This visa business is crap. I looked up visasonline.com and it takes 30-60 days to receive these visas(giving them ample time to apply, when the tour was announced in April) and they can be renewed every 5 years, which means they were probably renewed in 1999. Also, Boz has been doing shows all month so are we to believe he hasn't been paid.

> This visa business is crap. I looked up visasonline.com and it takes 30-60
> days to receive these visas(giving them ample time to apply, when the tour
> was announced in April) and they can be renewed every 5 years, which means
> they were probably renewed in 1999. Also, Boz has been doing shows all
> month so are we to believe he hasn't been paid.

Morrissey has been known to hire his road crew from England. The visa problems is more likely for them, not the band.

> Morrissey has been known to hire his road crew from England. The visa
> problems is more likely for them, not the band.
Not likely because P-1 Visa's are good for 5 years and can be renewed twice with no delay so unless he hired them in 1987 there should be no problem and the CURRENT POST Sept 11 wait for these visa's is 30 to 60 days.

1. P-1's are not always good for five years. I had one that was good for less than 12 months.
2. Isn't Dean Butterworth from the U.K.? He hasn't toured with Moz before so would need a new visa.
3. It has been rumoured that his tour manager quit recently, so if his replacement was British he will have needed to get a visa at the last minute.

> Not likely because P-1 Visa's are good for 5 years and can be renewed
> twice with no delay so unless he hired them in 1987 there should be no
> problem and the CURRENT POST Sept 11 wait for these visa's is 30 to 60
> days.

> Not likely because P-1 Visa's are good for 5 years and can be renewed
> twice with no delay so unless he hired them in 1987 there should be no
> problem and the CURRENT POST Sept 11 wait for these visa's is 30 to 60
> days.

That would be providing the crew are the exact same people he's worked with before. It could be via an agency and you get what crew is available at that time and it would by likely to change as crew come and go, get different jobs or are off doing other gigs.

I personally do not think Boz is lying.

They didn't cancel the tour. They cancelled a couple dates and moved a bunch of them around. Perhaps these Visa problems are the reason the Canadian dates have been canceled. I know they didn't cancel Vancouver due to poor ticket sales since the venue was sold out. Its plausible that while the US Visa problems can be resolved in time that the Canadian situation cannot.

The word earlier was they were going to rehearse about a week before the concerts started so I don't think there is any problem with the band or the songs or anything like that. To further the speculation that this is the rehearsal time frame, Boz writes that he bought records to check out "new-boy drummer" suggesting that perhaps, he has never heard him play.

If you want to believe that this is all a great big lie and there is some rotten truth going on and they are hiding then you can. Currently, I think my interpretation of what Boz said and how it could be true is far more likely than your claim "This is crap" for which you have no basis for and the few points you have made as suppositions are easily countered by my rather realistic suppositions.

If you come up with something more believable please post it. All you are posting is facts about things that may or may not be related directly to the, as of right now, unnamed people who according Boz have Visa problems.

> 1. P-1's are not always good for five years. I had one that was good for
> less than 12 months.
> 2. Isn't Dean Butterworth from the U.K.? He hasn't toured with Moz before
> so would need a new visa.
> 3. It has been rumoured that his tour manager quit recently, so if his
> replacement was British he will have needed to get a visa at the last
> minute.

Ahh.. the air suddenly became a bit clearer in here.
Thank you for your insight.
All excellent points which support my lenghty response.

Don't you have to get the work visas before entering the country? If the band is already here than they should already have their visas.

If the hold up is getting a visa for a replacement British tour manager, that's dumb. Why not just hire someone with US citizenship as the tour manager? End of problem. Of course, Morrissey only likes to hire white, British males, so that could be a problem for him....

Finally, isn't there a premier processing fee that you can pay for $1000 a pop for a 3 week turn around on these work visa apps? Of is that just available for Canadiana citizens?