No big deal...just wanted to say....

[Jon]

I was a moderator on this forum, and now I am not! I feel as though I have been judged by a group of medieval gossiping fishwives. I emailed MrT, he asked why I gave my password to Paul.(freeyourself) I found out My wife sent it to him to wind me/him up, (as if that is a big deal anyway). I had no response from him in the last week. Again, not a big deal really...I guess I have spent too much time here and she had a bit of fun at my expense.....hehehe.

But really all the moderator forum talked about was this obsessive fascination with freeyourself. I guess I am glad to be out of it. I will post the messages of the mod forum if anyone is interested (I guess they are not tho).

Love jon
XXX

[Wally the Baboon]

But really all the moderator forum talked about was this obsessive fascination with freeyourself. I guess I am glad to be out of it. I will post the messages of the mod forum if anyone is interested (I guess they are not tho).

Love jon
XXX
Any threads about Mr. Proper and horny young caribou? :confused: :o

[Codreanu]

But really all the moderator forum talked about was this obsessive fascination with freeyourself. I guess I am glad to be out of it. I will post the messages of the mod forum if anyone is interested (I guess they are not tho).

Love jon
XXX
Could make for interesting reading.

This board has been too long without Moz-Solo drama: gossipy antagonism and doctored pics. Have Ian and the Server troll eloped? :confused:

[davidt]

I was a moderator on this forum, and now I am not! I feel as though I have been judged by a group of medieval gossiping fishwives. I emailed MrT, he asked why I gave my password to Paul.(freeyourself) I found out My wife sent it to him to wind me/him up, (as if that is a big deal anyway). I had no response from him in the last week. Again, not a big deal really...I guess I have spent too much time here and she had a bit of fun at my expense.....hehehe.

But really all the moderator forum talked about was this obsessive fascination with freeyourself. I guess I am glad to be out of it. I will post the messages of the mod forum if anyone is interested (I guess they are not tho).

Love jon
XXX

Wow, you are showing great maturity there. The private moderator forum (why would you the posts saved?) is there so we don't have to post numerous emails to each other, but as stated, it is meant to be 'private'.

Sure, you can select quotes to make it look like there is an obsession with Paul, but there were other topics and so far he has been the only one to create multiple aliases on the forums and attacking people after being banned. So who is being obsessive?

By the way, I call BS on the 'my wife gave away my password, no big deal' story. You are obviously sympathetic to Paul for whatever reason and the password was sent because of this. Or will you now claim 'your wife' made the previous post to wind you up also?

[Jon]

Wow, you are showing great maturity there. The private moderator forum (why would you the posts saved?) is there so we don't have to post numerous emails to each other, but as stated, it is meant to be 'private'.

Sure, you can select quotes to make it look like there is an obsession with Paul, but there were other topics and so far he has been the only one to create multiple aliases on the forums and attacking people after being banned. So who is being obsessive?

By the way, I call BS on the 'my wife gave away my password, no big deal' story. You are obviously sympathetic to Paul for whatever reason and the password was sent because of this. Or will you now claim 'your wife' made the previous post to wind you up also?

Yes, I used to appreciate that the private forum should be kept private, but I am not a moderator now my guess is it dosen't really matter. I haven't saved any posts, I still have access to them. I won't select quotes to make it look like there is an obsession with Freeyourself, I don't need to, over 70% of the posts on the moderator forum were about him. I am certainly not being obsessive, just commenting, I rarely contributed to any of the "hunting down freeyourselfs posts", It was pathetic. I am neither symapathetic towards Freeyourself or Anti him. I was making a point about people having the right to say what they want to say on the world wide web. I found it hard to believe that you had a sort of policy exclusion surrounding him, ie other people were allowed to post personal information about him and it was left there, (such as serverNTLI's avatar). But when he reacted he was banned. You have no idea who started this do you? So to say he posted personal information about others before anyone else is BS, just as your ludicrous comments about him being the only one to use different aliases on this forum.

