The title is enough... I am not gonna say more...

JUST: PLEASE SOMEONE POST THIS LIVE BOOTLEG RECORDING....



thanks for helping...

Soundtrack?

You mean live bootleg recording, isn't it?

Soundtrack is a term to describe music which is added background of films / videos.

My friend sent me an email that her recording of 22nd is quite good, she'll upload it later this week if no one does.

Thanks to Yousef uploading to Dime, it will appear here as they become available (as flac files!):

http://only-morrissey-music.blogspot.com/2009/05/morrissey-apollo-theatre-manchester.html

Thanks to Yousef uploading to Dime, it will appear here as they become available (as flac files!):

http://only-morrissey-music.blogspot.com/2009/05/morrissey-apollo-theatre-manchester.html

It's up, it's in there, it's in flac.
Not sure of the quality. EDIT: Great quality, shame I'm off to work now - first day too, so can't be late! If anyone could possibly help I'd be ever grateful :-D

As it's in the dreaded flac format would someone be kind enough to send me the mp3? While I want to respect the hard work of the recorder I really can't fill my laptop up with flac files...I'd have lovely sounding music but absolutely nothing else....

You may try burning a CD!

You may try burning a CD!

Yeah, I will if I have to - but then I'll burn it back to iTunes as MP3 (CDs are only good for cars, and I've just had to sell mine :nopity: ).

It's just if someone can save me the space and time tonight. I'll do it tonight otherwise, but I'm leaving in about five minutes and won't be back until gone 10pm, so could do without it if possible.
If not, I'll do what I can later.

Don't get me wrong, I'm hugely, hugely grateful for the recorder/uploader etc etc but flac for me, and I'd bet most others, is hugely impractical.

Yeah, I will if I have to - but then I'll burn it back to iTunes as MP3 (CDs are only good for cars, and I've just had to sell mine :nopity: ).


Just download Switch and convert it to any format of your choice, it's a brilliant app!

Thanks for the bootleg anyways!

Just download Switch and convert it to any format of your choice, it's a brilliant app!

Thanks for the bootleg anyways!

Thank you so much for the tip! I'm terrible with technology...:blushing:

Thanks to whoever uploaded the bootleg too, it sounds great. :thumb:

as I am sitting on an university computer where cannot install nice little programmes ...

any chance for a mp3 version of a mancunian gig?
To get over the cancellation blues?

dont suppose anyone has this as one big rar/zip file, instead of the all the individual songs!?
thanks!

dont suppose anyone has this as one big rar/zip file, instead of the all the individual songs!?
thanks!

It's on SmithsTorrents as one file - not mp3 though

GC

i dont use torrents i'm affraid as my web access is limted...dont suppose anyone has a rapidshare/megaupload of the thing?

respect the recorders info which is !
Please do not share in MP3 or other lossy formats. If you don't know why, just ask.
get yourself a bigger hardrive !:mad:

Ok!!! Here You Are in mp3 Format!!! :thumb:

http://rapidshare.com/files/238000575/MozApolloManchesterUK22May2009.rar

Great Sound!!!!! :guitar:

respect the recorders info which is !
Please do not share in MP3 or other lossy formats. If you don't know why, just ask.
get yourself a bigger hardrive !:mad:

Get yourself a more practical outlook.

flac is fine, and people who want it will always have it. MP3 is far more common (and far more sensible).

I've heard all the arguments for flac over MP3 and they all just sound utterly snobbish. My view: thanks for recording, but it's illegal to do it record the show anyway, so any sort of 'ownership' over the files is questionable at best.

Think of the MP3s as the bootleg of the bootleg ;)

Thank you Mozzboy & the original taper/uploader!

Hmm...

The arguments over FLAC are not about snobbery, it's about preserving the quality of the music over time - once a recording has been encoded to MP3 for distribution, you are virtually guaranteeing multiple generations of undocumented MP3>audio>cd>MP3>MP3 etc conversions - each one of which degrades the quality of the sound.

In the days of tape-trading, sharing recordings meant an inevitable degradation in quality with each step. Now we can guarantee that someone 20 years down the line gets to hear exactly what you get to hear in exactly the same quality. Once MP3s start proliferating online, the chances of this being the case get less and less.

You will note that the request on the info file was not that you change your music listening or storage habits, merely that people refrain from sharing the audio in lossy formats.

But if you don't care about preserving the music for others and you don't care to respect the simple request of a person who went to considerable expense, inconvenience, risk and effort to bring you the music, then please boorishly press on. But do not be surprised if the people who actually care about these things (and because they do, tend to produce the best recordings) start putting less and less of them in the public domain.

