View Full Version : HEY EVEN


JW
July 26, 2002, 09:10 AM
To sum it up without all your bla bla bla bullshit..
FUCK OFF, and FUCK Morrissey!!! you fucking prick

iod
July 26, 2002, 04:32 PM
> To sum it up without all your bla bla bla bullshit..
> FUCK OFF, and FUCK Morrissey!!! you fucking prick

Ok, if you are that pissed at Morrissey, why are you
still posting here? You should sell all your records
and other Mozzer/Smiths stuff and go visit the board
of a band you like and respect. You will be much more
emotionally stable which will not only benefit you,
it will benefit us.

Thanks you, drive through.

The Last White Fan
July 26, 2002, 06:42 PM
Because Morrissey is too use to having yes men around him and people who kiss his ass all the time and tell him how great he is. Morrissey needs a splash of cold water on his face and a little cold hard truth about how is most loyal and devoted fans feel.

LWF

> Ok, if you are that pissed at Morrissey, why are you
> still posting here? You should sell all your records
> and other Mozzer/Smiths stuff and go visit the board
> of a band you like and respect. You will be much more
> emotionally stable which will not only benefit you,
> it will benefit us.

> Thanks you, drive through.

3/4 Of A Person
July 26, 2002, 09:32 PM
"Loyal and most devoted"???!!

That's quite funny.

Because you paid money to go to a concert of a musician whom you're a fan of, you think that he personally owes you something.

I'm beginning to sound like a parrot now:

Morrissey does not owe you anything.

If you were as loyal and devoted as you say you are, you'd be trying to defend him against the unfair and hurtful abuse and mud-slinging which (not only in the past few days) but constantly goes on on this message board.

Leave him alone, please.

Nobody
July 26, 2002, 10:52 PM
In our consumerist culture, if we pay for something, we expect to get something in return. I've spent money on tapes, CDs, videos, t-shirts, concert tickets, DVDs, and concert merchandise, among other things related to Morrissey. And Morrissey earns his LIVING from the money we PAY him. Forgetting this will be a tragic mistake for him. He owes his fame and money to US. Without our money, he would still be a hospital porter, or a librarian assistant, or most likely an unemployed music critic. So when he cancels concerts for seemingly no good reason, or a reason that seems so silly and unbelievable, however true it may be, he should really think about the effects it will have on us, if for nothing else then for the repercussions that it will have on his own career.

Not only that, but a fair number of the tickets to his shows are probably sold to people outside of the immediate area, given his fans' willingness to travel. If we all went only to the shows near our home cities, then perhaps less ticket SALES would result and that would mean less money to Morrissey. So keeping in mind our likely travel plans would behoove him in keeping us, his customers, happy. You see, we go to Morrissey concerts because we love him; he gives concerts to get our MONEY.

And just like in sales, if the customers aren't happy, they will take their money elsewhere. This is evidenced by the numbers of people posting on this board willing to sell off their merchandise and swearing never to go to another of his concerts. Morrissey--I hope you've made good investments with the money you've earned in the past. Otherwise, I'll see you in the unemployment line.

> "Loyal and most devoted"???!!

> That's quite funny.

> Because you paid money to go to a concert of a musician whom you're a fan
> of, you think that he personally owes you something.

> I'm beginning to sound like a parrot now:

> Morrissey does not owe you anything.

> If you were as loyal and devoted as you say you are, you'd be trying to
> defend him against the unfair and hurtful abuse and mud-slinging which
> (not only in the past few days) but constantly goes on on this message
> board.

> Leave him alone, please.

suzanne
July 26, 2002, 11:43 PM
he owes his fame to the fact that he has talent. He didn't appear on American Idol dressed up as some Backstreet Boys wannabe singing some regurgitated version of the Star Spangled Banner and was allowed to procede onward because he was decent looking and he fit into some easy to fall in slot that the populace in general is perceived to approve of like A.J. was.

No, you heard him somewhere and liked it enough to go out and buy his records over everyone elses. The fact that anyone made massive travel arrangements to go see him is due to the fact that they liked him enough and they believed luck would be on their side to not bother taking any precautions in case something should happen.

All he did was announce the dates. He asked nobody to travel. He asked nobody to sit around and think about him all day or to sacrifice money if they are in bad financial condition. If you can earn the money to travel, obviously, you are a capable adult with the ability to realize what your financial situation is and how much you would miss that money.

Anyone's decision to go ahead and jump on them simply because they were impatient enough to see if maybe he would play near their town (although, i'll be the first to admit that it looks to me like those american dates are basically it unless he comes back from Europe and does more, so i suppose i shouldn't fault too many people for that), or wait to see if he would be playing a city they might actually want to travel to on their own accord is their own fault.