I disagreed with your policy about all this, (I have been visiting this site for 3 years) so I know who is who. My wife played a gag on me and gave away my password to freeyourself, If it was me who was really going to do that, I would have simply copy/pasted the forum into an email to him. I am fully aware that you can see an I.P log in your Vbulletin control/admin panel, and also that you can access private mesages by diggging into the PHP code within the database; so what you are saying does not make sense. (If you havent noticed FYS detests me, ask some of the other mods, he has sent pm's to them going on and on about me being offensive etc, I have no motivation to symapthise with him, infact the opposite after his personal threats to me over the years. Why the f@ck should I defend him? I made a point about rights of expression on the internet, and you have clearly mis-judged the situation and me. Strange you do not have the courtesy to even respond to my last polite email I sent to you, considering the positive contributions I have made on the bootleg forum of this website. Instead you just restrict my access as a moderator here and do not communicate with me, which demonstrates further your phobia/obsession based on inaccurate assumptions about Freeyourself.

[Uncleskinny]

Yes, I appreciate the private forum should be kept private, but I am not a moderator now my guess is it dosen't really matter. I haven't saved any posts, I still have access to them. I won't select quotes to make it look like there is an obsession with Freeyourself, I don't need to, over 70% of the posts on the moderator forum were about him. I am certainly not being obsessive, just commenting, I rarely contributed to any of the "hunting down freeyourselfs posts", It was pathetic. I am neither symapathetic towards Freeyourself or Anti him. I was making a point about people having the right to say what they want to say on the world wide web. I found it hard to believe that you had a sort of policy exclusion surrounding him, ie other people were allowed to post personal information about him and it was left there, (such as serverNTLI's avatar). But when he reacted he was banned. You have no idea who started this do you? So to say he posted personal information about others before anyone else is BS, just as your ludicrous comments about him being the only one to use different aliases on this forum.

I disagreed with your policy about all this, (I have been visiting this site for 3 years) so I know who is who. My wife played a gag on me and gave away my password to freeyourself, If it was me who was really going to do that, I would have simply copy/pasted the forum into an email to him. I am fully aware that you can see an I.P log in your Vbulletin control/admin panel, and also that you can access private mesages by diggging into the PHP code within the database; so what you are saying does not make sense. (If you havent noticed FYS detests me, ask some of the other mods, he has sent pm's to them going on and on about me being offensive etc, I have no motivation to symapthise with him, infact the opposite after his personal threats to me over the years. Why the f@ck should I defend him? I made a point about rights of expression on the internet, and you have clearly mis-judged the situation and me. Strange you do not have the courtesy to even respond to my last polite email I sent to you, considering the positive contributions I have made on the bootleg forum of this website. Instead you just restrict my access as a moderator here and do not communicate with me, which demonstrates further your phobia/obsession based on inaccurate assumptions about Freeyourself.

Ok this is the only time I will talk about this in a public forum. Jon - if that is you, because it could be someone else, since you gave your password away - you have been harangued into submission to give private posted details away - you cannot deny that - why should we believe you anymore? Your defence about sending the password is total rubbish - why would your wife send your password to someone she doesn't know? Unless she does know, in which case she's complicit. It doesn't stack up - whichever way you look at it, you've screwed up. The harassment of someone into submission in order to display a defence is a disgrace, because that is what has happened here. I will defend the right of every fan to discuss the music of Morrissey and The Smiths, but when threats are involved, then I'm sorry, I will try to help to stop that. I don't care what anybody thinks of me, so post away, I don't care.

Viva Moz.

Peter

[Jon]

Ok this is the only time I will talk about this in a public forum. Jon - if that is you, because it could be someone else, since you gave your password away - you have been harangued into submission to give private posted details away - you cannot deny that - why should we believe you anymore? Your defence about sending the password is total rubbish - why would your wife send your password to someone she doesn't know? Unless she does know, in which case she's complicit. It doesn't stack up - whichever way you look at it, you've screwed up. The harassment of someone into submission in order to display a defence is a disgrace, because that is what has happened here. I will defend the right of every fan to discuss the music of Morrissey and The Smiths, but when threats are involved, then I'm sorry, I will try to help to stop that. I don't care what anybody thinks of me, so post away, I don't care.

