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thats why July 25, 2002, 05:53 AM Is anyone really surprised? If you are, I'll warn you from the get-go: learn to accept (and perhaps expect) this kind of behaviour.
Welcome to the world of Morrissey.
I'd suggest giving him the benefit of the doubt for the next couple days. Until some solid info comes up, he's presumed innocent, and even if he never issues a formal statement telling us why he had to cancel, I don't think he did it because he had some diva fit; something serious (I'd guess on the operational and/or financial level) got in the way. BTW, to avoid even more heartbreaking, I'd also suggest we all learn to deal with his episodes of enigmatic silence and utter unresponsiveness at once. Morrissey simply functions on a different wavelength from the rest of mankind and it would be pointless to pretend otherwise.
The main issue was and is the same: Morrissey has to get himself together as a music professional. He needs an iron fist manager, he needs a good agent, he has to stop attending those stupid noisy gigs like some kind of brainless teenager and he has to somehow challenge himself. All he does since Maladjusted is to reheat stuff. He has to set deadlines. Goals. All that stuff you americans excel at. Now glitzy, superficial LA may not be quite the right place to do that. Perhaps he'd be better off in a remote log cabin somewhere, but at any rate he must by all means stop behaving like a sedate, unnerving, perhaps insecure rebel and start working. At least that's how a humble, unwavering fan that started listening to The Smiths 16 years ago thinks.
jawbreaker July 25, 2002, 06:29 AM me to , I listened to The Smiths when the queen is dead came out..
but Morrissey has screwed me to many times.. I am stuck, and lost $558.00.
Morrissey has fucked me again..
Wallace Arnold July 25, 2002, 10:23 AM oh come on, Morrissey can't be held responsible in any way for your air fares and hotel bookings. He knows that he has (had?) a loyal fan base, but wouldn't you think that investing 100's of $ to see a show is a little extreme? If you're willing to go to such excess then you expect to take a risk surely? You know that he has cancelled gigs in the past so it was your gamble. Seems like you lost.
I thought the idea of a tour means that the artist comes to a place near you and that you don't have to travel the world to see him. My advice: sit tight and wait for Morrissey to come to you.
I'm sorry you lost out.
> me to , I listened to The Smiths when the queen is dead came out..
> but Morrissey has screwed me to many times.. I am stuck, and lost $558.00.
> Morrissey has fucked me again..
Johnny July 25, 2002, 12:09 PM > Is anyone really surprised? If you are, I'll warn you from the get-go:
> learn to accept (and perhaps expect) this kind of behaviour.
> Welcome to the world of Morrissey.
> I'd suggest giving him the benefit of the doubt for the next couple days.
> Until some solid info comes up, he's presumed innocent, and even if he
> never issues a formal statement telling us why he had to cancel, I don't
> think he did it because he had some diva fit; something serious (I'd guess
> on the operational and/or financial level) got in the way. BTW, to avoid
> even more heartbreaking, I'd also suggest we all learn to deal with his
> episodes of enigmatic silence and utter unresponsiveness at once.
> Morrissey simply functions on a different wavelength from the rest of
> mankind and it would be pointless to pretend otherwise.
> The main issue was and is the same: Morrissey has to get himself together
> as a music professional. He needs an iron fist manager, he needs a good
> agent, he has to stop attending those stupid noisy gigs like some kind of
> brainless teenager and he has to somehow challenge himself. All he does
> since Maladjusted is to reheat stuff. He has to set deadlines. Goals. All
> that stuff you americans excel at. Now glitzy, superficial LA may not be
> quite the right place to do that. Perhaps he'd be better off in a remote
> log cabin somewhere, but at any rate he must by all means stop behaving
> like a sedate, unnerving, perhaps insecure rebel and start working. At
> least that's how a humble, unwavering fan that started listening to The
> Smiths 16 years ago thinks.
Great points there. Especially about a manger being needed.
Lifeguard Sleeping July 25, 2002, 01:22 PM > Is anyone really surprised? If you are, I'll warn you from the get-go:
> learn to accept (and perhaps expect) this kind of behaviour.
> Welcome to the world of Morrissey.
> I'd also suggest we all learn to deal with his
> episodes of enigmatic silence and utter unresponsiveness at once.
> Morrissey simply functions on a different wavelength from the rest of
> mankind and it would be pointless to pretend otherwise.
> The main issue was and is the same: Morrissey has to get himself together
> as a music professional. He needs an iron fist manager, he needs a good
> agent, he has to stop attending those stupid noisy gigs like some kind of
> brainless teenager and he has to somehow challenge himself. All he does
> since Maladjusted is to reheat stuff. He has to set deadlines. Goals. All
> that stuff you americans excel at.
thats why,
You seem to contradict yourself: you tell us that this is the way the enigmatic Morrissey functions and that we must "accept" it, but then you proceed to list all the different things Morrissey "needs" to do.
Though I agree with all your points (both in defense and in criticizm of Morrissey), the bottom line is he is who he is and I doubt the man will suddenly morph into a by-the-book popstar.