And, for the record, the 1988 Copyright Act expressly allows UK concert-goers to record performances for personal use. The implications that you draw from your misapprehension over this are disingenuous at best, if not downright obnoxious.

But to everyone enjoying and sharing this recording in the spirit it was offered - cheers!

Get yourself a more practical outlook.

flac is fine, and people who want it will always have it. MP3 is far more common (and far more sensible).

I've heard all the arguments for flac over MP3 and they all just sound utterly snobbish. My view: thanks for recording, but it's illegal to do it record the show anyway, so any sort of 'ownership' over the files is questionable at best.

Think of the MP3s as the bootleg of the bootleg ;)

Ok!!! Here You Are in mp3 Format!!! :thumb:

http://rapidshare.com/files/238000575/MozApolloManchesterUK22May2009.rar

Great Sound!!!!! :guitar:

Thank you so very much for this, mozzboy and the original uploader, Yousef!

If i could I would listen/ share in flac but sadly I cannot.

Thanks for this!!!

Hmm...

[QUOTE=yousef_mcr;1170706]The arguments over FLAC are not about snobbery, it's about preserving the quality of the music over time - once a recording has been encoded to MP3 for distribution, you are virtually guaranteeing multiple generations of undocumented MP3>audio>cd>MP3>MP3 etc conversions - each one of which degrades the quality of the sound.

So the reason people can't listen to a gig they want is because five years time someone else might get a hold of a slightly less-quality version. Do the original flac files get deleted after a while then, and after a certain period people can never access them again? Or is it just a weak argument?

You will note that the request on the info file was not that you change your music listening or storage habits, merely that people refrain from sharing the audio in lossy formats.

That's true, but the person I was replying to in my reply that you quoted did tell me to get a bigger hard-drive - and NOT the original uploader ;)

But if you don't care about preserving the music for others and you don't care to respect the simple request of a person who went to considerable expense, inconvenience, risk and effort to bring you the music, then please boorishly press on. But do not be surprised if the people who actually care about these things (and because they do, tend to produce the best recordings) start putting less and less of them in the public domain.

Fair enough, this is a top quality recording and I'm glad to have it, but if the original recorder had kept it to themselves I'm sure I'd have carried on with my life. I've plenty of gigs I'd like to listen to again, but I don't and I'm sure there are copies out there.
To claim some divine integrity over the work of a band that don't even know you're in the room is slightly odd.

And, for the record, the 1988 Copyright Act expressly allows UK concert-goers to record performances for personal use. The implications that you draw from your misapprehension over this are disingenuous at best, if not downright obnoxious.

Fair enough, I didn't know this and I take you at your word (was thinking in terms of cinema piracy, I guess?). However, would uploading to a website count as 'personal use'? I'm sure if security had noticed they'd have been less understanding?

But to everyone enjoying and sharing this recording in the spirit it was offered - cheers!

I'm very much enjoying this recording, it's marvellous and I thank with all my heart the original uploader. However I'm not concerned with preventing other people enjoying the same things simply because of a few FLAC Evangelicals.

EDIT: Good grief what a rant. How boring.

please please please can some kind soul put this on megaupload...cheers in advance:):):):)

loved the gig...love having the recording...thank you so much....

So the reason people can't listen to a gig they want is because five years time someone else might get a hold of a slightly less-quality version. Do the original flac files get deleted after a while then, and after a certain period people can never access them again? Or is it just a weak argument?



Files get corrupted, hard drives fail. Spreading the original files far and wide is a way of hoping to preserve them. Posting MP3s of the same files is a sure fire way of subverting this.



I'm very much enjoying this recording, it's marvellous and I thank with all my heart the original uploader. However I'm not concerned with preventing other people enjoying the same things simply because of a few FLAC Evangelicals.



No-one is trying to prevent anyone hearing the recording - the request was that the files not be converted for sharing. Send cds of FLACs, MP3s or audio through the post, but please don't post lossy files online where they propogate so easily and threaten the digital preservation of the music.

I know some people have no interest in these matters; for many, music isn't a passion, merely a disposable commodity. And I'm sure many people are so selfish that the idea of preserving the quality they enjoyed for others is of little concern.

Nevertheless, if someone had gone to great effort and expense to bring me a great recording (for free, no less!) I think the very least you can do is try to respect the one very simple request they make.

But then again, there are a lot of very rude people out there.

Thank you so much. You made me very happy! Will listen to it all night long...