Viva Moz.

Peter

Whilst my comments were logical and unemotive, yours clearly are not, you seem to display a certain lack of understanding/non acknowledgment of the issues I raised. I commented on Davids comments point by point, you in turn did not, hence my "gossiping medieval fishwife" reference earlier in this thread. (Mainly directed at you I may add). You know the IP adddress that posted the original message on this topic, you can also cross reference that with all my original posts, so to say it could be someone else is nonsense. (unless it was my wife or dog posting this). I have not been harangued into submisson by anyone, I do not need to deny anything. I know no one on this forum in real life, nor does my wife, she knows I mention certain user names here and their antics, hence her decision to wind me up, to call this rubbish, is just pure pig-headedness on your part, and further adds to my points about your obsession/phobia about freeyourself. You mention that if my wife did know FYS she is implicit, this suggests she is associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime, by its very definition, what a f@ckin' joke! What is the crime exactly? please enlighten me. I have not screwed up in any shape, form or fashion, As I said earlier, if I was going to give away my password to FYS, I would not have done it via PM's on this site as I am aware that David has access to PMS via the PHP database for this site, and he can see log in IP's via the Vbulletin control panel.

You say:

"The harassment of someone into submission in order to display a defence is a disgrace, because that is what has happened here. "

This does not make any sense what so ever. Who has harassed who? Can you tell me for a fact? I think not. You yet again seem to miss my point, people have reasons for threatening people, (ie when personal information about that person is displayed in a malicious way in FYS case) You are mis-informed regarding the facts, you impose your own naive Kangaroo court judgments upon users here without even trying to understand the sophistication of manipulation via the internet.

Viva Moz?..... no comment sir....no comment.

[Uncleskinny]

Whilst my comments were logical and unemotive, yours clearly are not, you seem to display a certain lack of understanding/non acknowledgment of the issues I raised. I commented on Davids comments point by point, you in turn did not, hence my "gossiping medieval fishwife" reference earlier in this thread. (Mainly directed at you I may add). You know the IP adddress that posted the original message on this topic, you can also cross reference that with all my original posts, so to say it could be someone else is nonsense. (unless it was my wife or dog posting this). I have not been harangued into submisson by anyone, I do not need to deny anything. I know no one on this forum in real life, nor does my wife, she knows I mention certain user names here and their antics, hence her decision to wind me up, to call this rubbish, is just pure pig-headedness on your part, and further adds to my points about your obsession/phobia about freeyourself. I have not screwed up in any shape, form or fashion, As I said earlier, if I was going to give away my password to FYS, I would not have done it via PM's on this site as I am aware that David has access to PMS via the PHP database for this site, and he can see log in IP's via the Vbulletin control panel.

You say:

"The harassment of someone into submission in order to display a defence is a disgrace, because that is what has happened here. "

This does not make any sense what so ever. Who has harassed who? Can you tell me for a fact? I think not. You yet again seem to miss my point, people have reasons for threatening people, (ie when personal information about that person is displayed in a malicious way in FYS case) You are mis-informed regarding the facts, you impose your own naive Kangaroo court judgments upon users here without even trying to understand the sophistication of manipulation via the internet.

Viva Moz?..... no comment sir....no comment.


Ok Paul - are you actually going to say you are not posting as Jon now? Be careful what you say.

Peter

[Jon]

Ok Paul - are you actually going to say you are not posting as Jon now? Be careful what you say.

Peter

I am not Paul, I post from I.P BTcentralplus.com - 86.130.125.92 , that identifies me as not him, as you well know Peter by clicking on the screen icon next to my Jon user name. Your phobia/obsession knows no boundaries. I really do not need to be careful when replying to you.