I think its childish to say its all because he's a greedy bastard when the evidence is to the contrary in this case. What exactly has he gained by rescheduling the exact same towns? He could have said, "forget it" and gone on with the tour as was scheduled from that point onward.

And i generally think that those massively affected by the rescheduling are but a handful. Nobody outside of this website really knows about the tour because there hasn't been much publicity for the tour in general. It hasn't been reported anywhere else, and i think that most that are going are locals or people who are only a few hours away in driving distance who read about it in the local listings. It may look like many who are dealing with airline reservations, but it looks to me like the same couple of people posting their exact same complaint 20 times topped off with the same whiners who say "he needs to retire! he owes us!" any chance they get.

POOPER
July 27, 2002, 05:08 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
leave him alone???

how have have any of us bothered morrissey?
this is a discussion board for morrissey fans
we can say whatever we want to eachother

how have I ever bothered morrissey

you are lame!
and its really lame to post under 2 names

go back to sticking your nose up morrisseys ass, ms wendy wu, 3/4 even or whatever you want to call yourself this week

you are very boring!

POOP ON YOU

> "Loyal and most devoted"???!!

> That's quite funny.

> Because you paid money to go to a concert of a musician whom you're a fan
> of, you think that he personally owes you something.

> I'm beginning to sound like a parrot now:

> Morrissey does not owe you anything.

> If you were as loyal and devoted as you say you are, you'd be trying to
> defend him against the unfair and hurtful abuse and mud-slinging which
> (not only in the past few days) but constantly goes on on this message
> board.

> Leave him alone, please.

3/4 Of A Person
July 27, 2002, 09:36 PM
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN
> leave him alone???

> how have have any of us bothered morrissey?
> this is a discussion board for morrissey fans
> we can say whatever we want to eachother

> how have I ever bothered morrissey

> you are lame!
> and its really lame to post under 2 names

> go back to sticking your nose up morrisseys ass, ms wendy wu, 3/4 even or
> whatever you want to call yourself this week

> you are very boring!

> POOP ON YOU

Suzanne has got it spot on. Thank you, Suzanne. It's good to see that there are still some genuine fans here.

It's quite funny that just because I'm willing to defend Morrissey, I'm accused of being connected to him in some way, an employee, or a personal friend. I am neither of these. I've said it before, I'm merely a fan (from Dublin, if that adds any authenticity to my claims of not being tied to him) who thinks that my idol, no matter what his faults are, does not deserve to be treated in such a hurtful, malicious way. Don't you think that what you say about him is hurtful? How would you feel? He deserves more respect than that.

When I say "Leave Him Alone", I mean leave the childish insults out. Grow up. I really expected more of Morrissey fans than this. And no, I don't post under two names, these past few days are the first time I've posted here, though I've been reading this board for a while.

And finally, in response to "Nobody"'s post- Morrissey could tour in Europe alone and earn a living from doing that. He doesn't even HAVE to tour any more. He's wealthy enough. So don't insinuate "greed" as a reason for this. You all moan and whinge that he hasn't released an album in five years, that he hasn't toured in years, and when he finally DOES announce a tour, and happens to reschedule a few of the dates due to circumstances beyond his control, you all attack him and moan and whinge some more. There's just no pleasing, is there?

And no, he doesn't owe you anything. Does he force you to go into a record store, hold a gun to your head and threaten to shoot if you don't buy one of his CDs? Obviously, no. You buy things of your own free will. I presume that you are a responsible adult who chooses wisely how to spend your money, and you chose to spend it on him. End of story.

POOPER
July 28, 2002, 01:57 AM

Ali Hewson
July 29, 2002, 03:15 PM
> And finally, in response to "Nobody"'s post- Morrissey could
> tour in Europe alone and earn a living from doing that. He doesn't even
> HAVE to tour any more. He's wealthy enough. So don't insinuate
> "greed" as a reason for this.

If he's not greedy, why didn't he pay Joyce and Rourke (and Street and his accountants and everyone else he's not paid...)?

3/4 Of A Person
July 29, 2002, 11:26 PM
> If he's not greedy, why didn't he pay Joyce and Rourke (and Street and his
> accountants and everyone else he's not paid...)?

Oh, don't bring up this tired old argument! It's been talked to death as it is.

Jersey Devil
July 29, 2002, 11:34 PM
> Oh, don't bring up this tired old argument! It's been talked to death as
> it is.
If I were Moz's attorney I would have submitted the "Heaven Knows Im Miserable" Video with Morrissey dancing around with the bush in his back pocket and would have sued for 100% of the profits.