Here you go Happy Jack and enjoy!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3KG65WRM

Files get corrupted, hard drives fail. Spreading the original files far and wide is a way of hoping to preserve them. Posting MP3s of the same files is a sure fire way of subverting this.

No-one is trying to prevent anyone hearing the recording - the request was that the files not be converted for sharing. Send cds of FLACs, MP3s or audio through the post, but please don't post lossy files online where they propogate so easily and threaten the digital preservation of the music.

I know some people have no interest in these matters; for many, music isn't a passion, merely a disposable commodity (dw1804: first of all, get off the high horse and stop being so revoltingly snobbish). And I'm sure many people are so selfish that the idea of preserving the quality they enjoyed for others is of little concern.

Nevertheless, if someone had gone to great effort and expense to bring me a great recording (for free, no less!) I think the very least you can do is try to respect the one very simple request they make.

But then again, there are a lot of very rude people out there.

For many others music is a passion, just not one whereby their entire life and enjoyment of it is based on strict ideals that not everyone else has the money nor drive to live by.

You seem to think that bootlegs are as rare as they used to be. They're simply not. In Morrissey's case there is a website where you can get pretty much any available gig, whenever you want in the highest possible quality. Just because I have it in a different format doesn't mean I take anything from YOUR flac file.

I am enjoying it. I'm so very, very glad to have this gig in my collection. I love the action, the audience and the words. The .MP3 extension is not something that is concerning me so far.

I'll stand by my two main points: think of the mp3s as a bootleg of the bootleg it's a copy of someone else's copy of an original, and that the flac files will be around forever, just as an MP3 version a CD version, a AAC version, a handwritten version, a memorised version and a wrong version and as many other formatted versions as you can imagine. If people want it, and they have access to the internet, they'll find it. It's not the dark ages anymore - it's awfully easy.

Thank you very much. :)

You seem to think that bootlegs are as rare as they used to be. They're simply not. In Morrissey's case there is a website where you can get pretty much any available gig, whenever you want in the highest possible quality.
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If people want it, and they have access to the internet, they'll find it. It's not the dark ages anymore - it's awfully easy.

But this isn't always going to be the case: torrents become seederless after a few weeks, maybe months if you're lucky. Rapidshare etc accounts expire or are deleted, websites disappear or even lose their archives.

The best chance of preserving things in their best possible quality is to spread them as far as possible in their highest quality and disseminating a lower quality, quicker-to-download version will always compromise this.

Not everyone cares about this, of course I realize that. If you get what you want, who cares about the bigger picture or if you might be making someone who did you a good turn wonder why they bothered, right?

Thanks very much !

Ok!!! Here You Are in mp3 Format!!! :thumb:

http://rapidshare.com/files/238000575/MozApolloManchesterUK22May2009.rar

Great Sound!!!!! :guitar:


Thanks for this. I am new to this bootleg buisness. What a treat to hear the live shows. :thumb:

Thanks

Thank you Yousef
Thank you Mozzboy
Very much

thank you to tim160 and the person who recorded it for sharing :):):):):):):)

Yousef, many thanks for this great recording, it is truly appreciated, certainly by myself and no doubt many other Morrissey fans. I grabbed it from Dime and flac is fine but unfortunately you are pissing against the wind hoping that it won't get traded in MP3 as there are a lot of very lazy self centred people out there who just want everything quick and easy without having to work for it or respecting the wishes of the people who have gone out on a limb to bring this recording to them.

Once again many thanks for this momento of a great night.

Ta for the kind words, Tilly Flood.

I know it's pissing in the wind for the most part, but if helps just one person understand the need to protect digital recordings, then a tiny bit of good has been done :)

AMAZING !!! Thanks for those who have shared this wonderful souvenir from an excellent night :):thumb::guitar:

thanks for rapidshare mp3 format link ;) thank you im waiting for the man i mean the 23rd :)

cheers, Yousef!

has anyone created a cd cover that they'd like to share? thanks

Wow! what a great recording, thanks so much for this! Does anyone have info on what it was recorded with?

Thanks for sharing this great recording, much appreciated. :thumb:



has anyone created a cd cover that they'd like to share? thanks

Here's one I've just knocked up :

http://rapidshare.com/files/239542313/Morrissey_Manchester_22.05.09_cover.zip

Wow! what a great recording, thanks so much for this! Does anyone have info on what it was recorded with?

Taken from the original NFO file which has probably been omitted from the MP3 download sites and hence another reason to respect the tapers wishes and not to trade MP3 files.