[Server NTLI]

It is obvious that this northern call-centre type person is a complete checked shirted fuckwit, I would not even bother replying to him Jon, your articulations will be lost upon him as proven in his replies.

[Mada]

Someone wise once said to me: "When you're in a hole, stop digging."
Now's that time, Jon.

[Server NTLI]

Someone wise once said to me: "When you're in a hole, stop digging."
Now's that time, Jon.


Was that the guy that had an intimate moment with your mother 9 months before you sprogged up who said that? Call me old fashioned....... (my comments are almost as sad as your evasion of response to points raised here) I would love to dig you out of your own hole that you created by your comments, but it really is not worth the effort. Go to DIY.com , spades are cheap there.

[Mada]

I choose not to respond to the drivel here because it's pointless and a waste of my fingertips.
I'd rather spend 2 weeks with Maggie Thatcher, to be honest.
I too can edit posts. Try ServerNTLIsMomma.com, hoes are cheap there [harharhar, it's like being 13 again].

[Server NTLI]

I choose not to respond to the drivel here because it's pointless and a waste of my fingertips.
I'd rather spend 2 weeks with Maggie Thatcher, to be honest.

so why are you responding then?

[Mada]

I'm not responding to the drivel. I'm responding to other things. I didn't say it was all drivel... sillypants.

*ruffles your hair* Aren't you cute?

[zom]

I choose not to respond to the drivel here because it's pointless and a waste of my fingertips.
I'd rather spend 2 weeks with Maggie Thatcher, to be honest.
I too can edit posts. Try ServerNTLIsMomma.com, hoes are cheap there [harharhar, it's like being 13 again].

:D

zom

[Server NTLI]

I'm not responding to the drivel. I'm responding to other things. I didn't say it was all drivel... sillypants.

*ruffles your hair* Aren't you cute?

It's like talking to a child, you just don't make sense. Go to bed? You have dug your own hole afterall......

keep digging.

[Mitford]

This is all so very very interesting:rolleyes: , yes 'Paul Ferretyourself' is many different people on this site, one can only assume his I.S.P is (bulldog.dsl) like on the old forums.

Also he has been more naive than many people would have thought him to be.

The little man thinks he has an internet powerbase/fanbase and control of this website, which is all fantasy of course, but who knows next he'll be trying to start a war in Manchester, i find his character most amusing as his nazi views dont really fit with his personal preferences, and the amusing thing is he's not really in a position to boast anymore either, mark my words....

freeyourself is history.

[Math Tinder]

I could not begin to understand all the ins and outs of whatever happened in the mod forum, but I will say one thing,

PLEASE don't bring discussion of Freeyourself/Freeyourse1f/etc onto the main board. Talk about it in the mod forum, or via email or PM, all you want. But, his departure, in my opinion, is the best thing that's happened since the board made the transition to vBulletin. I'm SO grateful that I don't have to wade through all that crap anymore.

Just my opinion, but a strong one. :)

Carry on.


much love
math+

[Helen Bach]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah take this shit somewhere else!

[Jon]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah take this shit somewhere else!

Totally agree! I guess the subject matter of this thread is the norm in the moderator forum. Now you know what I had to put up with day in day out! Thank god that forum is private to those people, so the misguided garbage that is posted there cannot be read by others. It's quite ironic that the mod forum is now the new dumping ground of this site, where the virtual garbage disposal men who contribute to it; talk about, dispose of, and indulge themselves in wallowing around in virtual rubbish 24/7.

[Mada]

Haha, yeah right Jon. This is your thread. You're the one who supports freeyourself. They're telling *you* to shut up, not the MODs. The MODs are the ones who're kicking people like freeyourself off the forums... doing the good work, unlike you who's aiding and abetting him.

Don't try to put spin on this and convince yourself that you have public support.

[Jon]

Haha, yeah right Jon. This is your thread. You're the one who supports freeyourself. They're telling *you* to shut up, not the MODs. The MODs are the ones who're kicking people like freeyourself off the forums... doing the good work, unlike you who's aiding and abetting him.