LL. July 25, 2002, 05:37 PM > Is anyone really surprised? If you are, I'll warn you from the get-go:
> learn to accept (and perhaps expect) this kind of behaviour.
> Welcome to the world of Morrissey.
> I'd suggest giving him the benefit of the doubt for the next couple days.
> Until some solid info comes up, he's presumed innocent, and even if he
> never issues a formal statement telling us why he had to cancel, I don't
> think he did it because he had some diva fit; something serious (I'd guess
> on the operational and/or financial level) got in the way. BTW, to avoid
> even more heartbreaking, I'd also suggest we all learn to deal with his
> episodes of enigmatic silence and utter unresponsiveness at once.
> Morrissey simply functions on a different wavelength from the rest of
> mankind and it would be pointless to pretend otherwise.
> The main issue was and is the same: Morrissey has to get himself together
> as a music professional. He needs an iron fist manager, he needs a good
> agent, he has to stop attending those stupid noisy gigs like some kind of
> brainless teenager and he has to somehow challenge himself. All he does
> since Maladjusted is to reheat stuff. He has to set deadlines. Goals. All
> that stuff you americans excel at. Now glitzy, superficial LA may not be
> quite the right place to do that. Perhaps he'd be better off in a remote
> log cabin somewhere, but at any rate he must by all means stop behaving
> like a sedate, unnerving, perhaps insecure rebel and start working. At
> least that's how a humble, unwavering fan that started listening to The
> Smiths 16 years ago thinks.
First of all, I am from California and though parts of LA are "glitzy, superficial," you clearly have not been to the slums below Santa Monica, or the Inglewood area, or to Skid Row where homeless people live. Get real and don't be so judgemental.
Second of all, after having lived in "glitzy and superficial" land, how do you suppose that I, too, am an unwavering fan? Oh, and I forgot (because I do not often tell people in such an asenine tone) that I am also humble.
Would people please stop being so rude and biting here? Sure, cuss all you want, but quit it with the generalizations, thinking you know better or ARE better than anyone else who may visit this space.
It is so disappointing to come here after not being here for over a year and seeing this same stuff going on.
thats why July 25, 2002, 10:40 PM > thats why,
> You seem to contradict yourself: you tell us that this is the way the
> enigmatic Morrissey functions and that we must "accept" it, but
> then you proceed to list all the different things Morrissey
> "needs" to do.
Actually there are two undercurrents at work: one is Morrissey's unpredictable, wilful behaviour; the other is his overall lack of organization as a professional. While I don't expect Morrissey will all of a sudden acquire the robotlike precision of the german train system, I do think he should at least give a little more attention to his supposed job, like he used to. The countless compilations, the absence of a new album and the tour problems all signal a basic failure to deal objectively with daily matters. Rebellion is pretty much part of the by-the-book popstar persona, but sometimes sitting pretty and taking the easy way out is just laziness.
> Though I agree with all your points (both in defense and in criticizm of
> Morrissey), the bottom line is he is who he is and I doubt the man will
> suddenly morph into a by-the-book popstar.
thats why July 25, 2002, 10:53 PM "Ever since,
You don't look the same,
You're just not the same, no way"
His LA years so far are not quite his most productive, and that's a fact.
> First of all, I am from California and though parts of LA are
> "glitzy, superficial," you clearly have not been to the slums
> below Santa Monica, or the Inglewood area, or to Skid Row where homeless
> people live. Get real and don't be so judgemental.
> Second of all, after having lived in "glitzy and superficial"
> land, how do you suppose that I, too, am an unwavering fan? Oh, and I
> forgot (because I do not often tell people in such an asenine tone) that I
> am also humble.
> Would people please stop being so rude and biting here? Sure, cuss all you
> want, but quit it with the generalizations, thinking you know better or
> ARE better than anyone else who may visit this space.
> It is so disappointing to come here after not being here for over a year
> and seeing this same stuff going on.
LL. July 25, 2002, 10:56 PM > Actually there are two undercurrents at work: one is Morrissey's
> unpredictable, wilful behaviour; the other is his overall lack of
> organization as a professional. While I don't expect Morrissey will all of
> a sudden acquire the robotlike precision of the german train system, I do
> think he should at least give a little more attention to his supposed job,
> like he used to. The countless compilations, the absence of a new album
> and the tour problems all signal a basic failure to deal objectively with
> daily matters. Rebellion is pretty much part of the by-the-book popstar
> persona, but sometimes sitting pretty and taking the easy way out is just
> laziness.
Jesus CHRIST! You must be joking!
And if you're not, how sad for you.
LL. July 25, 2002, 10:58 PM > "Ever since,
> You don't look the same,
> You're just not the same, no way"
> His LA years so far are not quite his most productive, and that's a fact.
Yes, I have heard that "fact" many times over by bitter europeans who are saddened that he chose to move somewhere that has helped him in his mellowing age.
Most people can learn to either accept the new Morrissey, or just STOP BUYING THE STUFF THEY DON'T LIKE.
Last I understood, Morrissey was not standing at my back with a pistol telling me I absolutely have to buy the latest album or I would be shot.
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