Source: AT-853(c)>Church 9100(3-wire)>Edirol R-09
Transfer: R-09>[usb]>Wavelab>CDWave>FLAC
Taper: Yousef

Great show, great boot. Thanks!

I've been downloading the files one at a time and they're great. Thanks very much for sharing. :)

Great recording! Great sound.

Thank you for sharing!

/Christian, Sweden

:thumb:
Thankyou! Great recording, happy memories

:D

Thank you, all...

Hi again all....Can anybody possibly do me a copy of this onto a playable CD Disc , ??? as I am rubbish at downloads/uploads and all that guff....I can happily trade some Moz DVD stuff in reurn...
Thanks.
It was a great Gig, and I would love to be there again ( ...Aurally, at least....)
Cheers, and thanks ( ...In advance,....)
Dave

Hi again all....Can anybody possibly do me a copy of this onto a playable CD Disc , ??? as I am rubbish at downloads/uploads and all that guff....I can happily trade some Moz DVD stuff in reurn...
Thanks.
It was a great Gig, and I would love to be there again ( ...Aurally, at least....)
Cheers, and thanks ( ...In advance,....)
Dave

Dear pal,
Is that you want to?
http://rapidshare.com/files/238000575/MozApolloManchesterUK22May2009.rar

Have a good listening

Thank you Raphael, but I still cannot get it to work/play.....just waited 30 mins for it to "Download".....but still cannot find it anywhere.....
If you ( or anyone else) could do a copy for me, I would be Very grateful indeed....thanks again,
Dave.

What's wrong with "download"?

Would you like it in cd or by e-mail?

A copy on CD would be Fantastic!!! I cannot get things to "Download", as I am not very good with computer things.....
If you could Kindly provide me with a copy that I can play on CD, I would be extremely grateful, and also send you something on DVD back in return.....
Thank you...
If you do this, Please remember to include a return address!!! Thanx very much again.
Dave,
80 Sandfield Road,
Upton,
Wirral,
UK
CH49 7 LT

Dave that's your email and home address on here now, if No place like Rome sees it he'll have a bank account open in your name within minutes! :D

...Hi !! I figure the chance of getting a copy of the gig on disc is worth any "Risk".....But, It's NOT My REAL Name, and the Banks have been looking for me for ages anyway!!!....besides, I didn't put my P.I.N. Number ( 3652) anywhere on here.....oops!!!

I do understand what you mean though, and thanks for the Security "Tip"!!

Dear Kewpie, or any Moderator, could you PLEASE change my "User name" to "Dave Jay" ASAP, as I cannot seem do it at this end.....Thanx again!! cheers!

Dave that's your email and home address on here now, if No place like Rome sees it he'll have a bank account open in your name within minutes! :D

Hi Dave hope you re well i will again step into the breach here and do you a copy,it ll be in the post monday. Nice to meet you at the gig. Will you be still at the same adress once NPLR ransacks your gaff?

All the best Alan

yousef – thanks both for the upload, and for making me understand a little more about what all this anti-mp3 stuff is about. i had a similar discussion about the same subject on this very forum recently, but you made a far better point.

still no 23rd ?

A copy on CD would be Fantastic!!! I cannot get things to "Download", as I am not very good with computer things.....
If you could Kindly provide me with a copy that I can play on CD, I would be extremely grateful, and also send you something on DVD back in return.....
Thank you...
If you do this, Please remember to include a return address!!! Thanx very much again.
Dave,
80 Sandfield Road,
Upton,
Wirral,
UK
CH49 7 LT

Are you crazy?
Do not post your home adress here.it's dangerous.

Yeah yeah, I know ....it's serious!!!
But, Believe me, I can take on anyone who trys to disturb my slumbers....I am not a an Old granny ( just Yet....though I have my moments....)
And I have a HUGE Chainsaw waiting...And a Vicious L'il Millie- Dawwg!!! ( not forgetting the old "Whackre" Bat that my dad owned...When His shop was attacked....My dad Came out in one piece....the Robbers didn't.....Long Story.....)

Alan....I would be SO grateful for a copy of that!!

(....It also Comemorates the Night that I met ya!!!.... great gig, wasn't it!!!...)
I will now have to find you something to Send back in return......God knows what!!! ...But I will find something.....)
Cheers INDEED!!! Nice One!!!
( ...Address still the same...No Mozzerites are attacking the Old Fort just yet.....)
Thank You SO Much!!!
Next Time we ever meet at a Morrissey Gig, I Deffo owe YOU a drink!!!

No worries Jayboy.

Alan

thanks, ALL for sharing! :)