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jimmy
March 19, 2002, 07:41 AM
So what is to come of Morrissey?

What are the next steps that determine the future of our icon and distant friend who fed us messages and stories that related so much to our lives at each step? Obviously he only knows and will make the choices as he already has done without public opinions. But how will the next 2 decades pan out will be interesting. As we have seen the others popular during the last 20 years they either seem to hold on in some odd fashion or tumble out of public view and unimpressingly blend into the commoners defeating the mystique those of use anticipated would never go away. Jokingly most people would say that he will wind up doing a multi year deal with the Monte Carlo in Vegas. He isn't going to die in a fiery car crash wither so where does that leave us.

I just have an eerie feeling that his albums will become scary to listen to. Albums that you will have to listen to a few times to get really into it, but shelving it a couple of months later until you need to hear just that one song. For him to give up and retire his music would also be a shame though. Would it be writing that he would return to? A medium as to where musical styles and trends of today have no relevance? Our tastes sway based on age and styles we choose to run off on. It is the truth. But by writing his voice can continue with a story as opposed to the struggles of record companies and deals. But I suppose what he would write about could then be an artistic battel in itself. Who knows... only him I suppose.

I just would hate to see the continuation of a "happy to be alive" Bono, "washed up happy to have a job" Boy George, "lets try it again at 50" Perry Farrell, "is that money I hear" Steven Tyler, ... you get the idea. I know they are no where near Morrissey's style, but different sad continuations have come to his era's pop/rock stars.

I suppose who cares and it will turn out just fine... but it will be interesting to see what comes of the person we hope to always provide us with a hope and a smile.

LoafingOaf
March 19, 2002, 10:03 AM
> So what is to come of Morrissey?

I'm hoping the smashing success of The Osbournes on MTV will
lead to a sequel: The Morrissey. I'm sure he's nicer to his cat than
Ozzy is to his dogs!

> I just would hate to see the continuation of a "happy to be
> alive" Bono, "washed up happy to have a job" Boy George,
> "lets try it again at 50" Perry Farrell, "is that money I
> hear" Steven Tyler, ... you get the idea.

Why can't he be like Lou Reed or Bob Dylan and just keep doing his thing
for as long as he feels like it. Hell, Leonard Cohen just released a
pretty good album and he's gotta be about 70-something.

> I suppose who cares and it will turn out just fine... but it will be
> interesting to see what comes of the person we hope to always provide us
> with a hope and a smile.

I hope his next album has something unexepected about it. Something that will show he still can surprise us. At the very least though, my high hopes rest on the fact that his normal output was an album per year, and if you took the best songs off of two or three albums and put them together you'd have
an all-time masterpiece. Now, hopefully with the delay he has been writing the same number of songs, and will put the best songs from what would have been multiple flawed albums into one 10 or 11 track album of perfection and blow the whole world away.

Well, I like to think positively about what may come of this long wait, anyway.

Pussypussycat
March 19, 2002, 10:19 AM
Unfortunately, apart from his output of one album per year, the last couple of years there were: nil.
As much as Morrissey will always be a part of my life, I fear he has other things in his mind than putting out another album. God knows what these are. With 'Best of' albums chucked out at regular intervals, his royalties will ensure him a comfortable lifestyle in sunny LA.
As with Lou Reed and Leonard Cohen who, I understand, have put out albums in less-than-regular intervals, 'Maladjusted' may not have been his last album, but I wouldn't get too excited about anything being released soon.

Why can't we just see him as a brilliant artist and icon of the 80's and early Nineties and turn to our old Smiths records to consolation?

I was fourteen when the Smiths split up and have therefore never seen them live or got into them when they were at their peak, but apart from Morrissey's early solo stuff I think the Smiths songs will become classics, whereas Morrisseys solo efforts will be less memorable.

LoafingOaf
March 19, 2002, 11:19 AM
> Unfortunately, apart from his output of one album per year, the last
> couple of years there were: nil.

But I think lots of artists are kinda waiting out this very low, low period in the music industry. Times are tough for all.

> As much as Morrissey will always be a part of my life, I fear he has other
> things in his mind than putting out another album.

If you take his word for it, he says he has new songs, and he says he is embarking on a world tour.