Don't try to put spin on this and convince yourself that you have public support.

Please try actually reading my points before responding. I have said I am neither for or against this guy, or did you not read that? Who is telling who to shut up? What are you talking about? You have not taken on board/absorbed any of the points I raised, I really do not see any good work on the moderator forum (and still don't) it's just obsession and phobia about one topic, with hugely misguided and incorrect assumptions & facts about who is to blame for certain things around here) It is almost like "freeyourself" has become a keyword for all things evil around here, and anyone mentioning him becomes part of the crime imagined in your own head. You are becoming somewhat of a joke over this subject, a parody. I am not aiding and abetting anyone, your judgemental terminology is laughable, like I am in court or something over this, (similar to peters line about my wife being complicit to the crime or whatever bollox it was that he came out with. I am not trying to convince myself that I have public support, I merely commented upons someones post.

With respect, I know you are quite young, and this really does reflect itself in the lack of any form of intellectual understanding and misjudgements you show in relation to other peoples viewpoints. If I were you I would give this up, and keep it on the moderator forum amongst the other dozens of posts on the same issue. My advice to you? Quit whilst you can in this thread.

[Uncleskinny]

Please try actually reading my points before responding. I have said I am neither for or against this guy, or did you not read that? Who is telling who to shut up? What are you talking about? You have not taken on board/absorbed any of the points I raised, I really do not see any good work on the moderator forum (and still don't) it's just obsession and phobia about one topic, with hugely misguided and incorrect assumptions & facts about who is to blame for certain things around here) I am not aiding and abetting anyone, your judgemental terminology is laughable, like I am in court or something over this, (similar to peters line about my wife being complicit to the crime or whatever bollox it was that he came out with. I am not trying to convince myself that I have public support, I merely commented upons someones post.

With respect, I know you are quite young, and this really does reflect itself in the lack of any form of intellectual understanding you show in relation to other peoples viewpoints. If I were you I would give this up, and keep it on the moderator forum amongst the other dozens of posts on the same issue. My advice to you? Quit whilst you can in this thread.


Actually Jon, what I said was this ..."Your defence about sending the password is total rubbish - why would your wife send your password to someone she doesn't know? Unless she does know, in which case she's complicit". And you might as well give up that whole "my wife did it" line now because we've seen the messages you sent to Paul, and those he sent back to you, so we know you're lying. Give it up.

Peter

[Mada]

I was just writing a reply to your post, Jon, but I realised that you're just a mindless moron who's apparently set on destroying everyone's experience here - just like your partner-in-crime Freeyourself.

How about you and your friend free us from yourselves and bugger off to some other forum.

[Jon]

I was just writing a reply to your post, Jon, but I realised that you're just a mindless moron who's apparently set on destroying everyone's experience here - just like your partner-in-crime Freeyourself.

How about you and your friend free us from yourselves and bugger off to some other forum.

What have I done to destroy peoples experience here? Infact I have actively contributed in a positive fashion to this forum, by updating and contributing downloads etc. I have always posted in a manner that is polite and thoughtful to others. Yest again you are wrong about freeyourself being my friend, infact I have received many threatening messages from him over the years. This further demonstrates you obsession/phobia about this topic.

Many thanks for calling me a moron, and yet again failing to reply to any salient points I have raised. You have affirmed my original points about you. As I said, perhaps give up to replying to me on this thread.

[Uncleskinny]

What have I done to destroy peoples experience here? Infact I have actively contributed in a positive fashion to this forum, by updating and contributing downloads etc. I have always posted in a manner that is polite and thoughtful to others. Yest again you are wrong about freeyourself being my friend, infact I have received many threatening messages from him over the years. This further demonstrates you obsession/phobia about this topic.

Many thanks for calling me a moron, and yet again failing to reply to any salient points I have raised. You have affirmed my original points about you. As I said, perhaps give up to replying to me on this thread.


