

Any other groups aside from T-Rex and Moz (Arsenal-era) combine Rockabilly and Glam???????¿ They were great, weren't they. I would have preferred that live¿ version of "trash" to t-rex's "cosmic¿ dancer" by the way. Sorry to say, but moz doesn't come¿ close to the t-rex original, this coming from someone who thinks¿ moz is a genius and t-rex just "interesting". Anyway,¿ what did morrissey have to say about roxy music in that recent¿ interview? I haven't had a chance to listen to it, has anyone¿ out there? Thanks.¿ laz

[laslow]

> To paraphrase, he said they (Roxy Music) became much less¿ interesting after the first few albums (after which they drifted¿ into "adult contemporary" territory).

I definitely agree with that. It is safe to recommend the first 5 albums, and the "viva roxy music" live album. Don't know what happened after their 5th album, but they got pretty awful.¿T-Rex' "Ride A White Swan", where the riff for "Certain People I¿Know" came from?

yeah, that's a good little "boogie" as t-rex would say. I like "Certain people.." much better though.¿ Any other groups aside from T-Rex and Moz (Arsenal-era) combine¿ Rockabilly and Glam???????

As far as I know, no musicians aside from moz and t-rex were as fanatical about glam and rockabilly to go as far as combine the two styles. The 70's rock glamish band Mott the Hoople had some cuts that were a bit 50's/rockabilly-ish. The song 'roll away the stone' has a dialogue that goes something like:

singer: "there's a rockabilly party on saturday night, are you going to be there?"

woman: "i got my invite"

singer: "gonna bring your records?"

woman: "oh! will do"

singer: "alright!" (or something like that).

Hmmm....David Bowie did Chuck Berry's 'round and round' during the ziggy stardust sessions and it's a 70's take on a 50's classic. I can't think of much else at the moment...it's to early!

laz

[Lifeguard Sleeping]

The 70's rock glamish band Mott the Hoople had some¿ cuts that were a bit 50's/rockabilly-ish. The song 'roll away¿ the stone' has a dialogue that goes something like:¿ singer: "there's a rockabilly party on saturday night, are¿ you going to be there?"¿ woman: "i got my invite"¿ singer: "gonna bring your records?"¿ woman: "oh! will do"¿ singer: "alright!" (or something like that).

Gotta love Ian Hunter and Co. How 'bout that song, "All the Way From Memphis?" That was pretty stylish.

[Fabricio]

> I definitely agree with that. It is safe to recommend the first¿ 5 albums, and the "viva roxy music" live album. Don't¿ know what happened after their 5th album, but they got pretty¿ awful.

i don't agree. the first ones are their best, no doubt about it. but flesh+blood and avalon has some wonderful songs in it, as oh yeah, my only love, Same Old Scene,To Turn You On, avalon,While My Heart Is Still Beating ...

yes the style is completely different, but the talent...

have anyone heard about a possible roxy music's reunion?