> God knows what these
> are. With 'Best of' albums chucked out at regular intervals, his royalties
> will ensure him a comfortable lifestyle in sunny LA.
> As with Lou Reed and Leonard Cohen who, I understand, have put out albums
> in less-than-regular intervals, 'Maladjusted' may not have been his last
> album, but I wouldn't get too excited about anything being released soon.

Yeah, Cohen releases an album every ten or so years! But hey, the point still stands that you can make cool music when you're old.

> Why can't we just see him as a brilliant artist and icon of the 80's and
> early Nineties and turn to our old Smiths records to consolation?

Well, I could accept it if it were the end, but I also think he still writes good songs, and there aren't enough of his kind of songwriter out there.

> I was fourteen when the Smiths split up and have therefore never seen them
> live or got into them when they were at their peak, but apart from
> Morrissey's early solo stuff I think the Smiths songs will become
> classics, whereas Morrisseys solo efforts will be less memorable.

You should try and catch him on this next tour!

jimmy
March 19, 2002, 05:13 PM
> You should try and catch him on this next tour!

I did and boy did it feel pretty sad. I left the Hollywood palladium pretty unhappy. From my front row experience back in 91 at the Santa Barbara Bowl then a couple of years ago at the Palladium i had realized my icon was sort of shabby. Not rough around the edges cool but on his way to defeat. All of his usual fans were gone, completely gone.

russ t
March 19, 2002, 05:17 PM
I totally disagree with BG being described as 'washed up'... he's just written the West End's currently most-popular musical (which is being lauded as being the best stage musical in the last 20 years, apparently), he's a massively successful (and rather good) DJ, he released dance records under different monickers (again, pretty good), has his own label, and also still does the odd thing with Culture Club (always a sell-out, too, unfortunately).

Moz? He was finished before, grrr, 'Southpaw Crapper'. And then, of course, came the ill-fated move to L.A. (maaaan).

> So what is to come of Morrissey?

> What are the next steps that determine the future of our icon and distant
> friend who fed us messages and stories that related so much to our lives
> at each step? Obviously he only knows and will make the choices as he
> already has done without public opinions. But how will the next 2 decades
> pan out will be interesting. As we have seen the others popular during the
> last 20 years they either seem to hold on in some odd fashion or tumble
> out of public view and unimpressingly blend into the commoners defeating
> the mystique those of use anticipated would never go away. Jokingly most
> people would say that he will wind up doing a multi year deal with the
> Monte Carlo in Vegas. He isn't going to die in a fiery car crash wither so
> where does that leave us.

> I just have an eerie feeling that his albums will become scary to listen
> to. Albums that you will have to listen to a few times to get really into
> it, but shelving it a couple of months later until you need to hear just
> that one song. For him to give up and retire his music would also be a
> shame though. Would it be writing that he would return to? A medium as to
> where musical styles and trends of today have no relevance? Our tastes
> sway based on age and styles we choose to run off on. It is the truth. But
> by writing his voice can continue with a story as opposed to the struggles
> of record companies and deals. But I suppose what he would write about
> could then be an artistic battel in itself. Who knows... only him I
> suppose.

> I just would hate to see the continuation of a "happy to be
> alive" Bono, "washed up happy to have a job" Boy George,
> "lets try it again at 50" Perry Farrell, "is that money I
> hear" Steven Tyler, ... you get the idea. I know they are no where
> near Morrissey's style, but different sad continuations have come to his
> era's pop/rock stars.

> I suppose who cares and it will turn out just fine... but it will be
> interesting to see what comes of the person we hope to always provide us
> with a hope and a smile.

Lifeguard Sleeping
March 19, 2002, 07:23 PM
> I'm hoping the smashing success of The Osbournes on MTV will
> lead to a sequel: The Morrissey. I'm sure he's nicer to his cat than
> Ozzy is to his dogs!

UGH!!

I've been without cable since August and I've been missing "The Osbournes!" I got to see part of one episode (of course, I thought it was a segment of "Cribs"), and it was hilarious! I mean, what better family to intrude upon than The Osbournes? That is what "Big Brother" could only have HOPED to be.

Finally! A reason to tune in to MTV. I just wish I was able to watch it. I HATE being poor! :*(

jimmy
March 20, 2002, 07:17 AM
exactly!!! boy george is successfully taking a record and putting it on a player now.