You're missing the point Jon, one which you have clearly, and from your point, understandably failed to address - you lied about how your password went astray, so why would anyone believe you about anything else? If you want proof about how you lied, I'll give you proof. I'm afraid you are discredited here. There are some working for the good, and there are others...

Peter

[Jon]

Actually Jon, what I said was this ..."Your defence about sending the password is total rubbish - why would your wife send your password to someone she doesn't know? Unless she does know, in which case she's complicit". And you might as well give up that whole "my wife did it" line now because we've seen the messages you sent to Paul, and those he sent back to you, so we know you're lying. Give it up.

Peter

Yes you did, and I commented to this in my previous point to you that to say someone is complicit by its very definition means "Associated with or participating in a questionable act or a crime" and I seem to remeber saying something like "What the f@ck is the crime?"

You have not seen all the messages I have sent to Paul, you have seen messages that have been sent via my user name. You do not know I am lying, I am not. Has my presence on this site not been one of contributing in a positive manner?

I think you should actually give up this thing you seem to have, not me, again, take the advice I give to Mada, just quit replying to me, or perhaps you will just end up doing what he does by resorting to calling me a moron because you know you do not really have a case.

I have just read you subsequent post about wanting proof from you, yes please do show me proof.

[Mada]

I didn't claim you were friends with him, I said you were partners in crime.
You helped him by giving him your password to your moderator account, and therefore access to the moderator forums. This was detrimental to the whole community, as there is always 'private' material in private forums.

I'm not posting in reply to your individual comments because frankly it isn't worth my time.
Freeyourself is a 'bad guy' around here, because my experience with him has been nothing but negative. He trolls and spams and generally incites bad feelings. Those aren't 'crimes' I've imagined, he actually does that.

I'm far less 'obsessed with this topic' than you are, as demonstrated by the length of my replies when compared with yours.
This is a very tried and stale topic. If you want to PM me with direct points you want answered, or comments you want replies to... feel free. But I feel that it'd be better for everyone if this was the last post on this topic. It's getting a little boring.

[Jon]

I didn't claim you were friends with him, I said you were partners in crime.
You helped him by giving him your password to your moderator account, and therefore access to the moderator forums. This was detrimental to the whole community, as there is always 'private' material in private forums.

I'm not posting in reply to your individual comments because frankly it isn't worth my time.
Freeyourself is a 'bad guy' around here, because my experience with him has been nothing but negative. He trolls and spams and generally incites bad feelings. Those aren't 'crimes' I've imagined, he actually does that.

I'm far less 'obsessed with this topic' than you are, as demonstrated by the length of my replies when compared with yours.
This is a very tried and stale topic. If you want to PM me with direct points you want answered, or comments you want replies to... feel free. But I feel that it'd be better for everyone if this was the last post on this topic. It's getting a little boring.

The length of my replies relates to the fact that I am being acused of something I have not done, the fact you call me a moron also does not help your case. I am sorely tempted to join in your game of resorting to name calling , but I would never dream of resorting to the lame tactics that you do. Is it your experience with freeyourself (the name?) or the person? or the 1000's of posts pretending to be him, or his posts, or fake posts, or real posts? You just do not know do you? which makes your points defunct.

[Uncleskinny]

The length of my replies relates to the fact that I am being acused of something I have not done, the fact you call me a moron also does not help your case. I am sorely tempted to join in your game of resorting to name calling , but I would never dream of resorting to the lame tactics that you do. Is it your experience with freeyourself (the name?) or the person? or the 1000's of posts pretending to be him, or his posts, or fake posts, or real posts? You just do not know do you? which makes your points defunct.

Total bullshit Jon. I have just PM'd you with the first bit of evidence. Not in a public forum. If you want to continue this discussion, reply to the message I sent you.

Peter

[ANGELES!]

Why locked? I saw a post on this topic forum that now is locked. I would love to fuck the man who locked this conversation as he obviously needs good fucking. He talk many shits. Also who fucks what this asshole jon think, he just needs good fucking also.

Perhaps you two should fuck together and fuck off from here? just a thinking of mine.