Robert Evans - The Comeback Kid
November 18, 2002, 05:03 AM
I remember very funny comedy of Michael Moore "Canadian Bacon" about USA going to war with... Canada to deflect attention from Bush Jr. recession. Of course, he meant Bush Sr. war with Iraq at 1992.
History repeats itself... Except Bush Sr. war with Iraq had certain sense: after all, Saddam foolishly ate up independent state of Kuweit (or Quweit or Kyweit), whatever is the right spelling... Now, tell me, what Saddam had done lately to deserve this war, which was so terrible? Did he terrorized Palestinians together with Israeli Army, did he financed Bin Laden together with Saudis, did he created energy crisis in California together with Ken Lay - Enron's chairman and Fastow, chief financial officer, did he supported Chechen terrorists (who took Russians hostages at Moscow at music-hall) together with those same Saudis? (Answer to all 4 questions: he didn't).
Saddam Hussein is an Stalin-loving despotic asshole. So is Kim Chen Ir, infamous Kim Ir Sen son (I hope my memory is serving me well here, maybe not? :-) ) of Northern Korea, Kibila of Congo plus dozen of third world dictators, small or medium-sized? Do you want to take upon them all, one by one?
As of Kurds independence, I wonder what will happen if California or Delawere states would declare themselves independent from USA? I bet US will send some psychiatrists to cure those assemblymen plus some symbolic federal troops from Washington DC to restore law and order. I'm not sure about Kurds, their aspirations must be respected, but so an Iraqi territorial integrity... Definitely, America would be foolish to impose Kurdish nation state upon region against wishes of at least 4 countries with sizable Kurdish minority: Syria, Iran, Iraq and yes, pro-Western enlightened NATO member TURKEY! There are some problems, which Arabs must solve alone... America would not like Mexicans to give us recommendation about new independent state called East LA! Spain would not like Americans pressuring her to give Basque peoples at Catalonia an independence from Madrid. Even if Basques may deserve it. (BTW, I tend to side with Basques on this one.) Those questions usually are not black and white. Let's respect other countries sovereignity, even if they are Arabic. (Irony)
You could ask (I preempt your potential question) "But what about Israeli sovereignity"?
My answer, straightforward, without unnecessary diplomatic smokescreen: Israel sovereignity ought be questioned, 'cause this country was established upon fundament of unjustice to local Palestinian population. Unlike historical Arab states, Israel had not earned yet by its conduct for the last 50 years to be a part of UN.
That's my opinion, as an American I would recognize Israel right to exist in view of current political situation, however reluctantly, but as an American taxpayer, I resent my taxes going to kill Palestinians and to provide European-style luxury for Israelis, while some peoples at home are semi-starving on foodtamps and welfare. If I be an American president, my economic and military help to BOTH Israel and Russia would be big fat Zero.
Yet I would maintain my help to Egypt, a third world country.
I would also help to countries like Salvador, Uganda and Somalis who are starving and really need all help they can get, unlike Israel.
Sorry, Loaf, let's talk honest man to man: you are using Kurds as a stick to beat Arabs with this oh so cleverly invented stick of yours over the head... Your tactics is to put Kurd against Palestinian. But let me tell you: Kurds are Muslim peoples (for better or worse) and in Israeli-Palestinian conflict their sympathies are of course on Palestinian side... So if it is a new tactics of Israel: to support and arm Kurds against Syria, Iran and Iraq, this is just another instance of Tel Aviv political adventurism... Or was your desire to be the Father of all Kurds your own homegrown idea, not something your local AIPAC peoples put in your head? Just curious...
P.S. NOW I PROMISE NO MORE POLITICAL MESSAGES AT MUSICAL BOARD, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE OAF A DECENT POLEMICS!
History repeats itself... Except Bush Sr. war with Iraq had certain sense: after all, Saddam foolishly ate up independent state of Kuweit (or Quweit or Kyweit), whatever is the right spelling... Now, tell me, what Saddam had done lately to deserve this war, which was so terrible? Did he terrorized Palestinians together with Israeli Army, did he financed Bin Laden together with Saudis, did he created energy crisis in California together with Ken Lay - Enron's chairman and Fastow, chief financial officer, did he supported Chechen terrorists (who took Russians hostages at Moscow at music-hall) together with those same Saudis? (Answer to all 4 questions: he didn't).
Saddam Hussein is an Stalin-loving despotic asshole. So is Kim Chen Ir, infamous Kim Ir Sen son (I hope my memory is serving me well here, maybe not? :-) ) of Northern Korea, Kibila of Congo plus dozen of third world dictators, small or medium-sized? Do you want to take upon them all, one by one?
As of Kurds independence, I wonder what will happen if California or Delawere states would declare themselves independent from USA? I bet US will send some psychiatrists to cure those assemblymen plus some symbolic federal troops from Washington DC to restore law and order. I'm not sure about Kurds, their aspirations must be respected, but so an Iraqi territorial integrity... Definitely, America would be foolish to impose Kurdish nation state upon region against wishes of at least 4 countries with sizable Kurdish minority: Syria, Iran, Iraq and yes, pro-Western enlightened NATO member TURKEY! There are some problems, which Arabs must solve alone... America would not like Mexicans to give us recommendation about new independent state called East LA! Spain would not like Americans pressuring her to give Basque peoples at Catalonia an independence from Madrid. Even if Basques may deserve it. (BTW, I tend to side with Basques on this one.) Those questions usually are not black and white. Let's respect other countries sovereignity, even if they are Arabic. (Irony)
You could ask (I preempt your potential question) "But what about Israeli sovereignity"?
My answer, straightforward, without unnecessary diplomatic smokescreen: Israel sovereignity ought be questioned, 'cause this country was established upon fundament of unjustice to local Palestinian population. Unlike historical Arab states, Israel had not earned yet by its conduct for the last 50 years to be a part of UN.
That's my opinion, as an American I would recognize Israel right to exist in view of current political situation, however reluctantly, but as an American taxpayer, I resent my taxes going to kill Palestinians and to provide European-style luxury for Israelis, while some peoples at home are semi-starving on foodtamps and welfare. If I be an American president, my economic and military help to BOTH Israel and Russia would be big fat Zero.
Yet I would maintain my help to Egypt, a third world country.
I would also help to countries like Salvador, Uganda and Somalis who are starving and really need all help they can get, unlike Israel.
Sorry, Loaf, let's talk honest man to man: you are using Kurds as a stick to beat Arabs with this oh so cleverly invented stick of yours over the head... Your tactics is to put Kurd against Palestinian. But let me tell you: Kurds are Muslim peoples (for better or worse) and in Israeli-Palestinian conflict their sympathies are of course on Palestinian side... So if it is a new tactics of Israel: to support and arm Kurds against Syria, Iran and Iraq, this is just another instance of Tel Aviv political adventurism... Or was your desire to be the Father of all Kurds your own homegrown idea, not something your local AIPAC peoples put in your head? Just curious...
P.S. NOW I PROMISE NO MORE POLITICAL MESSAGES AT MUSICAL BOARD, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE OAF A DECENT POLEMICS!